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is a down-payment normal before due diligence? netto 03/09/04
    I'm looking at a small business and the owner is looking for a 10% down-payment to take it off the market.

    I haven't drawn a letter of intent yet, and during due diligence I may find things to make me walk away.

    Is giving a down-payment like this normal? Do I get it back if I don't go through with the deal?

      Clarification/Follow-up by netto on 03/10/04 5:29 am:
      I'm kinda confused kkemper, let me see if I got it right.

      No money down anywhere until due dilligence is done?

      I thought it went like this:

      1. letter of intent
      2. due dilligence
      3. purchase contract
      4. closing where money and ownership changes hands

      Where in these 4 steps does the down-payment fit in?

      And with the 72 hours with right of refusal...do you mean that he keeps it on the market, I start due dilligence, and if he gets another offer from another buyer before I'm done with due dilligence that he'll give me 72 hours to finish and accept or decline the deal????

      If so, where does that 72 hour window get specified...in the letter of intent?

      How long does due dilligence take? I'm guessing my lawyer and/or accountant has to:

      1. check that sales tax payments are current
      2. payroll tax payments are current
      3. there is no outstanding litigation
      4. that the seller is authorized to sell the business
      5. the assumability of the lease
      6. see if there are any outstanding agreements or contracts with suppliers, etc.

      Anything else?

      I've read several books on buying a business, but they don't seem to answer my questions.

      Thanks so much for your help.

      Clarification/Follow-up by netto on 03/10/04 8:44 am:
      Test my sincerity?...doesn't my paying an attorney to draw up the letter of intent do that though?

      Fee for looking into company information? This guys doesn't even have a tax return. He bought the biz in 2/03 or 3/03, and his mother-in-law can no longer work it. He said he's not filing income tax unitl August (didn't know that was doable).

      All he's going to show me is the supposed numbers he's goign to give his accountant. That doesn't mean much of anything to me.

      As far as finding out if his sales tax and payroll taxes are up to date, does he get something from the state to prove that to me?...or do I pay to dig that out?

      So many other people said this isn't normal, including a couple of attorneys from free law advice sites.

      Do you think I should tell him what my all-cash offer will be to see if he'd accept it before having the attorney write the letter of intent?

      Thanks Leo.

      Clarification/Follow-up by LEOLINGHAM on 03/12/04 6:01 am:
      As I mentioned , each case is different .

      Each case should be negotiable on handling
      the subject.

      In your case, if you feel unconformtable
      with so much of uncertainties/ lack of information

      then offer through your legal counsel

      -letter of confidentiality

      -your offer under conditions

      -no down payment.

      There is a good chance, the person
      may turn around.

      My previous comments were based on my
      experience --2 cases in the last 3 years-
      where I was involved personally as a member of a team.

      In both cases, the purchasing price around

      45 mill US dollars was involved. The
      buyer paid a token deposit before the
      due diligence.

      Each case is different.

      regards

      LEO LINGHAM

 
Summary of Answers Received Answered On Answered By Average Rating
1. It's like buying a first option. If you don't exercise...
03/09/04 BraddExcellent or Above Average Answer
2. The use of a down payment or "earnest money" is a way ...
03/09/04 voiceguy2000Excellent or Above Average Answer
3. my esteemed colleagues and I disagree. an EARNEST money dep...
03/10/04 kkemperAverage Answer
4. there are 3 funds given in most transactions; earnest money...
03/10/04 kkemperExcellent or Above Average Answer
5. DOWN PAYMENT Down Payment is now normal before the due dil...
03/10/04 LEOLINGHAMExcellent or Above Average Answer
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