Clarification/Follow-up by tomder55 on 08/15/03 9:03 am:
re Hillary . I know a run this time is a remote chance ,but she may consider it . If a Democrat should somehow win in 04 ,her first chance will be in 2012 to enter . But if she runs now ,even if she gets clobbered ,she can still go for it in 08 ,and maybe the public will be more willing to accept her .

I know alot of people can't stand her ,she is very polorizing .Still;she is very popular . Her book is selling well ,and in N.Y. at least she will win re:election easily in 06 for the Senate if she chooses to run again .

Clarification/Follow-up by tomder55 on 08/15/03 12:03 pm:
correction : I said :"The only successful Democrats since 1960 have been former Southern Govenors ". this is not correct ;Lyndon Johnson who became President after the Asassination of Kennedy won a landslide election in 1964. Prior to serving as Vice President ,he was a Congressman from Texas . The Democrat Presidents since Johnson ;Carter ,and Clinton were both Govenors of Southern States .