Clarification/Follow-up by revdauphinee on 12/02/05 6:34 pm:
many will not gather in your house, to honor and worship you,!!!
Not nececary!!!
(Matt.6:
5. "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 6. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. )

Clarification/Follow-up by ATON2 on 12/03/05 9:04 am:
Fred:
If you are going to try and correct Liz, you should, at least, know what you are talking about"

Jesus date of birth is simply unknown!!!

"The custom of celebrating Dec. 25th as the birth date of Jesus (i.e. Christmas) did not arise until the third or fourth century. Prior to that time, there are reports of various Christian communities who celebrated Christmas once a year on every month of the calendar, and it was January 6th that was the biggest competitor to Dec. 25th. For the Orthodox Church, January 6th continues to be observed even though most societies today embrace Dec. 25th.
Nevertheless, the significance seen in choosing this time period is symbolic. Why? Because there is symbolism found in the Winter Solstice that marks the end of darkening days and beginning of lengthening light: a sign of renewal. Naturally we would expect to find this type of symbolism in other Ancient religions. For those associated with the Mystery religion of Mithra, this day meant the 'Day of the Invincible Sun' (Dies Solis Invicti); for other religions, it was Saturnalia (Dec 17-24) and BRUMALIA (Dec. 25) which marked the 'birthday of the unconquered Sun'. "

(From "In The World" Ministries) Just so you won't be able to complain about an 'illegitimate' source :) :) :)

Clarification/Follow-up by Liz22 on 12/03/05 9:44 am:
For the customs of the peoples are vanity; for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman with the axe.

Jer 10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

Customs A practice followed by people of a particular group or region. One such word could be Christmas, of every Christmas I have never heard the word of Christ in people's homes, only give me, give-give and give

Clarification/Follow-up by ATON2 on 12/04/05 2:28 pm:
Bucker:
MY God, at the moment of my creation, instilled in me the impulse toward charity that is unconditional. She knew that the example of a 'cheerful' giver would work more wonders than any individual suspension of the natural order would, or could. After all, we have the example of Jesus purported miracles...they convinced but a handful of the thousands who, reportedly, saw and experienced them.

This impulse toward charity is part of our natures...but it is perverted when we attach conditions to it. When I give to a homeless person, or an organized charity, my obligation is finished. I have not the right to Proselytize helpless people, and I have no right to tell them what to do with a freely given gift. I have no right to judge their condition..I have to right to assume they have brought about their own condition. I have only the obligation to give freely.
And I like it that way :) :) :)