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Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for apes? Itsdb 05/18/07
    I posted this on that other board.

    This opinion column appeared in my paper...

    By JONATHAN BALCOMBE
    Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine

      It's a civil rights case with a twist. In late April, an Austrian judge denied personhood status (Registration required) and legal guardianship for 26-year-old Matthias Pan, who was kidnapped as an infant in Sierra Leone after his mother was shot. Brought to Austria illegally, Pan was sold to a research laboratory where he lived alone in a cage and was experimented on for many years before finally being released to a sanctuary.

      In her concluding statement, the judge explained that she never doubted that Pan should be considered a person, but she did not want to set a precedent that might weaken the case of humans with legal guardians. Pan's legal team will appeal the decision.

      Matthias Pan is, of course, not human. He is a chimpanzee.

      Although many of us might share the judge's view that chimps should qualify for personhood, current legal systems in the United States, Austria and most other countries do not. As a biologist and animal behavior expert, I believe it is time for the U.S. legal system to address this serious ethical issue.

      Like all nonhuman animals, chimps qualify as nothing more than property. It is perfectly legal to chain a chimp to a stake or put her in a 5-cubic-foot cage and inject her with hepatitis or HIV.

      That it's legal doesn't make it ethical. The sort of thinking that established this injustice is that we're smarter than them. But is "bright-makes-right" any basis for a sound moral system?

      You may be surprised to learn that we are not as highly evolved as chimpanzees. A recent analysis of 14,000 genes found that 233 chimp genes, compared with only 154 human ones, have been changed by natural selection since we shared a common ancestor.

      Despite popular assumptions, we are not always smarter.
      In a test of spatial memory, the numbers one to nine flash in a randomly scattered array across a computer screen for just one second before being replaced by white squares. A human observer is unlikely to recall the locations of more than two numbers in sequence. A chimpanzee will almost always successfully point to the former locations of all nine digits in the correct sequence. The dynamics of chimp society require keen awareness of where other group members are, which probably accounts for their exceptional skill on such tests.

      Chimpanzees were thought to have poor face recognition until someone had the bright idea of testing them on chimp faces instead of humans. They recognize chimp faces at least as well as we recognize human faces.

      Discoveries like this expose the prejudices that regard chimps as mere shadows of humans. But does it even matter how smart they are? After all, we don't deny basic rights and privileges to people of lower intellect.

      Surely what matters is what an individual feels. It is apparent that chimps experience life essentially as we do. They are highly aware, and chimp expert Frans de Waal asserts that they are as socially sophisticated as humans.


      They imitate, nurture, deceive, sympathize and plan. They have a broad emotional range spanning from jubilation to grief. Their cultures include different forms of tool manufacture and use, self-medication and bartering.

      So should they be granted rights? Governments are beginning to say "yes." In 1999, New Zealand banned the use of great apes in harmful experiments. And this year, the Balearic Parliament of Spain approved a resolution to grant legal rights to great apes.

      Meanwhile, Matthias Pan awaits his fate, as do 1,300 chimpanzees languishing in U.S. laboratories and an unknown number in squalid carnivals and roadside zoos. The day that they are free will be a great one for all apes -- and a step forward for humanity.


    OK, (holding back the laughter) I love animals, but come on, do supposedly educated people actually believe this nonsense?

    What does that 2 percent gene difference amount to?

    Does a chimp's memory skills in matching numbers mean "we are not always smarter?"

    What relevance does "recognizing an upside-down face" have in this debate?

    Do chimps "experience life essentially as we do," or are there significant differences?

    Are chimps "as socially sophisticated as humans?"

    What exactly is significant about " 233 chimp genes, compared with only 154 human ones, have been changed by natural selection since we shared a common ancestor?"

    If chimps are "more highly evolved" why aren't they now humans? What's the matter, some of them didn't want to come along? I will agree that some humans are obviously not as highly evolved as or smarter than chimps. Balcombe seems to be a perfect example of that.

    Comments? Answers to my questions?

      Clarification/Follow-up by tomder55 on 05/18/07 4:18 pm:
      I'd be interested to see what type of replies you would get on the Philosophy board.

      Clarification/Follow-up by Itsdb on 05/18/07 4:23 pm:
      Say no more...

      Clarification/Follow-up by tomder55 on 05/18/07 5:35 pm:
      Your right ,any of the herding dogs are very intelligent. Unfortunately there are no sheep for my dog to herd so he gets his exercise on my hikes .Do you put your dogs to work ?

      Clarification/Follow-up by Itsdb on 05/18/07 6:11 pm:
      Well, the only thing they have to herd is me and each other. However, Skyler fetches the paper every morning, Molly is the guardian (she even closes the bathroom door to make sure no one else gets in there with my wife - figured that out on her own), Blue 'helps' me take out the trash (and then herds me back to the house nipping playfully at my heels) and he also herds the other two for me when it's time to come inside. But that's about all the 'work' they get :)

 
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