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05/18/07 |
WASHINGTON - In a striking reach across party lines, the White House and key lawmakers agreed Thursday on a sweeping immigration plan to grant legal status to millions of people in the country unlawfully.
Sealed after months of secretive bargaining, the deal mandates bolstered border security and a high-tech employment verification system to prevent illegal workers from getting jobs.
President Bush said the proposal would "help enforce our borders but equally importantly, it'll treat people with respect."
The compromise brought together an unlikely alliance of liberal Democrats such as Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts and conservative Republicans such as Sen. Jon Kyl (news, bio, voting record) of Arizona on an issue that carries heavy potential risks and rewards for all involved.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (news, bio, voting record), D-Nev., said debate would begin on Monday, but he cautioned, "I don't know if the immigration legislation is going to bear fruit and we're going to be able to pass it."
Almost instantly, the plan brought vehement criticism from both sides of the immigration issue, including liberals who called it unfair and unworkable and conservatives who branded it an overly permissive "amnesty."
The proposal constitutes a far-reaching change in the immigration system that would admit future arrivals seeking to put down roots in the U.S. based on their skills, education levels and job experience, limiting the importance of family ties. A new class of guest workers would be allowed in temporarily, but only after the new security measures were in place — expected to take 18 months.
"This is a bill where people who live here in our country will be treated without amnesty but without animosity," Bush said.
Kennedy hailed it as "the best possible chance we will have in years to secure our borders and bring millions of people out of the shadows and into the sunshine of America."
Kyl said the measure wasn't perfect, "but it represents the best opportunity that we have in a bipartisan way to do something about this problem."
It was clear, however, that many Republicans and Democrats were deeply skeptical. Reid said it needed improvement.
"I have serious concerns about some aspects of this proposal, including the structure of the temporary worker program and undue limitations on family immigration," Reid said.
Conservatives on both sides of the Capitol derided the deal as "amnesty" for illegal immigrants, using a politically charged word that figured prominently in campaigns across the country last year.
"I don't care how you try to spin it, this is amnesty," said Sen. Jim DeMint (news, bio, voting record), R-S.C.
The proposed agreement would allow illegal immigrants to come forward and obtain a "Z visa" and — after paying fees and a $5,000 fine — ultimately get on track for permanent residency, which could take between eight and 13 years. Heads of households would have to return to their home countries first.
They could come forward right away to claim a probationary card that would let them live and work legally in the U.S., but could not begin the path to permanent residency or citizenship until border security improvements and the high-tech worker identification program were completed.
A new crop of low-skilled guest workers would have to return home after stints of two years. They could renew their visas twice, but would be required to leave for a year in between each time. If they wanted to stay in the U.S. permanently, they would have to apply under the point system for a limited pool of green cards.
The program drew fire from liberal groups that said it was unworkable. They had joined Democrats in pressing instead for guest workers to be permitted to stay and work indefinitely in the U.S., and ultimately earn the chance to stay.
"Without a clear path to permanent residence for a healthy share of the future temporary workers, we run the risk of reproducing the widespread illegality that this bill is designed to address," said Frank Sharry, the executive director of the National Immigration Forum.
Sen. Byron Dorgan (news, bio, voting record), D-N.D., said he would try to kill the temporary worker program because it would bring in a potentially unlimited stream of immigrants to compete with Americans for jobs and depress wages.
In perhaps the most hotly debated change, the proposed plan would shift from an immigration system primarily weighted toward family ties toward one with preferences for people with advanced degrees and sophisticated skills. Republicans have long sought such revisions, which they say are needed to end "chain migration" that harms the economy.
Family connections alone would no longer be enough to qualify for a green card — except for spouses and minor children of U.S. citizens. Strict new limits would apply to U.S. citizens seeking to bring foreign-born parents into the country.
The issue quickly became a subject of debate among presidential candidates in both parties, exposing divisions among Republicans.
Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record), R-Ariz., who led the charge last year to push through an immigration overhaul, called the deal "the first step" and urged moving it forward before the politics of 2008 made such action impossible.
"We all know that this issue can be caught up in extracurricular politics unless we move forward as quickly as possible," said McCain.
Mitt Romney, another Republican presidential hopeful, issued a statement calling the plan "the wrong approach," saying it conferred "a form of amnesty" on illegal immigrants. "That is unfair to the millions of people who have applied to legally immigrate to the U.S.," the former Massachusetts governor said.
Former Republican Sen. Fred Thompson of Tennessee, who is weighing a presidential bid, said the measure should be scrapped in favor of one that secures the border.
"With this bill, the American people are going to think they are being sold the same bill of goods as before on border security," Thompson said in a statement.
Democratic Sen. Barack Obama (news, bio, voting record) of Illinois said the compromise needs work.
"Without modifications, the proposed bill could devalue the importance of family reunification, replace the current group of undocumented immigrants with a new undocumented population consisting of guest workers who will overstay their visas, and potentially drive down wages of American workers," Obama said in a statement
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Clarification/Follow-up by tomder55 on 05/18/07 12:24 pm:
They say they want to allow something like 4,000 illegals to be allowed to enter per year after they go thru with this.
if I'm correct ,I believe the figure is more like 1.5 million . Clarification/Follow-up by tropicalstorm on 05/18/07 12:26 pm:
maybe
I am not good with numbers but I thought I heard a 4 in there.
Clarification/Follow-up by tomder55 on 05/18/07 1:19 pm:
anyway ; On a leaky boat what should a sailor do first .... bail the water out or plug the leak ? Actually ...now that I think of it ,that really doesn't apply because the gvt. has no intention of bailing out the boat . Looks like we just sink. Clarification/Follow-up by tropicalstorm on 05/18/07 1:23 pm:
exactly!
I wonder what they are REALLY going to do with that money they have to build the wall??
Clarification/Follow-up by Dark_Crow on 05/18/07 1:35 pm:
Am I reading that right, Tom….5 thousand x1.5 million= a lot Clarification/Follow-up by tropicalstorm on 05/18/07 1:38 pm:
and they say who knows how many between now and when they go through with all this.
The illegal immigrants aren't going to quit flooding in between now and then.
Clarification/Follow-up by tomder55 on 05/18/07 2:00 pm:
I read the information wrong .There are alot of numbers being thrown around. The bill would increase the annual green card limit from 140,000 to 650,000 ;and visas in the family preference category from the current 226,000 to 480,000 .Up to 1.5 million illegal farm-workers could obtain legal status through an "AgJobs" measure .AgJobs would be a five year pilot program that would grant legal status to those would have worked in US farms for at least 150 days in the last two years.
Clarification/Follow-up by tomder55 on 05/18/07 2:26 pm:
Check out this line of questioning from the White House Press conference :
Q If you're a law-abiding illegal worker in this country, you pay $1,000 and work here for eight more years --
SECRETARY CHERTOFF: Correct. And you actually could work further than that. You don't have to get a green card.
SECRETARY GUTIERREZ: Did you say law-abiding legal?
Q Illegal.
Q Because we're not --
Q Law-abiding illegal -- law-abiding --
SECRETARY GUTIERREZ: They will be legal.
Q It starts to sound like amnesty, is what I'm getting at. It's an eight-year, nine-year amnesty program. And then at the end of that, you've got to go, assuming you can find them at the workplace. Is that how it works?
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