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Aztlan	ETWolverine	05/05/06
With all that we have been hearing about illegal immigrants demanding their rights, the mainstream meadia has been largely ignoring the "Aztlan" crowd... the Mexican-rights groups that demand the return of Mexican lands to Mexico, lands such as Texas, California, Nevada, and Utah, and parts of Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, and Wyoming. They too have had a very large presence in the various demonstrations, with slogans like "Mexico to the Mexicans" and "Get off Our Land", and other stuff. I suggest that we put this out to the Aztlan crowd: we'll give back all the lands ceeded to the US by the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo in exactly the same condition that it was when we took it. We'll take every structure, every piece of machinery, every company, every hospital, every school, every job, with us when we leave. We will leave you with exactly what you had when you lost the war... an empty desert. What say you? How excited are you to get a barren wasteland that you will have to build from scratch in order to get the least little income from? When you take that empty piece of land that is more burden than asset, will you then recognize that it was American ingenuity and sweat and determination that built everything that has ever existed there since 1848? Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it. I am sick of people demanding that America give up what it has worked for and earned to those who have not. American know-how built this country, made it the richest and most free country in the world for those who obey its laws. That know-how and determination has made many other countries richer as well, and provided goods and services thoughout the world. I am sick of people who have benefited from our generosity and ability putting us down as "imperialist pigs" or "usurpers" or any other thing. Sorry for the rant. I just needed to vent. Comments are appreciated. Elliot
Clarification/Follow-up by tomder55 on 05/05/06 3:42 pm: btw : Happy Cinco de Mayo !!! The day in 1862 when the Mexicans defeated (who else) the French during the Battle of Puebla . Clarification/Follow-up by ETWolverine on 05/05/06 4:13 pm: Boy, the French can't even win against the Mexicans. Is there anyone they can win against without US help? Well, at least they look cool in their berets... Bwahahahahahahahaha. Sorry, I just couldn't keep a straight face while saying that. Elliot Clarification/Follow-up by Itsdb on 05/05/06 4:56 pm: See if you can keep a straight face after seeing this French military workout pic... Clarification/Follow-up by tomder55 on 05/05/06 5:15 pm: Hey you two, we've put a lot of time and money in landscaping this place the way I hear it ,the Mexicans are doing all the landscaping . you know.....jobs Amercans won't do ...... gotta go now and fire up the lawn mower ;it's gonna rain this weekend . Clarification/Follow-up by Itsdb on 05/05/06 5:28 pm: the way I hear it ,the Mexicans are doing all the landscaping Maybe in my neighborhood...you know, at their own homes...where they live. I guarandoubledamtee you if they are doing the landscaping they're making mucho dinero for it - just like everyone else is in that racket. Clarification/Follow-up by ETWolverine on 05/05/06 6:18 pm: My parents pay an Italian-American guy to do their landscaping. I do my own yard work (and I'm going to be doing it this weekend... ^&@#$%), not some illegal immigrant. And I've got a lot of frontage too. My father-in-law in Houston does his own yard work too. So does my brother-in-law. In fact, everyone that I know in Houston pretty much does their own... that's just the type of neighborhood they're in. Where in the hell did people get the idea that there are certain jobs Americans won't do? Make it worth our while, and we'll do any job, no matter how big or how small, how menial or how grandios. And that picture up top is hillarious, Tom. Where'd you get it? Elliot Clarification/Follow-up by tomder55 on 05/05/06 6:33 pm:* Steve found it . He also found the link where McCain said we would not pick lettuce for $50/hr. Hell I won't !!! ;in my time I scrubbed pots and pans for alot less than that . I worked in injection molding plants in the summer and on road crews for less than that .

Summary of Answers Received	Answered On	Answered By	Average Rating
1. Good sentiments, but I'm not leaving. If they want what ...	05/05/06	kindj
2. Samuel P. Huntington, chairman of Harvard University's Ac...	05/05/06	tomder55
3. Elliot, If the "Aztlan" crowd wants "their" la...	05/05/06	Itsdb
4. There are riches in Mexico as it is today. But their form o...	05/06/06	drgade
5. I have undertaken several major home projects in the past fe...	05/06/06	captainoutrageous
6. Elliott I understand your sentiments. We have the same prob...	05/06/06	paraclete

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