Clarification/Follow-up by ETWolverine on 11/10/05 12:21 pm:
Excon,

Yeah. It's kinda like "I didn't have any WMDs, but wanted the world to think that I had them, even though I would never use them, and I obeyed the UN resolutions, but I couldn't tell anybody because I didn't want them to know I didn't have them, even though I was trying to get them."

Fear is a tool, excon. Saddam understood that. So do our intelligence and military types. And so do Bush and Cheney. YOU don't, though.

Elliot

Clarification/Follow-up by kindj on 11/10/05 2:20 pm:
Ex,

Just so you know (as I figure you already do), I wasn't making fun of you. I just sometimes have a lot of fun with typos.

DK

Clarification/Follow-up by Nocturne on 11/12/05 1:12 am:
Tomder said, "what other bill of rights provisions do you want to endow terrorists with ?"

As an example, David Hicks, the Austaralian, is to to become one of the first Guantanamo detainees to face military trial. There is no doubt he spent time in al-Qaeda or Taliban training camps. But did he, and others as charged by the Americans, conspire with Osama bin Laden to commit terrorism, aid enemy forces in Afghanistan and try to kill coalition soldiers?

The use of a conspiracy charge, and that seems to be something that’s commonly used in these cases, is baffling, because there is no such charge in International Law. The the conspiracy charge levelled by the U.S., is odd in that there’s no such charge as that in US domestic law. I challenge you to identify one thing that’s been done by David Hicks that was aimed at the United States. And since there are no such issues they have to create this conspiracy, a global conspiracy, to give them the right to even charge these people with a crime.

Certainly we don’t want more terrorist attacks and there are plenty of laws in place for people who plan to commit crimes around the world, that’s not the problem here. The problem is that the Bush administration doesn’t recognise that what they’re doing is making the world a far more dangerous place. When you behave as a hypocrite, as they have in Guantanamo Bay by pretending to stand up for the rule of law and then dissolving it, what you do is create hatred around the world. A firm adherence to human rights is by far the best counter-terrorism I think you will come across.