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ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT: HANK1 10/21/05

    Major General Dr. Vernon Chong, USAF, Ret. wrote this:

    "Our World problem"

    "To get out of a difficulty, one usually must go through it. Our country
    is now facing the most serious threat to its existence, as we know it,
    that we have faced in your lifetime and mine (which includes WWII! ).

    The deadly seriousness is greatly compounded by the fact that there
    are very few of us who think we can possibly lose this war and even fewer
    who realize what losing really means.

    First, let's examine a few basics:

    1. When did the threat to us start?

    Many will say September 11th, 2001. The answer as far as the United
    States is concerned is 1979, 22 years prior to September 2001, with the
    following attacks on us:
    Iran Embassy Hostages, 1979;
    Beirut, Lebanon Embassy 1983;
    Beirut, Lebanon Marine Barracks 1983;
    Lockerbie, Scotland Pan-Am flight to New York 1988;
    Dhahran, Saudi Arabia Kh! obar Towers Military complex 1996;
    Nairobi, Kenya US Embassy 19 98;
    Dares Salaam, Tanzania US Embassy 1998;
    Pentagon 2001.

    (Note that during the period from 1981 to 2001 there were 7,581
    terrorist attacks worldwide).

    2. Why were we attacked?

    Envy of our position, our success, and our freedoms. The attacks
    happened during the administrations of Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton
    and Bush 2. We cannot fault either the Republicans or Democrats as there
    were no provocations by any of the presidents or their immediate predecessors,
    Presidents Ford or Carter.

    3. Who were the attackers?

    In each case, the attacks on the US were carried out by Muslims.

    4. What is the Muslim population of the World? 25%

    5. Isn't the Muslim Religion peaceful?

    Hopefully, but that is really not material. There is no doubt that the
    predominately Christian population of Germany was peaceful, but under
    the dictatorial leadership of Hitler (who was also Christian), that made no
    difference. You either went along with the administration or you were
    eliminated. There were 5 to 6 million Christians killed by the Nazis for
    political reasons (including 7,000 Polish priests). (see
    http://www.nazis.testimony.co.uk/7-ahtm).

    Thus, almost the same number of Christians were killed by the Nazis
    as the 6 million holocaust Jews who were killed by them, and we seldom
    heard of anything other than the Jewish atrocities. Although Hitler kept the
    world focused on the Jews, he had no hesitancy about killing anyone who got in
    his way of exterminating the Jews or of taking over the world - German,
    Christian or any others.

    Same with the Muslim terrorists. They focus the world on the US, but kill
    all in the way -- their own people or the Spanish, French or anyone else.
    The point here is: that just like the peaceful Germans were of no
    protection to anyone from the Nazis, no matter how many peaceful Muslims
    there may be, they are no protection from the terrorist Muslim leaders and
    what they are fanatically bent on doing -- by their own pronouncements--
    killing all of us "infidels." I don't blame the peaceful Muslims. What
    would you do if the choice was shut up or die?

    6. So who are we at war with?

    There is no way we can honestly respond that it is anyone other than
    the Muslim terrorists. Trying to be politically correct and avoid
    verbalizing this conclusion can well be fatal. There is no way to win if you don't
    clearly recognize and articulate who you are fighting.

    So with that background, now to the two major questions:

    1. Can we lose this war?

    2. What does losing really mean?

    If we are to win, we must clearly answer these two pivotal questions.

    We can definitely lose this war, and as anomalous as it may sound,
    the major reason we can lose is that so many of us simply do not fathom the
    answer to the second question: What does losing mean?

    It would appear that a great many of us think that losing the war means
    hanging our heads, bringing the troops home and going on about our
    business, like post Vietnam. This is as far from the truth as one can get. What
    losing really means is:

    We would no longer be the premier country in the world. The attacks will
    not subside, but rather will steadily increase. Remember, they want us
    dead, not just quiet. If they had just wanted us quiet, they would not have
    produced an increasing series of attacks against us over the past 18 years.
    The plan was clearly for terrorists to attack us, until we were neutered
    and submissive to them.

    We would of course have no future support from other nations, for fear of
    reprisals and for the reason that they would see that we are impotent,
    and cannot help them.

    They will pick off the other non-Muslim nations, one at a time. It will
    be increasingly easier for them. They already hold Spain hostage. It
    doesn't matter whether it was right or wrong for Spain to withdraw its troops
    from Iraq. Spain did it because the Muslim terrorists bombed their train and
    told them to withdraw the troops. Anything else they want Spain to do will be
    done. Spain is finished.

    The next will probably be France. Our one hope on France is that they
    might see the light and realize that if we don't win, they are finished too,
    in that they can't resist the Muslim terrorists without us. However, it may
    already be too late for France. France is already 20% Muslim and fading
    fast!

    If we lose the war, our production, income, exports and way of life will
    all vanish as we know it. After losing, who would trade or deal with us,
    if they were threatened by the Muslims.

    If we can't stop the Muslims, how could anyone else?

    The Muslims fully know what is riding on this war, and therefore are
    completely committed to winning, at any cost.

    We'd better know it too, and be likewise committed to winning at any
    cost.

    Why do I go on at such lengths about the results of losing? Simple. Until
    we recognize the costs of losing, we cannot unite and really put 100% of
    our thoughts and efforts into winning. And it is going to take that 100%
    effort to win.

    So, how can we lose the war?

    Again, the answer is simple. We can lose the war by "imploding." That
    is, defeating ourselves by refusing to recognize the enemy and their
    purpose, and really digging in and lending full support to the war effort. If we
    are united, there is no way that we can lose. If we continue to be divided,
    there is no way that we can win!

    Let me give you a few examples of how we simply don't comprehend the
    life and death seriousness of this situation.

    President Bush selects Norman Mineta as Secretary of Transportation.

    Although all of the terrorist attacks were committed by Muslim men
    between 17 and 40 years of age, Secretary Mineta refuses to allow
    profiling. Does that sound like we are taking this thing seriously? This is war!
    For the duration, we are going to have to give up some of the civil rights
    we have become accustomed to. We had better be prepared to lose some of our
    civil rights temporarily, or we will most certainly lose all of them permanently.

    And don't worry that it is a slippery slope. We gave up plenty of civil
    rights during WWII, and immediately restored them after the victory and
    in fact added many more since then.

    Do I blame President Bush or President Clinton before him?

    No, I blame us for blithely assuming we can maintain all of our Political
    Correctness, and all of our civil rights during this conflict and have a
    clean, lawful, honorable war. None of those words apply to war. Get them
    out of your head.

    Some have gone so far in their criticism of the war and/or the
    Administration that it almost seems they would literally like to see us
    lose. I hasten to add that this isn't because they are disloyal. It is
    because they just don't recognize what losing means. Nevertheless, that
    conduct gives the impression to the enemy that we are divided and
    weakening. It concerns our friends, and it does great damage to our cause.

    Of more recent vintage, the uproar fueled by the politicians and media
    regarding the treatment of some prisoners of war, perhaps exemplifies
    best what I am saying.

    We have recently had an issue, involving the treatment of a few
    Muslim prisoners of war, by a small group of our military police.

    These are the type of prisoners who just a few months ago were
    throwing their own people off buildings, cutting off their hands, cutting out
    their tongues and otherwise murdering their own people just for disagreeing
    with Saddam Hussein.

    And just a few years ago these same type of prisoners chemically killed
    400,000 of their own people for the same reason. They are also the same
    type of enemy fighters who recently were burning Americans, and dragging
    their charred corpses through the streets of Iraq.

    And still more recently, the same type of enemy that was and is providing
    videos to all news sources internationally, showing the beheading of
    American prisoners that they held.

    Compare this with some of our press and politicians, who for several days
    have thought and talked about nothing else but the "humiliating" of some
    Muslim prisoners -- not burning them, not dragging their charred corpses
    through the streets, not beheading them, but "humiliating" them.

    Can this be for real?

    The politicians and pundits have even talked of impeachment of the
    Secretary of Defense.

    If this doesn't show the complete lack of comprehension and understanding
    of the seriousness of the enemy we are fighting, the life and death
    struggle we are in and the disastrous results of losing this war, nothing can.

    To bring our country to a virtual political standstill over this prisoner
    issue makes us look like Nero playing his fiddle as Rome burned --
    totally oblivious to what is going on in the real world.

    Neither we, nor any other country, can survive this internal strife.

    Again I say, this does not mean that some of our politicians or media
    people are disloyal It simply means that they are absolutely oblivious
    to the magnitude of the situation we are in, and into which the Muslim
    terrorists have been pushing us, for many years.

    Remember, the Muslim terrorists' stated goal is to kill all infidels!

    That translates into all non-Muslims -- not just in the United
    States, but throughout the world.

    We are the last bastion of defense.

    We have been criticized for many years as being 'arrogant.' That
    charge is valid in at least one respect. We are arrogant in that we believe
    that we are so good, powerful and smart, that we can win the hearts and minds of
    all those who attack us, and that with both hands tied behind our back, we
    can defeat anything bad in the world!

    We can't!

    If we don't recognize this, our nation as we know it will not survive,
    and no other free country in the World will survive if we are defeated.

    And finally, name any Muslim countries throughout the world that
    allow freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of religion, freedom of
    the press, equal rights for anyone (let alone everyone), equal status or any
    status for women---or that have been productive in one single way that
    contributes to the good of the world.

    This has been a long way of saying that we must be united on this war
    or we will be equated in the history books to the self-inflicted fall of
    the Roman Empire. If, that is, the Muslim leaders will allow history books
    to be written or read.

    If we don't win this war right now, keep a close eye on how the
    Muslims take over France in the next 5 years or less. They will continue to
    increase the Muslim population of France and continue to encroach little by
    little on the established French traditions. The French will be fighting among
    themselves over what should or should not be done, which will continue
    to weaken them and keep them from any united resolve. Doesn't that sound
    eerily familiar?

    Democracies don't have their freedoms taken away from them by some
    external military force. Instead, they give their freedoms away,
    politically correct piece by politically correct piece.

    And they are giving those freedoms away to those who have shown,
    worldwide, that they abhor freedom and will not apply it to you or even
    to themselves, once they are in power.

    They have universally shown that when they have taken over, they then
    start brutally killing each other over who will be the few who control
    the masses. Will we ever stop hearing from the politically correct, about
    the "peaceful Muslims"?

    I close on a hopeful note, by repeating what I said above. If we are
    united, there is no way that we can lose. I hope now after the election,
    the factions in our country will begin to focus on the critical situation we
    are in, and will unite to save our country. It is your future we are talking
    about! Do whatever you can to preserve it.

    After reading the above, we all must do this not only for ourselves,
    but our children, our grandchildren, our country and the world.

    Whether Democrat or Republican, conservative or liberal --- and that
    includes the politicians and media of our country and the free
    world---Please forward this to any you feel may want, or NEED to read
    it. Our "leaders" in Congress ought to read it, too.

    There are those that find fault with our country, but it is obvious
    to anyone who truly thinks through this, that we must UNITE."

    HANK

      Clarification/Follow-up by excon on 10/21/05 12:59 pm:

      Hello again, HANK:

      Well, of course, I don't know any terrorists. That doesn't mean that their views are unknown. They do publish materials and videos and are not shy about telling us what they think.

      Being angry at us for being free is not a reason they list. Being angry at us for THEM not being free is, indeed, listed.

      Well, why are they mad at us because of that? Gee, as I grin stupidly, "I dunno".

      excon

      Clarification/Follow-up by HANK1 on 10/21/05 1:14 pm:


      Excon: Propaganda is a method of creating an attitude toward some person, organization or ideal by the influencing of opinion. It may be religious, social, cultural or political. As you mentioned, it may be effected by all MEDIA of communications. All countries at war find it necessary to establish departments of propaganda, often called information services. Nazi Germany's was particularly effective and Tokyo Rose didn't do a bad job herself during World War II.

      Thanks for the clarification, my friend.

      Clarification/Follow-up by Erewhon on 10/21/05 9:17 pm:
      The notion that terrorsts attack America because they are jealous of the USA is pure tripe.

      Why don't you listen to what they tell you is the cause of their enmity?


      You don't have to guess, and they have not been backwards in coming forwards about their motivation, but you just don't listen.

      Clarification/Follow-up by tomder55 on 10/22/05 3:52 am:
      yes it is always good to listen to the words of you're enemy . here is the text of OBL's fatwa ;the declaration of war against the US . It is a shame we did not act on it then but we were preoccupied with stained dresses.

      OBL identifies us as the Zionist-Crusaders alliance . My guess is that you would argue that if we were to leave the region and allow Israel to be over -run that all beefs against us would be eliminated and we could all play nice-nice.

      In his eyes we are the scape goat to the plight of the economically depressed region even though it is awash in petro-dollars that are not distributed but instead lavish palaces are built . That is our fault. He blames us because the shieks of Arabi asked us to remain after we had expelled the invader Saddam from Kuwait who's troops on the border of Saudi Arabi threatend the "holy places " of Islam.

      In some ways I do agree with him .We helped for too many years to enable shieks and dictators in the region . Now our policy is to support the people by planting the seeds that will result in self determination.

 
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