Clarification/Follow-up by tomder55 on 09/19/05 11:46 am:
Why does a 13 year old girl have the right not to inform her parents about 'reproductive choices 'she makes but does not have the right to skip school? Why can a homosexual choose their associations but it is not the right of an employer to choose not to hire them ? I'll use one of excon's favorites . Why restrict someone from obtaining any sundry or pharmaceutical if anyone has the right to get a day after pill ?
ok I'll say it the way it is .
There are defined rights to privacy enumerated in the bill of rights ;1st ;3rd ;4th and 5th amendments. Then in the 9th amendment 'right to privacy' becomes playdough in the hands of the social liberals who challenge the Judeo-Christian worldview.It is soley used to strike down laws of morality . There I said it .
Clarification/Follow-up by sapphire630 on 09/19/05 4:03 pm:
what's even crazier they just passed that we do NOT have to wear helmets to ride a motorcycle. Kids up to 80 pounds or 8 years old have to sit in the back seat---in booster seats. They can't understand and complain about families buying gas guzzling vehicles...wonder why? Try fitting a car seat and 2 boost seats in a compact car.
Clarification/Follow-up by Choux on 09/19/05 4:29 pm:
It:: You have no choice. Privacy is long gone.
Clarification/Follow-up by Choux on 09/19/05 4:41 pm:
Tom:: The Judeo-Christian worldview is not the only worldview with laws of morality!! Strict morality!!
Other than matters of sex, what are some aspects of the J-C morality the social lierals have struck down?? Say three examples.
Thanks.
Clarification/Follow-up by tomder55 on 09/20/05 8:05 am:
All questions about what defines life can be viewed through the Judeo-Christian values prism . That spans into issues related to life and death of the fetus and the use of fetal tissue for cloning .This "right to life" is narrowly defined. It is only extended to human life. Is the unborn human? Modern science tells us yes. The cells are not dog, cat, or any other species. Is the unborn part of mother or a distinct individual? Again, science demonstrates that the unborn is a distinct individual with a distinct genetic make up. The genetic make up is unique, neither mother nor father. The parent's privacy is not paramount to the unborns basic right to life that is violated .
If the right to privacy is broad then why is poligamy illegal ;LAMDA claims a privacy right to have sex with boys .Why is sodomy protected and prostitution unprotected?
The truth is that none of the framers wanted a general right to privacy that went beyond the will of the people . If they had ;they would've specified like they did in the 4th Amendment.(ironically Steve's complaint is specifically defined in the 4th but the undefined rights that the courts invented are so called 'penumbras' that the courts only recently discovered )
America can choose to reflect broad Judeo-Christian values through their elected representatives, as long as those values do not establish a particular religion as paramount. To say otherwise is to remove the power from the hands of the people and place it in the hands of a select few secular-liberal social engineers.
Clarification/Follow-up by excon on 09/20/05 9:19 am:
Hello tom:
I never smoked a sundry. Is it good?
excon
Clarification/Follow-up by Choux on 09/20/05 3:30 pm:
Tom, **Other than** anything relating to sexual matters, name three to five moral principles that social liberals have struck down, please.
1._____________
2._____________
3._____________
Hopefully more.
I think all your complaints are sex related.
(Let me say that slavery was an accepted part of J-C morality(approved of in the Bible), and social liberals supported striking down that evil.
Clarification/Follow-up by tomder55 on 09/21/05 7:46 am:
besides a civil war (made possible in no small part to the Supremes who made a terrible ,unconstitutional decision in the Dred Scott case); it took an amendment to the constitution to end slavery . there was no judicial fiat that decided slavery was unconstitional.
