Clarification/Follow-up by tomder55 on 08/22/05 12:20 pm:
Choux;

there is solid evidence that the Sunni in Iraq are becoming tired of the Zarqwai jihadists and have begun to turn on them . The point in Iraq to get to is for the Iraqis to fight the terrorists ;then we can go after the other patrons of Al-Qaeda et -al .

Clarification/Follow-up by tomder55 on 08/22/05 12:23 pm:
Ex

I was young but I still remeber the protests . I do not recall one of them complaining that we were not fighting hard enough or fighting to win . They pretty much echoed the Kerry's in saying that we were barbaric and brutal and that Ho Chi Ming was the equivalent of George Washington . In my mind they were taking sides against the US .

The catalyst that made the anti-war movement grow from a fringe college movement was the 1965 bombing of N Vietnam. In February and March of 1965, SDS organized marches on the Oakland Army Terminal ;a departing point of troops .This was the first wide spread protest and it was directed AT THE US TROOPS .Some of the largest protests occured when the fighting was the heaviest ;the Tet offensive ;the incursions into Laos and Cambodia etc.