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doing a good job? powderpuff 08/11/05
    Headlines News today

    Serious about deportations:

    British authorities said Thursday they plan to deport 10 foreigners who've been detained on suspicion of posing a threat to national security.

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    PAPERWORK MIX-UP
    Deportation sought for couple in West Toledo
    U.S. says pair here illegally since 1996....

    In the predawn semidarkness of a small West Toledo apartment, Dae and Yung Jung stumbled toward the thumping at their front door.

    Seconds later, officers in dark jackets emblazoned with Homeland Security crammed into the couple's living room demanding passports and drivers' licenses. Mrs. Jung was escorted to jail. Upstairs, the couple's son, Andrew, hid, stunned and baffled.

    Dae Jung is a sushi chef; Yung Jung is a longtime school volunteer. Andrew, 14, is a U.S. citizen because he was born in Toledo while Mr. Jung was studying at the University of Toledo on a student visa.

    Mrs. Jung has been behind bars in a string of Michigan prisons since U.S. Homeland Security officers raided the couple's home in February. Acting on deportation orders signed in 1996, they arrested Mrs. Jung but released Mr. Jung to care for Andrew.

    Most frustrating for the Jungs' supporters is that the couple was never allowed court hearings into the matter.

    At about 2:35 p.m. today, the Jungs will board Northwest Airlines Flight No. 25 for a 7,157-mile flight to Incheon, South Korea. Andrew, who plays violin with the Toledo Youth Orchestra and yesterday tried out for the golf team at Emmanuel Baptist, will remain in Toledo.

    You can read more on the story behind the Jungs deportation at ---> http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050810/NEWS02/508100399&SearchID=73216928770131

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    I'm pretty sure that there are bigger threats to our national security here, than the Jungs. Is our country doing its best to protect us, or is PC preventing us from finding the real threats? Are the British doing a better job of finding and deporting national security threats?




      Clarification/Follow-up by kindj on 08/11/05 7:57 am:
      At the risk of being seen as a blind loyalist, I have to have faith that there was more to the story than that. If DHS wanted an easy, soft target, there were certainly thousands of better ones to choose. I don't even pretend to know the whole story.

      However, I do have the luxury of having worked for the gov't in the policy enforcement area, and have many friends and family members who still do. I can say with one hundred percent certainty that the public rarely if ever gets the whole story. Quite frankly, if they did get the whole story all the time, most Americans would wet their pants and never come out from under the bed. That, or mass panic, anarchy, and vigilantism would be the order of the day, and I don't feel that I'm exaggerating one little bit.

      It's good to be critical of the system. It helps keep them as honest as politicians can be. However, to be critical to the point of believing they're complete incompetents and the Keystone Kops would do a better job is going too far, also. These agents are very, very good at what they do. Sure, there's screwups (ie, Waco, Ruby Ridge) and those should be handled very sternly. But there's also countless times when they've made a seemingly innocent (to us) bust that has quite literally staved off disaster. There's no noise, no fanfare, and no hero's parades. The only ones who know how close it was were the participants.

      Trust me, I think that's the way we want it.

      Be critical, yes. But also remember that this isn't a Hollywood conspiracy novel. These people have just as much at stake (families, homes, friends, etc.) as you and I do.

      Now, these comments weren't aimed specifically at you, but were just general thoughts I wanted to toss out there, so please, please don't eat my head.

      DK

      Clarification/Follow-up by powderpuff on 08/11/05 9:56 am:
      They missed some court dates back in 1996 which may or may not have been an honest mistake? Don't know....

      I'd feel better if I was reading that people who had more suspicious backgrounds were the ones being deported. Instead, I read banks are loaning illegal aliens money to buy property here and the Department of Homeland Security are raiding and deporting what looks like people I would like for my neighbors.

      Clarification/Follow-up by tomder55 on 08/11/05 12:22 pm:
      The story doesn't say why Mrs. Jung was arrested and not Mr. Jung, since it was Mr. Jung who applied for the student visa . Why was she arrested? What are the charges? Why wasn't Mr. Jung arrested as well?

      Clarification/Follow-up by tomder55 on 08/11/05 12:32 pm:
      re The Brits

      On Rush today one of the callers asked if the Supreme Court will look for guidance from the Brits (as some of the Justices have suggested that laws from other countries should help steer some of their decisions)regarding immigration and deportation laws .Good question !

 
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