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Praise be the Senate... Itsdb 05/24/05
    Robert C. Byrd--"the republic is saved"

    So the Dems have come to the rescue. The Senate has avoided the "nuclear" (constitutional) option" and will hold a vote on 3 judical nominees while still sacrificing others. How long has this been the plan, for the left to hold out until the last minute and "save" the republic? Will that be the rallying cry in the next election, if it weren't for the democrats our republic would have been doomed?

    Steve

      Clarification/Follow-up by tomder55 on 05/24/05 5:53 am:
      Here is the exact wording of the "agreement"

      MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING ON JUDICIAL NOMINATIONS

      We respect the diligent, conscientious efforts, to date, rendered to the Senate by Majority Leader Frist and Democratic Leader Reid. This memorandum confirms an understanding among the signatories, based upon mutual trust and confidence, related to pending and future judicial nominations in the 109th Congress.

      This memorandum is in two parts. Part I relates to the currently pending judicial nominees; Part II relates to subsequent individual nominations to be made by the President and to be acted upon by the Senate’s Judiciary Committee.

      We have agreed to the following:

      Part I: Commitments on Pending Judicial Nominations

      A. Votes for Certain Nominees. We will vote to invoke cloture on the following judicial nominees: Janice Rogers Brown (D.C. Circuit), William Pryor (11th Circuit), and Priscilla Owen (5th Circuit).

      B. Status of Other Nominees. Signatories make no commitment to vote for or against cloture on the following judicial nominees: William Myers (9th Circuit) and Henry Saad (6th Circuit).

      Part II: Commitments for Future Nominations

      A. Future Nominations. Signatories will exercise their responsibilities under the Advice and Consent Clause of the United States Constitution in good faith. Nominees should only be filibustered under extraordinary circumstances, and each signatory must use his or her own discretion and judgment in determining whether such circumstances exist.

      B. Rules Changes. In light of the spirit and continuing commitments made in this agreement, we commit to oppose the rules changes in the 109th Congress, which we understand to be any amendment to or interpretation of the Rules of the Senate that would force a vote on a judicial nomination by means other than unanimous consent or Rule XXII.

      We believe that, under Article II, Section 2, of the United States Constitution, the word “Advice” speaks to consultation between the Senate and the President with regard to the use of the President’s power to make nominations. We encourage the Executive branch of government to consult with members of the Senate, both Democratic and Republican, prior to submitting a judicial nomination to the Senate for consideration.

      Such a return to the early practices of our government may well serve to reduce the rancor that unfortunately accompanies the advice and consent process in the Senate.

      We firmly believe this agreement is consistent with the traditions of the United States Senate that we as Senators seek to uphold.

      Clarification/Follow-up by tomder55 on 05/24/05 6:13 am:
      How long do we now have to wait for them to kill off the Bolton nomination through some smoke filled back room deal ?

      Clarification/Follow-up by excon on 05/24/05 8:26 am:

      Sure it is, Steve:

      Minority rule might be too strong, but our founding fathers absolutely wanted the senate to be where the minority was at least equal with the majority. That's why even teeny states are represented equally with big ones.

      The senate, being mindful of that fact, lived by rules that gave the minority the ability to stop the majority from running over them.

      I think it's a pretty good rule, and I'm glad it's going to be preserved.

      excon

      Clarification/Follow-up by Itsdb on 05/24/05 8:34 am:
      ex,

      Of course the founding fathers gave smaller "states" an equal voice in the senate, but this isn't about state's rights.

      I'm all for minority protections...but that doesn't translate to minority rule. Otherwise, electing a majority would be meaningless. Should I hope my guys lose next time around so we can rule?

      Steve

      Clarification/Follow-up by tomder55 on 05/25/05 4:15 am:
      drgade

      see the section in part II called 'Rules Changes ' .it says that we commit to oppose the rules changes in the 109th Congress, which we understand to be any amendment to or interpretation of the Rules of the Senate that would force a vote on a judicial nomination by means other than unanimous consent or Rule XXII.

      you see how the game is played ? they can oppose and filibuster any nominee due to an undefined "extraordinary circumstances" ;but the Republicans agree to not make any rule changes during the session .

      On top of that they claim that advice and consent means that the President has to filter his nominees through the cabal of 14 before he submits . This is an insidious power grab. The unkindest cut of all is the complicity of the Republican 7 dwarves .

 
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1. I noticed yesterday how White Sheets Byrd looks an alot like...
05/24/05 tomder55Excellent or Above Average Answer
2. Hi Steve: Hmph. Imagine me, supporting moderates. I'...
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3. I do hope the majority goes ahead with the "nuclear" c...
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