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Democrat logic...an oxymoron? Itsdb 05/09/05
    From Mario Cuomo's radio address of April 30th:

    "Now, the Republicans in the Senate, instead of dealing with his litany of failures, are threatening to claim ownership of the Supreme Court and other federal courts, hoping to achieve political results on subjects like abortion, stem cells, the environment and civil rights that they can not get from the proper political bodies: the Congress and the presidency.

    How will they do this? By destroying the so-called filibuster, a vital part of the 200-year-old system of checks and balances in the Senate that allows the fullest possible debate before one of the president's choices for the Supreme Court or other federal courts is allowed to take his or her place on the bench. That would be a change so undesirably destructive that it has been called the nuclear option.

    The Republicans say it would assure dominance by the majority in the Senate. That sounds democratic until you remember that the Bill of Rights was adopted, as James Madison pointed out, in order to protect all Americans from what he called, the tyranny of the majority. And it sounds nearly absurd when you learn that the minority Democrats in the Senate actually represent more Americans than the majority Republicans do.

    The public surveys reveal that most Americans believe there appears to be no good reason to change the Senate process after all these years. In fact, there is none."

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    Let me get this straight...Democrats believe "the Congress and the presidency" are the proper bodies through which to achieve political results?

    More Americans are represented by Democrat senators than Republican Senators, so the Republicans don't really have a majority in the Senate?

      Clarification/Follow-up by tomder55 on 05/10/05 6:32 am:
      Mort Kondracke offers this compromise today .It sounds sensible.



      Reportedly, Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has floated an agreement, not in writing, to allow votes on some of the seven Bush nominees currently under filibuster threat in return for a nuclear stand-down.

      But this offer defeats the very notion that all of the threatened nominees are "extreme." Indeed, the Democrats already have filibustered some nominees - Miguel Estrada and Charles Pickering in the 108th Congress - who were in no way extreme.

      The deal should be this: Democrats will permit up-or-down votes on all of Bush's current nominees in return for a written agreement from Frist that first, all judicial nominees will be brought to the floor for debate, answering the Democratic complaint that President Bill Clinton's nominees were routinely bottled up in the Judiciary Committee.

      And second, the GOP will abide by the current Senate rule that the rules can be changed only by two-thirds vote and the tradition that Senate rules carry over from one Congress to another.And third, that the filibuster should be preserved as a minority option in "extraordinary circumstances."



      Clarification/Follow-up by Itsdb on 05/10/05 7:08 am:
      And fourth, one must actually filibuster?

      Clarification/Follow-up by tomder55 on 05/10/05 12:08 pm:
      btw :just checked out Huffington's blog . She has 2 articles (by Jim Lapley and John Conyers) about how Bush stole the 2004 election.

      This is the best part ...............

      Lampley's evidence

      the bookies were wrong:

      People who have lived in the sports world as I have, bettors in particular, have a feel for what I am about to say about this: these people are extremely scientific in their assessments. These people understand which information to trust and which indicators to consult in determining where to place a dividing line to influence bets, and they are not in the business of being completely wrong. Oddsmakers consulted exit polling and knew what it meant and acknowledged in their oddsmaking at that moment that John Kerry was winning the election.
      And he most certainly was, at least if the votes had been fairly and legally counted. What happened instead was the biggest crime in the history of the nation, and the collective media silence which has followed is the greatest fourth-estate failure ever on our soil.



      oh ;I live for this !!!!!!

      Clarification/Follow-up by tomder55 on 05/10/05 12:21 pm:
      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/2005/05/biggest-story-of-our-live.html

      Clarification/Follow-up by Itsdb on 05/10/05 1:31 pm:
      tom,

      I was browsing the Huffington blog this morning, and I can say she certainly has a variety of bloggers...this should be fun.

 
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