Clarification/Follow-up by ETWolverine on 09/03/04 1:52 pm:
>>>I watched Cheney and Bush!! <<<

Miller had as much to say about what Bush is about as Bush did. And he said it extremely well. Missing it was missing a peice of the puzzle.

I don't like half the people who spoke at the DNC. I absolutely hate Clinton (Hillary or Bill, take your pick) but I listened anyway, because that is how you learn what the party and the candidates are all about. I hate Sharpton and consider him a racist. But I listened to him (and have to admit he's an amusing speaker, despite the fact that he polarizes the country along racial lines). If you don't listen and track what the other party has to say just as much as you track your own party, how can you expect to have the entire picture? How can you consider yourself an educated voter.

>>>Potaki was talked about as the successor to Bush in 2008 by the commentators I watched; I nearly lost my dinner. Yuck. I've slipped into a depression over that. <<<

I don't like Pataki either... though for other reasons. But if you're depressed now, just wait till you read my post titles "The Bounce" on this board. You're going to be positively crushed.

I, on the other hand, am loving it.

I apologize in advance for gloating. It's not how I usually act, but this election has me emotionally involved in a big way.

Elliot

Clarification/Follow-up by Chouxxx on 09/03/04 2:03 pm:
Elliot:: I don't mind if you gloat, I like you!

We can't understand each other about Zell Miller; I went through lots with those southern white politicians in the sixties; the likes of Wallace, Maddox, Miller, Helms, the 100 year old guy that finally died, all of those bastards.

I would never listen to a thing any of them has/had to say. I remember their faces when they spoke on TV. Yuck

Clarification/Follow-up by ETWolverine on 09/03/04 2:09 pm:
Then you don't believe that people can change? Miller clearly has. He spoke of diversity in the party and the country, and he has on any number of occaisions renounced his segregationist past.

I guess that is why you have said that you still consider Bush a drunk, as well as considering Miller a racist. You don't believe that people can change, no matter how much they prove it.

But that's fair... you still consider Kerry a war hero, despit the decades of proof (from his Senate Testimony to his 20 years of trying to gut the military's budget) that he has changed.

Once you formulate an impression of someone, you seem to stick to that impression. I guess first impressions really are the most important.

Elliot

Clarification/Follow-up by tomder55 on 09/04/04 3:39 am:
the condemnations also include J. William Fulbright ? Clinton often talked in glowing terms of him and called Fullbright his mentor. ans speaking of Clinton ;I wish him a successful operation today and a speedy recovery.