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Why are there so many clear lies here on this board ?	Pericles	02/05/07
And why are there so many people consistently lying here? Just one example out of too many : --- Topic : "Is secular humanism a religion?" by peddler7118 dated 02/03/07 Peddler claimed in her topic : "Secular humanists don’t want to be called religious. That’s because they don’t want to admit that teaching materialistic evolution is really a religious point of view" So I commented that Humanism is no religion. That a religion requires a deity as focal point. And that although Religious Humanism CAN have a focal point that MAY include a deity (Note : Can have, May include), Secular Humanism (the topic there) has no deity what-so-ever. It is focussed on the interest of the human being itself. To which peddler replied : "No it does not. The belief that there is no God and no creator is as religious as a person get get. There is no way to know there is no creator and no explanation for the existence of intelligence without one. It takes tremendous faith to deny God. Atheists have always claimed to be neutral but as your actions cleary show you are very religious and in fact zealous in your chosen faith" So I posted : Secular Humanism does not have anything to say about any deity, nor it's existence, nor it's qualities. Nowhere does Secular Humanism state that "there is no God". Get your act together and your argument supported by facts! Peddler replied : ""The first word in the Humanist Manifesto describes it as a religion and that is repeated 9 more times in the articles of faith." So I first posted the first two chapters of the Religious Humanist Manifesto, clearly proving that ""The first words in the Humanist Manifesto do NOTdescribe it as a religion. After I got a second similar LIE back from her I posted BOTH the entire Religious Humanist Manifesto and the Secular Humanist Declaration. Still a similar worded LIE and several other false accusations came back from her. Further requests from my side to support her claims were ignored and replaced by CHILDISH statements on the use of Vaseline and the problems of diaper rash. However : peddler did not redrew her LIES on the wording of the Humanist Manifesto. while the proof was in front of her, for all to see! --- The above shows perfectly what too many here on this board seem to assume : that they can post clear lies without being found out. To them I say : forget it : you will be asked to SHOW precise details on what you accuse others off, and to SUPPORT these accusations with evidence. So don't babble and sidestep here as so many do, but SUPPORT YOUR OWN STATEMENTS !!! And provide supporting evidence upon request (though you should already have provided that with your accusations!) But most important : if you think that you can sidestep the request for supporting evidence think again : I will make it one of my targets to show you what you are in that case : A LIAR !!!!!!! A scout may be always prepared. But if you lie here, you better also be prepared, because I will put you in the pillory as a liar !   My first pillory convicted : Peddler   Of course there is also one for the males
Clarification/Follow-up by domino on 02/05/07 4:29 pm: Pericles: Stop being so damned HYPER-critical...Dark Crow's response was as much of an 'answer' as any other you have received. I'm not asking you to try to use 'honey' to catch flies, but if you keep planting 'skunk cabbage' in your garden, don't be surprised when people tell you your garden stinks. You have a lot to say, and you add a certain level of logic to this board that is essential in any dialogue...but your hyper-criticism is crapping all over your intent. MELLOW, DUDE, MELLOW!!!! Save your scorn for those who REALLY deserve it. Clarification/Follow-up by domino on 02/05/07 4:43 pm: Peddler: It is enriching to know that you are so intimately aquainted with 'congenital syphllis'..but you forget to note.."Cerebral rash" which is the result of the kind of mental masturbation to which you are addicted. And the sad thing is, you mental self abusers end up 'shooting blanks' every time :) :) :) ATHEISM....the belief that there is no GOD! Theism.....the belief that there is a God! Neither atheism nor theism is a RELIGION...but a belief. Only THEISM leads to religion. I'm really sorry that you cannot understand such simple concepts, it speaks volumes about your close mindedness, intolerance and invincible ignorance. But jeeezzzzzz, that Great Roman CAtholic theologian, ARCURA agrees with you...so THAT should be a feather in your cap! ROTFLMAO Now, the least you can do is STOP telling him his ass is going to fry in Hell for all eternity. That shows a complete lack of gratitude on YOUR part. Isn't it funny how shared hatreds create such really, really, really, STRANGE Bedfellows. Have to take a break....I'm laughing too hard to type...... Clarification/Follow-up by Pericles on 02/05/07 5:54 pm:   peddler No advice on Vaseline and nappy rash this time?   Clarification/Follow-up by Pericles on 02/05/07 5:57 pm:   Arcura Why do you think I would be interested what any judge in your religious-mad country decides on atheism? Specially as the legal system in your MacDonalds banana republic is not especially wellknown for it's fairness and real independence ???   Clarification/Follow-up by Pericles on 02/05/07 5:57 pm:   TSapphire Get Real, babbling Betsy !   Clarification/Follow-up by Pericles on 02/05/07 6:09 pm:   TSapphire Get Real, babbling Betsy !   Clarification/Follow-up by Pericles on 02/06/07 1:41 am:   TS Who cares what you are babbling all over this board. But feel free to do in my topics : no problems : it's your privilege to post whatever you want. But than don't complain if I react critical at times.   Clarification/Follow-up by Pericles on 02/09/07 1:05 pm:   I have no need to argue any further with you here, Jacky! Just read what I posted earlier. &bsp;
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domino		02/05/07
Pericles: The greatest liars on this board, unfortunalty,call themselves 'Christians'...and that is an insult to the sincere Christians who have no need to lie in order to support some silly brain dead contentions. THAT is the most likely reason MORE sincere Christians have stopped posting here, they don't want to be likened to phoney Christians like Peddler, Toms777 and the Mad Dog. Peddler, the most persistent liar,. MUST lie, because she has nothing of the truth to offer. Do you think it was a simple oversight that she has not signed on as an EXPERT in Christianity??? Not by a long shot..After making an ass of herself after she signed on as an EXPERT on the Mormonism board, she figured "once burned, twice warned"...She was trashed by the real Mormons and every one of her lies was refuted by Errwhon, Scott and Sissy. Her average rating was ONE BLACK STAR. She got the hell out of THERE in a flash. She was not about to make THAT mistake again. As a 'user' she has less chance of being suspended for lying or attacking her respondents, and her insane responses are only open to investigation for a short period of time, since only EXPERTS have their answers compiled for later, quick, reference. That was the only smart move she has made. Her lies, here, have ranged from the mindless to the the ridiculous...from claiming 'NO ONE KNOWS WHO BUILT THE GREAT PYRAMID OF CHEOPS IN EGYPT'...to EVOLUTIONISTS KILLED AND BOILED ABORIGINES SO THEY COULD COLLECT THEIR SKULLS AND PASS THEM OFF AS CAVEMEN.' She consistantly misquotes scripture, and when corrected becomes venomous. She can post NOTHING on her own, but must rely on cutting and pasteing (with serious deletions and criminal tampering) the opinons of others that have, for the most part, ALREADY been dismissed as crackpot science. She relies for her information on Fundamentalist Christian propaganda websites...principally 'answersinGenesis'.. one of the most biased and fraudulent websites going. When asked to back up their ridiculous claims with PROOF, she suddenly turns MUTE, or starts screaming invective. She has NEVER offered one shred of proof for any of her ridiculous claims. As to the other 'liars' I beleive that, for the most part, they are simply misinformed or ill-informed and not malicious liars. I see a great deal of confusion in their responses, but only in one other case do I detect any real malice. There is a strong temptation, when confronted with people like Peddler, Toms777, Mad Dog...and to a lesser extent, Mahatmacot, Haywood, and jjgoss....to paint ALL Christians as liars or religious psychopaths....that is an unfair assessment. It is a temptation that MUST, in the name of truth, honesty, and conscience, be resisted, no matter how hard that might be. I've managed to do it...so can you. :)

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