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deardra asked on 03/05/06 - is christianity really a good thing

I hear a lot about what good religion is but when I look around that isnt what I see. Why is it that religions like christianity and the other major religions all teach love forgiveness and brotherhood but still remain involed in so much murder and hate around the world?

sapphire630 answered on 03/07/06:

The problem is people wanting to make God in their own image and whoever doesn't conform is given hell. Being 'religious' or setting God's standard at ones own level of rational
isn't the answer.

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Nicole2cute4u85 asked on 03/06/06 - question about pregnancy while guy on drugs

I was told that if a guy smokes a lot of weed and drinks he would not be able to get the girl he is having sex with pregnant. Is this true? I need to know if it's possible for me to get pregnant even though he does a lot of drugs and drinks a lot.

sapphire630 answered on 03/07/06:

Yeah definitely possible and expect some mental health issues with the baby. I and others have realized there is definitely a link between all the attention deficit and bi-polar kids and their drug addicted mothers OR fathers.
My ex smoked weed and all 4 of my kids have these types of mental health problems. One is severe.

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revdauphinee asked on 03/06/06 - we lost more than members with the recent folks baned from this site

recently we lost some of our regulars due to much infighting,and whilst I dont miss the fighting I do miss some of them!Because allong with losing the fighting in my oppinion, we also lost alot of the zest for life I loved about this site ,I hope it dosent turn into some bland mealy site that I for one wont enjoy as much as I have for all these years,How about the rest of you ??/I for one miss sparing with Aton he never agreed with my views but at least he was never mean spirited with it as I have recently found one or two folks begining to be!I love answerway and dont want it to change so much that I will no longer feel welcome on here !becaue we are Christians (some of us)does this mean we have to have to zest for living to be interested in nothing else in our lives Did not Jesus himself tell us he came to give us life more abundantly ??He did not die to make us misserable but in order that we could live that abundant life every part of it!

sapphire630 answered on 03/07/06:

Ere:
insulting language usually equals infighting.

Yeap, boring board is exactly what it will be if Choux, Aton and whoever else don't get back on board!

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powderpuff asked on 02/22/06 - I need to be reminded

Hi,

I have become a little worried since the other day when a couple terrorists were arrested just down the street from me. Not just right here in my home town, but, I can actually see where they lived from my yard. I walk past their apartment regularly and though I never knew who lived there, I never felt safe walking past. I learned after walking past the first time to cross the street and walk on the other side (the farm side) of the road every time I walked that way. It looked nice enough from the outside, but I could not get past the bad feeling when I walked past it.

That's all beside the point of my post. I need to be reminded of why I should not panic and become suspicious of all muslims in my area. These terrorists, who were my neighbors, are accused of recruiting since Nov. 2004 among other things. Three were arrested but, only 2 in my neighborhood.

What is the likelihood that there are more people in my town that were/are involved with these men that were arrested? I have heard conflicting news reports that these men were also connected to a local charity that was frozen over the weekend, accused of funding terrorists.

Now we are being told by officials to stay vigilant, but the Muslim community is asking us not to commit prejudice.

What is going to happen if all of "us" become too scared and suspicious of all of "them"?

powderpuff

sapphire630 answered on 02/22/06:

I heard about that on the radio yesterday and today.
All I can say is don't get all paraoid and just keep following your instincts.
Take care!

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Pete_Hanysz asked on 02/15/06 - For arcura

Fred:

Let's get this sorted;

Are you posting, or responding on this board, under any name other than arcura?

A simple yes, or no will do.

I know it's none of my business but curious minds need to know!!

Pete

sapphire630 answered on 02/15/06:

That could be like asking the kid if he ate the cookies out of the cookie jar and the kid says no with the evidence all over his face!

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ATON2 asked on 02/15/06 - FIEND alert!!!!

We have just been introduced to the FOURTH of Fred/arcuras Five FIENDS...another freak who signs on as Ogoun-Gerouge...who joined us about a half hour ago, just after ATON berated Fred for having no shame in repeatedly resposting urban legends as TRUTH.
See the sick profile for this nut-case under RELIGION...and then read his response to ATON....almost a carbon copy of ARCURA.
It seems the molly-coddling of this deceitful little liar is creating a Frankenstein monster. Good going guys!!!!!

sapphire630 answered on 02/15/06:

which number is fiend herrairhorn? Wonder if herrairhorn fiend is an airhead woman???

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ATON2 asked on 02/14/06 - Christian choice????
Christian choice???

If Cheney's shooting victim dies as a result of the shooting....should Cheney step down from the Vice Presidency????????

sapphire630 answered on 02/14/06:

Nah, it just shows he can do a better than watergate with birdgate. So just let all the gates open and all hell break loose!

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ATON2 asked on 02/13/06 - Update on "bad shot Cheney"

This, just in from the Associated Press is particularly for ETWolverine, Tomder and the rest of the Republican gun lovers group, who obviously aren't as up to snuff on hunting etiquette as they should be.


Since I don't cut and paste, I'll just give you the first part...you can find the rest, yourself:

CHENEY APPARENTLY BREAKS KEY HUNTING RULE!

By Nedra Pickler, Associated Press Writer

"Vice President Dick Cheney apparently broke the No. 1 rule of hunting. Be sure of what you are shooting at. He also violated Texas game law by failing to buy a hunting stamp......

Hunting safety experts interviewd Monday agreed it would have been a good idea for Wittington to announce himself---something he apparently didn't do, according to a witness. But they stressed that the shooter is responsible for avoiding other people.

"It's incumbent upont the shooter to assess the situation and make sure it's a safe shot," said Mirk Birkhauser, president-elect of the International Hunter Education Association and hunter education coordinator in New Mexico. "Once you squeeze that trigger, you can't bring that shot back.

The Parks and Wildlike Department said Cheney and Whittington will be given warning citations for violating game law and not having an upland game bird stamp, a requirement that went into effect in September......"

So not only is Cheney a lousy shot, and an inconsiderate hunter, he thinks he is above the law. :) :) :) :)

sapphire630 answered on 02/14/06:

The problem is they think they are above the law because they do not get treated with the same law whether they are republican or democrat.
They said Cheney only has to pay the 7.00 for the stamp he didn't have. If it was one of us 'peons' they woulda thrown the book at us and given us the biggest fine they could have.
My bet is if the guy were to die, Cheney will only have given Leno more to pick on him about; whereas if it were one of us 'peons' we would have involuntary man-slaughter or something.

To copy and paste:
Left click mouse and go over what you want to copy. Once it is highlighted in black, right click and click on the word copy.
Go to where you want to paste it and right click and click on the word paste.

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ATON2 asked on 02/14/06 - Christian response needed.

What should be the CHRISTIAN response to a self-proclaimed Christian expert, who signs on with two or more different 'monikers' at the same time, answers his own postings, and uses the phoney sign-ins to down rate other experts??????
Non-Christians are also free to respond :)

sapphire630 answered on 02/14/06:

Maybe their life is that dull, boring and totally lacking any sense of life. Like maybe this board is the only amusement they
can find to liven their hum-drum existence.
Maybe we should post a question on ideas for what they can do to put some excitement in their life.

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revdauphinee asked on 02/14/06 - give me your imput please

I just heard on the news that bird shot from cheyneys so called accident had migrated to the victims heart causing him to have a heart atack !whilst they state he is still in no danger I cant help but wonder what the outcome would be should he die from this???if one gets into a car ""acident"" and someone dies you are charged with vehicular homicide do you think if this should (hypotheticly)happen Cheyney should face some kind of charge???I do

sapphire630 answered on 02/14/06:

When I heard about it, they said Cheney only has to pay the 7.00 for the stamp he didn't have. If it was one of us 'peons' they woulda thrown the book at us and given us the biggest fine they could have.
....So my bet is if the guy dies, Cheney will only have given Leno more to pick on him about whereas if it were one of us 'peons' we would have involuntary man-slaughter or something.

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ATON2 asked on 01/31/06 - Just a clarification

Sorry, my computer has indigestion...It keeps batting out duplicate ratings....I certainly did not MEAN to give drgade Three 5-star ratings for a response with which I was in TOTAL disagreement :) :) :)

Maybe it's a virus, or a gremlin ....since arcura gave me one 5-star rating and Two black star ratings for the SAME reponses :) :) :) I'd hate to think I caught something from HIM :) :) :)

sapphire630 answered on 02/01/06:

papaya enzyme works wonders for indigestion and many stomach ailments. It's an old Jamacian thing.

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arcura asked on 02/01/06 - There were several reactions to Bush's speach.....

Here is one of them.
Ahmadinejad Vows to Resist 'Bully' Nations
AP - 4 minutes ago

TEHRAN, Iran - Iran's president lashed out Wednesday at the United States and vowed to resist the pressure of "bully countries" as European nations circulated a draft resolution urging that Tehran be brought before the U.N. Security Council for its nuclear activities. In a speech to thousands of supporters hours after President Bush's State of the Union address, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad derided the United States as a "hollow superpower" that is "tainted with the blood of nations" and said Tehran would continue its nuclear program.
What was your reaction?
Mine was a mixture of yeses and nos.

sapphire630 answered on 02/01/06:

From what I heard he could have just plyed a repeat of any one of his past speeches. I didn't hear one single new OR informative thing. If I hadn't been exhausted already I would say it put me to sleep and I didn't even watch it--just listened to the so called highlights.

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arcura asked on 01/26/06 - A long tunnel indicates a determined effort!!!!!

The Border Patrol found an almost mile long tunnel under the USA Mexican border.
It was equipped with electric lights and water. Also big enough for a person to walk though carrying smuggled goods, drugs, and weapons into the USA
I’m not a miner so I don’t have any idea of how long it would take or how many men would be needed to dig and equip such a tunnel.
Do you?
I wonder how long it was in use before being discovered.
Have you any idea or information about that?
Peace and kindness,
Fred

sapphire630 answered on 01/30/06:

They better watch they don't run into the Roswell-Area 51 tunnel or look out!

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STONY asked on 01/24/06 - I APPOLOGIZE RONNIE....

I PUT YOU IN A CLASS WITH SOMEONE WHO OBVIOUSLY HAS NO CLASS. ATON IS IN A CLASS OF HIS OWN!! I´M CERTAIN HE BELIEVES HE´S A LEGEND IN HIS OWN MIND. BUT THEN AREN´T THOSE IN INSANE ASSYLUMS LEGENDS IN THEIR OWN MIND?

sapphire630 answered on 01/24/06:

Hey I AM A legend in my own mind.
I am under the illusion of grand delusion.
I AM the IN-sane assylum.
My theme song is They are coming to take me away.
BUT I must add they can't take me away any more than a crazy person can go crazy!!!
So Aton can join my *club* or should I say assylum any time he wants!!!

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ATON2 asked on 01/24/06 - Christian alert!! Christian alert!!!

How many of you think it is a good idea to put the image of Jesus Christ on coins that most men carry in their front trouser pockets right next to their testicles???????? It's bad enough that women keep Jesus image buried in their cleavage, but to have him share the testicular tenement?????????? I shudder to think where you would keep the image if it appeared on paper money :)

And do you think J.C. would appreciate being stuck in a casino slot machine...or perhaps used to pay off a prostitute?????? Just curious :)

sapphire630 answered on 01/24/06:

women keep Jesus image buried in their cleavage? I never knew that!
I guess they take the term bossom buddy literally.

Personally I do not get into all the images stuff cause nobody really knows what Jesus actually looked like. So the picture of Jesus could well have been drawn by an artist using a local drunk as his model.

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Choux asked on 01/18/06 - Christian Dogma

Christian dogma regarding human sexuality is based on fear, isn't it?

I'll never forget a movie I saw about the English colonizating of New Zealand...there were no typical stereotypes portrayed. What a thought provoking movie!

It was the "proper" English man building fences and making financial profit for himself and bringing 'civilization' to a raw land. The native NewZealanders were just friendly and open about everything, good senses of humor and good and loyal friends.

Anyway, one theme was a sexual theme, in one scene a group of people are sitting around talking about what was going on and how uptight the English were about sex, and one native man laughed and flipped up his garb and showed his penis and all laughed, then he flipped it back down.

Time to put human sexuality in proper perspective.

sapphire630 answered on 01/18/06:

for me personally I figured a long time ago (the Bible has it right...maybe for somewhat different reasons than my own conclusions).
I don't want to waste my time or life on dead end relationships.

Also I see all these girls nowadays and they jump from guy to guy to guy within a year like changing shoes. Teens have been with more guys within a year than what I have even merely talked to in my lifetime.
Where is their pride or dignity?

Not to even mention all the sex diseases.

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Tex78 asked on 01/18/06 - If you are old, if you are on your way, does this describe you?


Old age, I decided, is a gift.

I am now, probably for the first time in my life, the person I have always wanted to be. Oh, not my body! I sometime despair over my body ... the wrinkles, the baggy eyes, and the sagging butt.
And often I am taken aback by that old person that lives in my
mirror, but I don't agonize over those things for long.

I would never trade my amazing friends, my wonderful life, my loving family for less gray hair or a flatter belly. As I've aged, I've become more kind to myself, and less critical of myself. I've become my own friend. I don't chide myself for eating that extra cookie, or for not making my bed, or for buying that silly cement gecko that I didn't need, but looks so avante garde on my patio. I am entitled to overeat, to be messy, to be extravagant. I have seen too many dear friends leave this world too soon; before they understood the great freedom that comes with aging.



Whose business is it if I choose to read or play on the computer until 4 a.m., and sleep until noon . . or go to the casino


I will dance with myself to those wonderful tunes of the 60's, and if I, at the same time, wish to weep over a lost love... I will.


I will walk the beach in a swim suit that is stretched over a bulging body, and will dive into the waves with abandon if I choose to, despite the pitying glances from the bikini set.

They, too, will get old.


I know I am sometimes forgetful. But there again, some of life is just as well forgotten ... and I eventually remember the important things.

Sure, over the years my heart has been broken.

How can your heart not break when you lose a loved one, or when a child suffers, or even when a beloved pet gets hit by a car? But broken hearts are what give us strength and understanding and compassion. A heart never broken is pristine and sterile and will never know the joy of being imperfect.


I am so blessed to have lived long enough to have my hair turn gray, and to have my youthful laughs be forever etched into deep grooves on my face. So many have never laughed, and so many have died before their hair could turn silver. I can say "no", and mean it. I can say "yes", and mean it.


As you get older, it is easier to be positive.
You care less about what other people think.
I don't question myself anymore.
I've even earned the right to be wrong.

So, to answer your question, I like being old.
It has set me free.

I like the person I have become.
I am not going to live forever, but while I am still here,
I will not waste time lamenting what could have been, or worrying about what will be. And I shall eat dessert every single day.

Author unknown


sapphire630 answered on 01/18/06:


The Golden Years

I cannot see
I cannot pee
I cannot chew
I cannot screw
My memory shrinks
My hearing stinks
No sense of smell
I look like hell!
My mood is bad -can you tell?
My body's drooping
Have trouble pooping
The Golden Years has come at last
The Golden Years can kiss my ass.

author unknown

They say that more and more people are saying their life is starting in their senior years. More and more they are bike riding, running in marathons, etc....

yeah the older I get the younger I feel and I am starting to feel like I might actually be able to have a life someday....maybe...



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revdauphinee asked on 01/15/06 - An Orangutan's Reading List



One day the zoo-keeper noticed that the orangutan was reading two books: the Bible and Darwin's Origin of Species. Surprised, he asked the ape, "Why are you reading both those books?"

"Well," said the orangutan, "I just wanted to know if I was my brother's keeper or my keeper's brother."

sapphire630 answered on 01/17/06:

Yep I know my ancestors never did evolve and sometimes they wonder about me!

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Choux asked on 01/16/06 - Ruin Your Sex Life

Without involving religion:

Thinking of buying a TV for the bedroom? Think again -- it could ruin your sex life.

REUTERS Jan 16: A study by an Italian sexologist has found that couples who have a TV set in their bedroom have sex half as often as those who don't.

"If there's no television in the bedroom, the frequency (of sexual intercourse) doubles," said Serenella Salomoni whose team of psychologists questioned 523 Italian couples to see what effect television had on their sex lives.


Do you have a TV in your bedroom?

sapphire630 answered on 01/17/06:

I don't know what either is
LOL
no TV nor sex!
:)

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Erewhon asked on 01/11/06 - The BIG QUESTION is: "Has Pat "Assassin" Robertson puts his devil's foot back insid



Pat Robertson told viewers of his 螌 Club" that God gets angry "against those who 'divide my land'."


Is Robertson right to say that God has struck General Sharon down for 'dividing' the State of Israel by returning some of the occupied land to its rightful Palestinian Arab owners?

Please answer the question as asked.

:)



sapphire630 answered on 01/11/06:

I went to a church one time where the preacher preached that the other preachers in the same non-denomination were in the hospital with heart problems because they made remarks against him on the radio as well as from the pulpit....Though he didn't think anything of it when he had to go to the hospital for his heart. I suppose he just attributed his heart problem to his gluttonus addiction to fetticine alfredo as well as his being 200 lbs over weight.

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revdauphinee asked on 01/09/06 - The Guardian Angel's Mistake





A middle aged woman has a heart attack and is taken to the hospital. While on the operating table she has a near-death experience. During that experience she sees her guardian angel and asks if this is her time. The angel says no and explains that she has another 30-40 years to live.Upon her recovery she decides to just stay in the hospital for a few more days and have a facelift, liposuction and a tummy tuck. She even has someone come in and change her hair color. She figures since she's got another 30 or 40 years she might as well make the most of it. She walks out the hospital after the last operation and is killed by an ambulance speeding up to the hospital.

She arrives in heaven again, sees her guardian angel and says, "I thought you said I had another 30-40 years!!"

The angel replies, "Sorry. I didn't recognize you."

sapphire630 answered on 01/09/06:

That's just too much!!!

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Tex78 asked on 01/06/06 - Does this explain to some of you, why our men die in battle....?

Cindy Sheehan asked President Bush, "Why did my son have to die in Iraq"??

Another mother asked Harry Truman, "Why did my son have to die in Korea"??

Another mother asked Franklin D. Roosevelt, "Why did my son have to die at Iwo Jima"??

Another mother asked Woodrow Wilson, "Why did my son have to die on the battlefield of France"??

Yet another mother asked Abraham Lincoln, "Why did my son have to die at Gettysburg"??

And yet another mother asked George Washington, "Why did my son have to die near Valley Forge"??

Then long, long ago, a mother asked, "Heavenly Father, why did my son have to die on a cross outside Jerusalem"??

The answers to all these are similar: that others may have life and dwell in peace, happiness and freedom.

AUTHOR UNKNOWN

sapphire630 answered on 01/09/06:

George Washington lead the troops into battle...I wonder where the war would be if Bush had to do the same?

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arcura asked on 01/07/06 - Oh you sweet thing, you ain't so good...............

ASPARTAME FINALLY IMPERILED!
By Dr. Betty Martini
Mission Possible International
9270 River Club Parkway
Duluth, Georgia 30097
Telephone: 770-242-2599
E-Mail: BettyM19@mindspring.com
Web Site: http://www.dorway.com
New Mexico October 6, 2005:
We, the People, won! On October 4th New Mexico's Environmental Improvement Board (EIB) courageously withstood a determined fight to preempt investigation of a food poison. This is a first for the Nation! Ever since Don Rumsfeld called in his markers to seat an FDA Commissioner who would finally approve aspartame/NutraSweet/Equal, the political clout, cash and cover-ups of the multi-national aspartame industry have suffocated every challenge. http://www.soundandfury.tv/pages.rumsfeld2.html
Ten years ago FDA stopped listing victim complaints when they passed 10,000, and FDA no longer admits there ever was a list. It named 92 symptoms including seizures and death. FDA is now NutraSweet's Washington Branch Office, faithfully promoting aspartame and publishing their propaganda, ignoring enormous injury to our people and rejecting a mountain of medical evidence. Who ever heard a Federal agency saying it was wrong? In the showcase of effete corrupt bureaucracies FDA proudly sits right there beside FEMA.
"But aspartame met its match with the EIB!" Says Dr. Betty Martini, of Mission Possible International, "it spurned the outrageous objections of the Calorie Control Council and Ajinomoto, the world's largest manufacturer of aspartame and MSG, against even discussing this grave issue and scheduled an entire week in next July for considering the evidence." Said Cliff Stroud, Vice Chairman of the board: "If the Board does not have the authority to listen to people about concerns with the food supply, then the system is broken." Well, its not broke in New Mexico!
As Winston Churchill said: "This is not the end, but it is the beginning of the end." New Mexico is the first domino, and everybody in the aspartame business knows it. If reason and truth prevail against this most pervasive of all poisons, the health and lives of this great western state shall be protected and preserved by its alert, upright officials. Then the storm surge of resentment by innocent, unwarned and afflicted victims across America shall wash this sewage from our land.
A tremendous fight is coming from the malicious entrenched producers of this chemical weapon of mass destruction that was just named a "multi-potential carcinogen" by Italian researchers after a three-year study. Good government should be applauded. Personally praise and congratulate the members of the Environmental Improvement Board. Get the facts to protect your family and tell everyone you know. Support your legislators! Enter the fray! Few things are exciting as a good fight, and not to fight for what is right is to let evil conquer.
Other heroes to honor: Stephen Fox, the indomitable and relentless Petitioner who put this issue before the EIB and fought for years to decapitate this monster. He's an inspiration to all of citizen activism.
Also, honor the principled and generous Attorney Steven Douglas Looney, who fought pro bono, at his own expense, to valiantly defend the citizens of New Mexico and our first amendment rights of free speech. How fine!
According to the Albuquerque Journal, 10/6, Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico says he supports the decision by the Environmental Improvement Board to hold hearings next summer on aspartame. Governor Richardson could if he so desires ban pop from schools in New Mexico as did the Governor of California. Aspartame is a well known trigger of ADD, ADHD, Tourettes, autism and behavioral problems in children.
MUST READ: Battleground: New Mexico vs Aspartame & Ajinomoto: Washington D.C. Attorney James Turner's reveals who put this poison on your table. Turner contested with Rumsfeld and knows where all the bodies are buried. http://www.wnho.net/nm_vs_ajinomoto.htm
Ecologist UK: The cover story of the September Ecologist magazine, a 17-page expose' of the spider web of controversy and deceit surrounding aspartame's approval by FDA and other regulatory bodies worldwide, and the myriad adverse health effects it produces. http://www.theecologist.org
Two New Studies on Aspartame and Diet Drinks Confirm Source of Obesity, Cancer/Malignant Brain Tumor Epidemics. Neurosurgeon Says Ban Toxin from Schools!
http://www.wnho.net/new_aspartame_studies.htm Update: More data from Italian researchers 3 year study: "Aspartame is a multipotential carcinogen". Kidney cancer and more added.
Aspartame Makers Tell A Whopper! http://www.wnho.net/whopper.htm
Aspartame Violates State and Federal Statutes on Adulteration: Attorney Ed Johnson http://www.rense.com/general67/aspar.htm
Calorie Control Council, (aspartame industry's front group) pushes aspartame on pregnant women with full knowledge it is a teratogen (triggers birth defects) and abortifacient. http://www.wnho.net/mh_aspartame_letter.htm
Aspartame Disease: FDA -Approved Epidemic: http://www.wnho.net/fdaapprovedepidemic.htm
Material Safety Data Sheet on aspartame: Do you want your children consuming this? http://www.wnho.net/aspartame_msds_3.pdf
CD of congressional records including FDA's Board of Inquiry revoking petition for aspartame approval, and world renowned neuroscientist, Dr. John Olney's report to that Board on how aspartame destroys the brains of our children. Contact Bob Flint, Mission Possible Maine, greatfalls@gwi.net
"Sweet Misery: A Poisoned World:" Documentary exposing the whole story. Interviews Diane Fleming falsely imprisoned for poisoning her husband with methanol. Athletes suddenly die from aspartame damage to the cardiac conduction system. Doctors' affidavits after review of autopsy say free this woman, aspartame, liberator of free methyl alcohol, killed him. http://www.docworkers.com
Aspartame Disease: An Ignored Epidemic by H. J. Roberts, M.D., 1038 pages of case histories and diseases triggered by this neurotoxin. http://www.sunsentpress.com
Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills by renowned neurosurgeon Russell Blaylock, M.D., http://www.russellblaylockmd.com
Dr. Betty Martini
Founder, Mission Possible International
9270 River Club Parkway
Duluth, Georgia 30097
770-242-2599
http://www.dorway.com
http://www.wnho.net

sapphire630 answered on 01/09/06:

I have been telling people for years that
aspartame causes parkinson and MS type symptoms and as usual nobody believes a world I say.
Then people think just because they are eatting diet they can eat 3 times as much.
As for the MSG I started realizing I can't eat anything with MSG about 4 years ago.
Adios Lays mesquite chips. I kept wondering why I kept feeling disoriented and almost paralyzed after I would eat chips or chicken kabobs at the flea market. Then I realized it was the MSG.

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Choux asked on 01/07/06 - Robertson and Ahmadinejad

""CHRISTIAN television evangelist Pat Robertson and the president of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, have a well-established affinity for the outrageous. This time their mutual embrace of indecency places them in a category all to themselves. As Ariel Sharon lies hospitalized and critically incapacitated by a massive stroke, Mr. Robertson, one of America's best-known religious extremists, and his Iranian counterpart -- no slouch when it comes to religious demagoguery -- suggested that Israel's prime minister had it coming.

As Mr. Robertson was offering up his thoughts about a man fighting for his life, Iran's president was expressing unrestrained hope that Mr. Sharon would simply die.

Pat Robertson and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad are probably beyond the point where they can be reached by embarrassment or shame. But they are not beyond the kind of strong condemnation that they have richly earned. We need not recite the records of contemptible remarks made by both men in the past. There is little reason to believe that either will cease his disgraceful behavior. Mr. Ahmadinejad, the president of a country with a lamentable human rights record and a nuclear program, is dangerous, where Mr. Robertson is only pathetic. But they share a self-righteousness that blinds them to the distance that they have placed between themselves and the majority of people who find their remarks repulsive. It's sufficient to know, we suppose, that at a time when messages of hope are flowing from around the world to the bedside of Ariel Sharon, Pat Robertson and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad still have each other."" Editorial Washington Post

sapphire630 answered on 01/09/06:

I went to a church one time where the preacher preached that the other preachers in the same non-denomination were in the hospital with heart problems because they made remarks against him on the radio as well as from the pulpit....Though he didn't think anything of it when he had to go to the hospital for his heart. I suppose he just attributed his heart problem to his gluttonus addiction to fetticine alfredo as well as his being 200 lbs over weight.

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excon asked on 01/08/06 - Supporting the troops - yeah right.


Hello Christians:

I asked this question on the politics board, but I wanted to find out what real Christians thought.

Yeah, I support the troops too. But, instead of putting a bumper sticker on my car (so my neighbors will think highly of me), I wrote to my congressmen and demanded they give the Marines the body armor they needed to save lives.

Well, they didn't. I dunno why. Maybe they needed the money for a submarine or something.

And, your boy's died.....

So, what are you GOING TO DO, about your governments laze fare interest in your sons lives? Put a bumper sticker on your car?

excon

sapphire630 answered on 01/09/06:

wake up con dear!
Just like New Orleans using money to have a fancy fountain instead of a necessary levy.
And now the lady governor, mayor (or whoever she is)wants to spend 55,000. on frosted windows and redecorating her office with the money for the levys.
The congressmen would rather have pay raises and expensive lunches than use money for something that makes sense....but then again maybe it doesn't make sense cause they claim the extra weight slows them down.
So I KNOW Nut-inG!

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paraclete asked on 01/03/06 - Well it's offical it's hotter here

It's official: last year was hottest ever


January 4, 2006 - 12:28PM
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Last year was Australia's hottest on record, new figures show.

The Bureau of Meteorology annual climate summary shows 2005 was more than one degree warmer than the average temperature between 1961 and 1990, the world standard used to track temperature change.

The figures, released today, have forced the federal government to defend its action on climate change and global warming.

Federal Environment Minister Ian Campbell says he recognises climate change is the biggest modern-day environmental challenge.

"I think that climate change is alarming," he told ABC radio.

"I regard climate change as the number one environmental challenge.

"The government's spending hundreds of millions of dollars through the Natural Heritage Trust, for example, on trying to maintain Australia's biodiversity, fix our rivers, maintain our forest cover.

"All of these programs will become worthless if we don't as a globe address climate change.

"It is a huge and serious challenge.

"These figures add to the weight of evidence that climate change is real and it's a problem that the world needs to work together to seek to solve."

Australia and the United States are the only developed nations to have refused to sign the Kyoto Protocol, which calls on countries to cut greenhouse emissions by 5.2 per cent below 1990 levels by 2012.

Instead, the federal government has joined Australia up to a regional partnership designed to address global warming with better technology.

The Asia-Pacific Partnership on Clean Development and Climate, which includes the US, Japan, China, India and South Korea, is due to meet for the first time in Sydney later this month.

It has been roundly criticised by environmentalists as a smokescreen to cover up a lack of real action.

But Senator Campbell said technological change was essential.

"If we don't bring forward the technologies that allow us to produce energy, but do so with much much lower greenhouse gas emissions then we won't solve the problem."

The government argues Kyoto will not work because it does not commit developing nations to reducing emissions.

"Kyoto excludes most of the emissions in the world. It only covers just over a third of the countries of the world and ... we need something that includes all countries of the world," he said.

The Bureau of Meteorology (BoM) climate summary shows Australia's average temperature in 2005 was 22.89, 1.09 degrees Celsius above the international standard.

But last year is also likely to be one of the hottest years on record globally.
The Bureau says preliminary figures show the global temperature was around 0.48 degrees above average in 2005.

񓟵 is going to be pretty close to the warmest year on record," the Bureau's Blair Trewin said.

In Australia, there have been some tangible changes as a result of rising temperatures.

"We've seen things like the general retreat of the winter snow line. We've seen a marked decrease in the frequency of frost, especially in inland Queensland," Dr Trewin said.

"We've seen an increase in the number of extreme hot days."

And the warming trend is likely to continue.

"All the projections we have from climate models we would expect to see continued warming through the 21st century," he said.

"Numbers like this ... are another piece of evidence that climate change is real and it's a real issue."

AAP

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Ain't life wonderful? We need experts to tell us it's hot. I could have told them that, and for no fee. Science is wonderful, it produces sets of numbers that justify almost anything as if this were revelation itself. Like it's isn't a revelation it hasn't snowed here in years, despite all the historical photographs we have with snow on the ground. What I want to know is waht are we good Christian people doing about it. Why should Christians do something? because noone else is, we should capture the niche market immediately. Let's face it, this could be the new Church growth syndrome. we could sweep the world with our Gospel of salvation and lower emissions thrown in.

sapphire630 answered on 01/04/06:

the summer of 88 was the hottest here.
This winter has been pretty warm.
I can't grin big enough about it!!!

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paraclete asked on 01/03/06 - What I would like to know is what earthly good is the result of this research?

World largest prime number identified

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January 4, 2006 - 3:10PM

Researchers at a Missouri university have identified the largest known prime number, officials said.

The team at Central Missouri State University, led by associate dean Steven Boone and mathematics professor Curtis Cooper, found it in mid-December after programming 700 computers years ago.

A prime number is a positive number divisible by only itself and 1 - 2, 3, 5, 7 and so on.

The number that the team found is 9.1 million digits long.

It is a Mersenne prime known as M30402457 - that's 2 to the 30,402,457th power minus 1.

Mersenne primes are a special category expressed as 2 to the "p" power minus 1, in which "p" also is a prime number.

"We're super excited," Boone, a chemistry professor, said today.

"We've been looking for such a number for a long time."

The discovery is affiliated with the Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search, a global contest using volunteers who run software that searches for the largest Mersenne prime.

AP

sapphire630 answered on 01/04/06:

They can always add one more or multiple their *highest* number; so to me it is just an excuse for them to waste money on stupid research.

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STONY asked on 01/04/06 - I HAVE A NEW YEARS RESOLUTION...

AND IT HAS WORKED FOR 15 YEARS. I WILL DO MY BEST TO STAY OUT OF JAIL FOR ANOTHER YEAR..........

sapphire630 answered on 01/04/06:

That's as good as my resolution of resolving that I do not want to die a painful death....no bullets, no drowning, no fire!

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Erewhon asked on 01/04/06 - How black-hearted is it possible to be, and how low has a person sunk when they find murder acceptab



Regarding the missionaries shot in Chesapeake, a 'person' wrote:

01/04/06 Choux

It's come to this.

"Getting rid of pushy religious zealots peddling their brand of religion door to door is difficult as we all know....guess we have to shoot them dead to send a message!:


How black-hearted is it possible to be, and how low has a person sunk when they find murder an acceptable substitute for their lack of interpersonal skills?



Do they still qualify as human beings after they have become so degraded and insensitive?



sapphire630 answered on 01/04/06:

The people that keep yelling kill the Christians and Jews are the same people that preach peace, diversity and tolerance to all!

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cavil asked on 01/03/06 - How would you prove Jesus existed?

If you were in the same situation as Father Enrico Righi how would you prove that Jesus existed?
Think about that.
It must be done in a court of law where various kinds of evidence are accepted and others rejected.
But it’s the type that is usually accepted that counts in most courts.
There are several books and letters in the Bible that can not be shown to be here say. Which ones would you use and how?
Also is there anything in the book of Acts that is helpful in that regard. Think about it.
There is much physical evidence of Jesus’ existence. Do you know what they are and how to use them?
Then there is the huge amount of circumstantial evidence has adds much weight when linked to the other evidence available.
All that together in a fair court of law will win the case.
Have a good, generous, and prosperous New Year,
Cavil

sapphire630 answered on 01/03/06:

I gave up trying to prove points on anything to people long ago cause they either don't want to believe or they do not care. People do not even believe current events...just look at the extremes of the dems and reps. Some people do not even believe the Holocaust ever happened.
People don't even believe Elvis is dead.
So it is simple faith...you believe or you don't

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Choux asked on 01/01/06 - Spewing Hatred

The following is a comment ATON made to my response about Mark Fuhrman, the detective, with a checkered past. ATON doesn't seem to understand that a person can read about something without agreeing with what is said! LOL!!

IN addition, he seems to think that he can hurt me, his intention, with his personal attacks like the one below. He can't hurt me. I care nothing positive for him because of his personal attacks which began off and on in earnest about 15 months ago.

"""Haven't you cluttered up your brain with ENOUGH garbage without adding a liar, conniver, and racist to your list of 'must reads'..Relly, Mary Sue, you need to stop hopping on every bandwagon that comes down the pike...It makes you look like someone with no set opinions of your old..but one that will follow any wind that will allow you to villify others. Shame on you for wasting what is left of your life with penny-ante crap."""


Pretty nasty stuff. I can't even ***think of reading true life detective book*** without getting this kind of venemous spewing.

Mary Sue

sapphire630 answered on 01/03/06:

:) thanx & God bless you too.

I have had more lives (transistions) than a cat in the past 50 years.....yeesh, I don't know if that is a positive or a negative.

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Itsdb asked on 01/03/06 - Prove Christ exists, judge orders priest

From Richard Owen in Rome

AN ITALIAN judge has ordered a priest to appear in court this month to prove that Jesus Christ existed.

The case against Father Enrico Righi has been brought in the town of Viterbo, north of Rome, by Luigi Cascioli, a retired agronomist who once studied for the priesthood but later became a militant atheist.

Signor Cascioli, author of a book called The Fable of Christ, began legal proceedings against Father Righi three years ago after the priest denounced Signor Cascioli in the parish newsletter for questioning Christ’s historical existence.

Yesterday Gaetano Mautone, a judge in Viterbo, set a preliminary hearing for the end of this month and ordered Father Righi to appear. The judge had earlier refused to take up the case, but was overruled last month by the Court of Appeal, which agreed that Signor Cascioli had a reasonable case for his accusation that Father Righi was “abusing popular credulity”.

Signor Cascioli’s contention — echoed in numerous atheist books and internet sites — is that there was no reliable evidence that Jesus lived and died in 1st-century Palestine apart from the Gospel accounts, which Christians took on faith. There is therefore no basis for Christianity, he claims.

Signor Cascioli’s one-man campaign came to a head at a court hearing last April when he lodged his accusations of “abuse of popular credulity” and “impersonation”, both offences under the Italian penal code. He argued that all claims for the existence of Jesus from sources other than the Bible stem from authors who lived “after the time of the hypothetical Jesus” and were therefore not reliable witnesses.

Signor Cascioli maintains that early Christian writers confused Jesus with John of Gamala, an anti-Roman Jewish insurgent in 1st-century Palestine. Church authorities were therefore guilty of “substitution of persons”.

The Roman historians Tacitus and Suetonius mention a “Christus” or “Chrestus”, but were writing “well after the life of the purported Jesus” and were relying on hearsay.

Father Righi said there was overwhelming testimony to Christ’s existence in religious and secular texts. Millions had in any case believed in Christ as both man and Son of God for 2,000 years.

“If Cascioli does not see the sun in the sky at midday, he cannot sue me because I see it and he does not,” Father Righi said.

Signor Cascioli said that the Gospels themselves were full of inconsistencies and did not agree on the names of the 12 apostles. He said that he would withdraw his legal action if Father Righi came up with irrefutable proof of Christ’s existence by the end of the month.

The Vatican has so far declined to comment.

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Comments? Predictions on the outcome?

sapphire630 answered on 01/03/06:

Prediction:
Whether or not the Vatican comments..Outcome will be those who believe will still believe and those who don't, won't.
I do have a hard time believing there are sunny tropical islands because I am use to the gloomy rainy hazy days. So I can understand not seeing the sun in the sky at midday, he cannot sue me because I see it and he does not,” Father Righi said.

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ATON2 asked on 12/30/05 - Can a non-sectarian on the Christianity board teach Judaism to an Orthodox Jew?

This one is particularly for Choux, whose big mouth sometimes leads her up the garden path, for drgade and paraclete, who followed her up that path with their mangled attempts at Yiddishisms, and for ETWOLVERINE who started the whole megilla by disputing ATON'S claim that beheading was an accepted form of execution under Jewish law (long before it was adopted by Islam).

From "Tractate Sanhedrin"....Chapter Seven

Mishna (1) Tanna Kamma: There are four types of execution; Stoning, burning, slaying (by the sword) and strangulation.

Rabbi Shimon changes the order to: Burning, stoning, strangulation and slaying.

G'marra (2) RebPapa/Rev: The Mishna list is in order of descending severity. (3) Ordinarily when the Mishna lists categories, the order is not binding.

Re: [1]: There are four forms of execution

Margoliyo haYam: Aside from naming the four forms of execution, the Mishna states, "There are four types of execution," to signify that each type of execution is counted as a separate mitzva.

Re: [2]

Rashi: It is important to know which execution is most severe because if a person committs two capital crimes which carry different forms of execution, he is put to death in the more severe fashion.


Mishna

[21] "Hereg" consisted of the person's HEAD BEING DECAPITATED by the Sword.

Reb.Yehuda: His head was laid on a block and it was severed by an ax.

G'mara

[22] Death by the sword is preferable to death by the ax. Notwithstanding, R.Yehuda rules out this form of death because he considers it "following the precepts of the nations". Rabbanan beleives that since death by the sword is mentioned in Scripture, this form of death would NOT be considered as "following a precept of the nations of the world."

[23]...a murderer receives death by the sword.....

[24]".....death occurs through a sword's breaking the neck

NOTE: Stabbing (as suggested by Wolverine is excluded...

Re: [23] Ramah: Stabbing is excluded because...it implies that the condemed should be executed with ONE edge of a sword and a stabbing cuts with BOTH edges.

Re: Not by gist'ra

Rashi(Chulin 27a): "This means severing the head with one blow".

Ramah: "It means to cut the person in half from head to toe. This is ruled out because it is exceedingly disgusting."

Note: this is probabley the excuse Wolverine is trying to use to claims Jews did not behead, because they found it disgusting. He is wrong again....as usual. :) :) :)

ERGO: Being an Orthodox Jew obviously does not qualify one as an expert in Talmud...just as being a born-again Christian does not qualify one as an expert in the Bible. Study and learning, on the other hand, makes ATON an expert in both. LOL

CHUTZPAH has it's own rewards :) :) :)

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sapphire630 answered on 01/03/06:

All I have to say is ETWOLVERINE is Jewish

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arcura asked on 12/30/05 - What rights do parents have about public schools teaching a religion?

A federal appeals court is being asked to reconsider its ruling that allows public schools to teach junior high students how to "become Muslims." The Thomas More Law Center, a national public-interest law firm based in Ann Arbor, Michigan, is asking the entire Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals to rule on what can be done in public schools with regard to teaching Islam and other religions.

Several parents sued California's Byron Union School District for requiring their 7th-grade children to participate in a three-week class activity in which they not only had to study important Islamic figures and wear traditional Muslim attire, but were also required to observe the "five pillars" of the Islamic faith, adopt Muslim names, recite a portion of a Muslim prayer, and even stage their own "jihad" or "holy war." The plaintiffs' attorney, the Thomas More Law Center's Ed White, believes the school district violated the parents' and children's constitutional rights to free exercise of religion.

Earlier, White had asked a three-judge panel of the Ninth Circuit to overturn a previous San Francisco federal district court's ruling that the Byron Union School District did not violate the U.S. Constitution. However, the Ninth Circuit panel of judges upheld the lower court's determination in a brief, unpublished memorandum decision.

In that ruling, however, the panel overlooked and failed to rule on the plaintiff's claims that their free exercise and parental rights had been violated. The Thomas More Law Center has asked the three-judge panel to reconsider their decision and to issue a ruling on the claims not previously addressed. The Law Center has also asked all 24 active judges on the Ninth Circuit to consider and rule on the case.

White says the Byron Union School District never informed the parents about an exercise that would be grading their children on how well they observed the tenets of Islam. In fact, he points out, "The parents were never told that there was even a way to opt their child out of such an activity."

Actually, the only way the parents found out about the school's Islamic exercise, the attorney points out, was virtually by accident. He says a Byron Union District mom was "looking through her son's book bag and asked, 'Hey, what's all this stuff?' and the kid said, 'Oh, we're doing this in school now.' So the parents objected, but it was after the class [activity] was over."

So it was after the fact that parents learned how, for three weeks in 2001, their children were told they would "become Muslims" and had worn identification tags bearing their new Muslim names along with the Star and Crescent Moon symbols of Islam. The children received materials telling them to "Remember Allah always so that you may prosper," and they made banners to hang in the classroom, inscribing them with the Basmala, a phrase from the Koran used in Muslim prayers that is translated, "In the name of Allah, the Merciful, the Compassionate."

Richard Thompson, chief counsel of the Thomas More Law Center, was disappointed by the San Francisco district court's ruling and the Ninth Circuit panel's decision to uphold it. He commented that if students had been instructed on Christianity in the same manner as they were on Islam in this case, the court would most likely have found a constitutional violation.

Ed White agrees. The parents' lawyer says the courts should not be allowing this apparent double standard on the teaching of religion in public schools. When the Byron Union School District's teachers taught the children other religions in the seventh grade," he asserts, "they didn't go into any of these activities. When they taught Buddhism or Christianity, they didn't engage in these simulations [of Islamic observances]. They didn't have to practice the faith, memorize various parts of the Bible, et cetera."

White has filed a petition for a rehearing of the case before the entire Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. Chief counsel Richard Thompson says the appellate court needs to clarify in a published opinion just how far public schools can go in teaching about religion.

sapphire630 answered on 01/03/06:

A lot of schools are fighting that they have more rights than the parents. They say that when it is between the parebnts and the schools the schools have the best interest of the child over the parents. I was listening to a debate over should the schools teach sex education to the children even if a parent objects and wants their child excluded. It was pretty much the same and I think it involved the ninth circuit too.

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ATON2 asked on 01/01/06 - Greetings!

To friends, foes, and sundry....(You sundries know who you are)...May 2006 exceed your wildest expectations. May you receive all that you deserve. And may it see all of you mellower, less warlike, and less antagonistic to your cyber brothers and sisters.
More I cannot wish you :) :) :)

sapphire630 answered on 01/03/06:


I was off to a good start up until the middle of August. It was all downhill from there. I hope this year is better and I can keep the momentum up for the entire year.

receive all that you deserve----remember in the Aladdin movie where the old guy says something like 'recieve your just rewards'---can be taken either way
LOL
:)

You and your family have the Happiest New Year ever too!!!

luv
sapph

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excon asked on 01/01/06 - Broke my back, alright


Hello Christians:

Good morning and Happy all that crap.

Given my pro gay marriage stance, I'm sure it may come as a surprise, but I'm not gonna see Brokeback Mountain.

I dunno, maybe I am a homophobe. In 2006, I don't mind seeing gay guys walking down the street holding hands. But I just cannot fathom, cowboys, the men who tamed the west, the men who every little boy wanted to be, poking each other.

Now, I know they did, but I don't wanna see it. It's just wrong.

excon

sapphire630 answered on 01/03/06:

As usual I have to agree with you con. It is not wrong to not want to see the movie. Just because you are pro something doesn't mean you have to run and see or do everything that supports it.

I'd rather sit back and watch 2 hours of Queer Eye for the straight guy than

gay cowboys----does sound *queer* to me!

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Choux asked on 01/01/06 - Spewing Hatred

The following is a comment ATON made to my response about Mark Fuhrman, the detective, with a checkered past. ATON doesn't seem to understand that a person can read about something without agreeing with what is said! LOL!!

IN addition, he seems to think that he can hurt me, his intention, with his personal attacks like the one below. He can't hurt me. I care nothing positive for him because of his personal attacks which began off and on in earnest about 15 months ago.

"""Haven't you cluttered up your brain with ENOUGH garbage without adding a liar, conniver, and racist to your list of 'must reads'..Relly, Mary Sue, you need to stop hopping on every bandwagon that comes down the pike...It makes you look like someone with no set opinions of your old..but one that will follow any wind that will allow you to villify others. Shame on you for wasting what is left of your life with penny-ante crap."""


Pretty nasty stuff. I can't even ***think of reading true life detective book*** without getting this kind of venemous spewing.

Mary Sue

sapphire630 answered on 01/03/06:

Funny how my favorites here are very much opposites!....Or some say too much alike???
:)

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ROLCAM asked on 01/01/06 - 2006 New Year's Resolutions ??

Are you prepared to share with us ,one of your New Year's Resolutions ??

I intend to choose my words carefully in future
not to be hurtful to anyone.

rolcam.

sapphire630 answered on 01/03/06:

My New Years resolution is one that can not be broken>>>>my resolution is don't make any!

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Choux asked on 12/21/05 - Burka Ban

From BBC dot uk:::

"The Dutch immigration minister says she will look into the legality of banning the burqa, the robes worn by some Muslim women to cover their bodies.

Rita Verdonk made the pledge after a majority in parliament said it would support such a ban.

The proposal was put forward by independent politician Geert Wilders.

"That women should walk the streets in a totally unrecognisable manner is an insult to everyone who believes in equal rights," he said.

"This law is a comfort to moderate Muslims and will contribute to integration in the Netherlands," he added in a statement."


sapphire630 answered on 12/22/05:

I really do not have a problem with the burkas in the street. I think they should have the right to decide for themselves if and when they want to wear it or not.
But I do feel they do not have a right to wear them when it is concealing their identy. Such as the case where the woman wanted to wear it for her drivers license.

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Choux asked on 12/21/05 - Our Evolutionary Cousins

There is nothing Intelligently Designed(Christianity tie-in)about Menopause! :)

Yahoo News::CHICAGO - Jenny, Shamba, Timbo, Beta and Elaine are zoo gorillas, but they have something in common with millions of women: They have undergone menopause.

A study of gorillas at 17 North American zoos, led by Chicago's Brookfield Zoo, is the first to document gorilla menopause, researchers not involved in the study said.

The findings may help zoos improve how they care for aging female gorillas and change the way evolutionary biologists think about menopause in humans.

The study also may provoke a few chuckles along the way."


This is a make a joke question! Ready, go....

sapphire630 answered on 12/22/05:

I think further studies must be done...
comparison of the average males and primates that put up with the menopausal!

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HANK1 asked on 12/22/05 - Are we destined to be the same forever?

I've always been impressed by the movements of clouds. They, too, offer us riddles of sorts. Some just lay there and sleep. Others dance to the sounds of trouble while outstripping the wind. All are true pictures of reality. What, one wonders, can be done to change their destinies.We do not hate them. Nor do we condone their perplexity, even though their personalities can effect the presence of tomorrow's rainbow. The skies do not offer us a choice. They exist for themselves by offering us a complex picture of actuality. Clouds are like air -- they're always up there --- somewhere. It's up to us to deal directly with the results of their functions.

Citation: "Never A Toadstool" - by HANK1 (page 7)

Are you a CLOUD?

HANK

sapphire630 answered on 12/22/05:

If I iz it certainly ain't one with a silver lining....and most I know are cloud 9!

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Itsdb asked on 12/22/05 - News of the strange

A change of pace...

Letterman fights restraining order

IndyStar.com Entertainment
December 22, 2005

Lawyers for David Letterman want a judge to quash a restraining order granted to a Santa Fe, N.M., woman who contends the CBS late-night host used code words to show he wanted to marry her and train her as his co-host.

A state judge granted a temporary restraining order to Colleen Nestler, who alleged in a request filed Dec. 15 that Letterman has forced her to go bankrupt and caused her "mental cruelty" and "sleep deprivation" since May 1994.

Nestler requested that Letterman, who tapes his show in New York, stay at least 3 yards away and not "think of me, and release me from his mental harassment and hammering."

Lawyers for Letterman, in a motion filed Tuesday, contend the order is without merit and asked state District Judge Daniel Sanchez to quash it.

"Celebrities deserve protection of their reputation and legal rights when the occasional fan becomes dangerous or deluded," lawyer Pat Rogers wrote in the motion.

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Couldn't the judge have just told her to change channels?

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Feds Give Santa OK To Make Christmas Rounds
Mineta: Elves Are Tough Negotiators

POSTED: 2:18 pm EST December 21, 2005

WASHINGTON -- The federal government is trying to make Santa Claus' job a little easier and safer when he makes the rounds this Christmas Eve.

Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta said an open skies agreement with the North Pole gives Santa the go-ahead to deliver Christmas presents without having to worry about government paperwork.

Santa's reindeer will be allowed to legally land on the roofs of homes throughout the United States.

For years, Santa had been required to make an annual request to the Secretary of Transportation for a special flight certificate in order to deliver his Christmas goodies. With this new agreement, it will be easier for Santa to finish his job all in one night.

"Now it's just ho ho ho, and off I go," Santa Claus said. "The reindeer and I look forward to checking this item off of our list for good."

Mineta said the agreement also gives Santa more time to check his list without having to worry about Uncle Sam.

"Thanks to this agreement, the only time he needs to worry about red tape is if he wants to use it to wrap presents," Mineta said. "Santa's elves are tough negotiators. But, in the end, we were able to arrive at an agreement that will benefit children of all ages."

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Who said the US government isn't addressing issues that matter?

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MAN DATES GAL ON INTERNET FOR SIX MONTHS -- AND IT TURNS OUT SHE'S HIS MOTHER!
Friday December 9, 2005

By Grace Green

MARSEILLES, France -- Skirt-chasing playboy Daniel Anceneaux spent weeks talking with a sensual woman on the Internet before arranging a romantic rendezvous at a remote beach -- and discovering that his on-line sweetie of six months was his own mother!

"I walked out on that dark beach thinking I was going to hook up with the girl of my dreams," the rattled bachelor later admitted. "And there she was, wearing white shorts and a pink tank top, just like she'd said she would.

"But when I got close, she turned around -- and we both got the shock of our lives. I mean, I didn't know what to say. All I could think was, 'Oh my God! it's Mama!' "

But the worst was yet to come. Just as the mortified mother and son realized the error of their ways, a patrolman passed by and cited them for visiting a restricted beach after dark.

"Danny and I were so flustered, we blurted out the whole story to the cop," recalled matronly mom Nicole, 52. "The policeman wrote a report, a local TV station got hold of it -- and the next thing we knew, our picture and our story was all over the 6 o'clock news. "People started pointing and laughing at us on the street -- and they haven't stopped laughing since."

The girl-crazy X-ray technician said he began flirting with normally straitlaced Nicole -- who lives six miles away in a Marseilles suburb -- while scouring the Internet for young ladies to put a little pizzazz in his life.

"Mom called herself Sweet Juliette and I called myself The Prince of Pleasure, and unfortunately, neither one of us had any idea who the other was," said flabbergasted Daniel.

"The conversations even got a little racy a couple of times.

"But I really started to fall for her, because there seemed to be a sensitive side that you don't see in many girls.

"She sent me poems she had written and told me about her dreams and desires, and it was really very romantic.

"The truth is, I got to see a side of my mom I'd never seen before. I'm grateful for that."

When starry-eyed Daniel asked Sweet Juliette to send him a picture, Nicole e-mailed him a photo of a curvy, half-clad cutie she'd scanned from a men's magazine.

"The girl in the picture was so beautiful, I begged Juliette to meet me on the beach -- and Mom said yes," he recalled. "Mom says she was falling for me, too, and she just wanted to meet me, even though she knew I'd be disappointed when I saw her.

"As for me, I figured I was going to find the girl of my dreams.

"I guess that's about as wrong as I've ever been."

Daniel admits he and his mother could do little but stammer and stutter around each other for days after their cyberspace exploits came to light. And his father Paul -- Nicole's husband of 27 years -- wasn't too happy when the story hit the news and his beer-drinking buddies made him the butt of their jokes.

"Dad was ticked for a while and he forbid Mom to talk to anybody on the Internet ever again," said embarrassed Daniel.

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That's gotta hurt.

sapphire630 answered on 12/22/05:

Letterman? I can't imagine him harrassing even a fly!

Yuck! Can you imagine your mama talking like that to anyone! Let alone her actually going to meet.....the prince of pleasure.....yugh!?

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hOPE12 asked on 12/22/05 - Recent News:

Hello Everyone,

Two days ago a Chauk aircraft blew up and crashed, killing twenty people. Among them three infants.

What could you say to the family of these people that would comfort them? Please be serious and think about what you would say to them, because I am collecting a number of encouraging thoughts to send to the local news people here in North Miami Beach Florida. This is where the Crash took place. The local news media will be sure they receive these words of comfort, so please be discerning as to your encouragement.

My heart goes out to the family of these twenty people and I wanted to do something that will help them to deal with their greif, so I will be sending all the encouraging words from you guys as well as other groups I belong to. The media will either print the words of encouragment or report it on the television.

Thanks for you time and efforts.
Hope12

sapphire630 answered on 12/22/05:

Truthfully they do NOT want to hear people saying things like I know how you feel. It is
more important to say something more along the lines that you coulc never image how they feel and that losing a child surely has to be the worst thing a person could ever go through.
Other than that words just do not comfort in lose of loved ones.

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hOPE12 asked on 12/22/05 - Is this a cult, or some fad, or is it a sickness?

Hello Everyone,

We all have knowledge of some who inflict injury on themself. Som of this may include, cutting or self mutilation There are many throughtout the world with this problem. Some even use razors, and are hospitalized or taken to emergency rooms due to the severe cuts and abuses. One persons, even said, she knew God didn't like her to do this, but she just can't stop it." It's the only way I can cope with my stress." After I cut myself, it feels like a big weight has been lifted off of me."

1- What is this behavior?
2- How do your feel God views it?
3- Why are the highest persons who do this, young teenageers?
4_ Can you offer some better ways of copeing with the distressing feeling these ones get?

Take care,
Hope12

sapphire630 answered on 12/22/05:

It is some sort of high.
These are a few things they have themselves believing:
1. They get so depressed they cut themselves and the pyshical pain dimishes the mental pain so they do not 'feel' their mental anguish.
2. They have themselves believing they are no good and it is all the better they deserve.
3. They feel it is how otrhers feel about them so they will take it out on themselves so others don't have to 'bother' since they aren't worth it anyway.

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STONY asked on 12/21/05 - I USUALLY DON'T DO THIS, BUT....

I ASKED ATON A QUESTION AND GOT SUCKED INTO A WAR BETWEEN IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYONE. SO, FOR THE PRESENT I WILL NOT RESPOND TO THE ANSWERS OR COMMENTS MADE. THE QUESTION WAS TO ATON, IT WAS NOT POSTED AS A SOUNDING BOARD FOR EVERYONE'S PRIVATE LITTLE WARS.

........SORRY THAT'S JUST HOW I FEEL TODAY.

sapphire630 answered on 12/21/05:

It's all cool...we may infight but we all love each other ...what would Christmas be without our dis-functional family!

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Itsdb asked on 12/21/05 - Who will protect your freedoms?

If not Bush, who? The Democrats? The Media? Not if past performance is any indication...

Anyone remember a story about John and Alice Martin, who on December 21st, 1996 I believe, just happened to be driving to do some shopping with their police scanner going and a tape recorder in the car? These two Democrats from Florida happened to pick up a conference call by Congressman John Boehner, Majority Leader Dick Armey, Republican Whip Tom Delay, New York Congressman Bill Paxon, and House Speaker Newt Gingrich on their scanner, and just happened to have that recorder in the car so they started taping..

What did the Martins do next? Why they turned the tape over to Florida Congresswoman Karen Thurman, and later to Congressman Jim McDermott, the ranking Democrat on the Ethics Committee.

Two days after McDermott received the tape a transcript of the call appeared on the front page of the NY Times.

The Martins I believe were eventually fined $500 each for their offense, while the leak to the press was protected by freedom of speech as the recordings were a matter of "important public interest."

In the previous administration, furnishing the press with illegally obtained electronic communications was a matter of "important public interest," unless you're Linda Tripp of course, and publishing transcripts of illegally obtained electronic communications at the time was I suppose a higher moral calling?

Have the Dems and the Times repented of their sins and mended their ways so they can now preach the utter contempt we should have for CIA leaks and civil rights violations with a clean heart? Does any of this outrage over Bush's eavesdropping on international calls of suspected terrorists really have anything to do with protecting your civil liberties?

Steve

sapphire630 answered on 12/21/05:

Freedom will be out the door within the next 10 years. It will be the Orwellian Big Brother and you will have to take the chip.
I think it was also Orwell that said one day Russia would be free from communism and the USA would lose freedom. Nobody believed Russia would be free from communism until it happened; and they aren't going to believe their freedom will be totally gone someday.
In 20 years kids will be telling their kids the concept of the good old days when there was freedom.

so take the chip or fight for freedom it is and will be up to us even once the *mark* is forced on us

I have said all along the electronic stuff with free points earning, GPS to find your kids and protect them, chips to find your dog, etc... is only window dressing to lool us into accepting the very thing that they are setting up to us against us one day.

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arcura asked on 12/20/05 - You might want to send this to all your e-mail friends.

To All My Online Friends:

As the holidays approach, my heartfelt appreciation goes out to all of you who have taken the time and trouble to send me "forwards" over the past 12 months. Thank you for making me feel safe, secure, blessed, and wealthy.

Extra thanks to whoever sent me the one about rat crap in the glue on envelopes 'cause I now have to go get a wet towel every time I need to seal an envelope.

Also, I scrub the top of every can I open for the same reason.

Because of your concern I no longer drink Coca Cola because it can remove toilet stains.

I no longer drink Pepsi or Dr Pepper since the people who make these products are atheists who refuse to put "Under God" on their cans.

I no longer use Saran wrap in the microwave because it causes cancer.

I no longer check the coin return on pay phones because I could be pricked with a needle infected with AIDS.

I no longer use cancer-causing deodorants even though I smell like a water buffalo on a hot day.

I no longer go to shopping malls because someone might drug me with a perfume sample and rob me.

I no longer receive packages from nor send packages by UPS or Fed Ex since they are actually Al Qaeda in disguise.

I no longer answer the phone because someone will ask me to dial a number for which I will get a phone bill with calls to Jamaica, Uganda , Singapore , and Uzbekistan.

I no longer eat KFC because their "chickens" are actually horrible mutant freaks with no eyes or feathers.

I no longer have any sneakers -- but that will change once I receive my free replacement pair from Nike.

I no longer have to buy expensive cookies from Neiman Marcus since I now have their recipe.

I no longer worry about my soul because at last count I have 363,214 angels looking out for me.

Thanks to you, I have learned that God only answers my prayers if I forward an e-mail to seven of my friends and make a wish within five minutes.

I no longer have any savings because I gave it to a sick girl who is about to die in the hospital (for the 1,387,258th time)

I no longer have any money at all - but that will change once I receive the $15,000 that Microsoft and AOL are sending me for participating in their special email program.

Yes, I want to thank you so much for looking out for me that I will now return the favor!

If you don't send this e-mail to at least 144,000 people in the next 7 minutes, a large pigeon with a wicked case of diarrhea will land on your head at 5:00 PM (EST) this afternoon. I know this will occur because it actually happened to a friend of my next-door neighbor's ex-mother-in-law's second husband's cousin's beautician.

Merry Christmas in Advance!!

Your Pal

sapphire630 answered on 12/21/05:

Because of your concern I no longer drink Coca Cola because it can remove toilet stains. I drink 60 oz a day and it doesn't do a thing to my toilet.

I no longer eat KFC because their "chickens" are actually horrible mutant freaks with no eyes or feathers.
Definitely can taste the diference since they started mutating them.

free replacement pair from Nike? Please tell me how?

I no longer have to buy expensive cookies from Neiman Marcus since I now have their recipe. I had a pair of shoes from Neiman
my dog ate them before I got their cookie recipe.

God only answers my prayers if I forward an e-mail to seven of my friends and make a wish within five minutes.
No wonder my luck is so bad I haven't e-mailed in about 3 years.


Pigeons? I could use the company!


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BeelzeBUSH asked on 12/20/05 - Guardian Angels?

According to Arcura, and perhaps other experts as well, everyone has a guardian angel. Fred has mentioned that his personally assigned angel's name is "Tim." I really don't know how often Tim and Fred visit together...daily, only on Sundays, visitation rights every other weekend, or when? Do guardian angles swim, have backyard bar-b-ques, help shovel snow in the winter, Bible studies, or what? Do others also know the name of their own guardian angel? If so, please share. Just for the record, if I have one, perhaps I need to give him a motivational speech. There's just not enough time in the week to get everything done for him not be helping out more. Sometimes I refer to my wife as an angel because she often acts in kindness, but that's been as close as I've come to actually seeing, hearing, or speaking to one.



I love myself,
George


sapphire630 answered on 12/21/05:

I promised my guardian angels a Texas size Bar-b-que if I could only have my truck running. Now since my mechanic rolled my truck, I suppose that means it was one of the worst offers they ever heard.

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Itsdb asked on 12/21/05 - Just following his lead again?

For all the noise on Bush's eavesdropping scandal, people tend to forget - or still don't know - his predecessor was on watch while your civil rights, make that the world's civil rights, were being eroded...

Listening In

The U.S.-led ECHELON spy network
is eavesdropping on the whole world


by Jason Vest
August 12 - 18, 1998

Suppose, this past weekend, you sent an e-mail to a friend overseas. There's a reasonable possibility your communication was intercepted by a global surveillance system--especially if you happened to discuss last week's bombings in East Africa.

Or suppose you're stuck in traffic and in your road rage you whip out a cell phone and angrily call your congressman's office in Washington. There's a chance the government is listening in on that conversation, too (but only for the purposes of "training" new eavesdroppers).

Or suppose you're on a foreign trip--vacation, business, relief work--and you send off a fax to some folks that Washington doesn't view too keenly. Your message could be taken down and analyzed by the very same system.

That system is called ECHELON and it is controlled by the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA). In America, it is the Intelligence Network That Dare Not Be Acknowledged. Questions about it at Defense Department briefings are deftly deflected. Requests for information about it under the Freedom of Information Act linger in bureaucratic limbo. Researchers who mention possible uses of it in the presence of intelligence officials are castigated. Members of Congress--theoretically, the people's representatives who provide oversight of the intelligence community--betray no interest in helping anyone find out anything about it. Media outlets (save the award-winning but low-circulation Covert Action Quarterly) ignore it. In the official view of the U.S. Government, it doesn't exist.

But according to current and former intelligence officials, espionage scholars, Australian and British investigative reporters, and a dogged New Zealand researcher, it is all too real. Indeed, a soon-to-be finalized European Parliament report on ECHELON has created quite a stir on the other side of the Atlantic. The report's revelations are so serious that it strongly recommends an intensive investigation of NSA operations.

The facts drawn out by these sources reveal ECHELON as a powerful electronic net--a net that snags from the millions of phone, fax, and modem signals traversing the globe at any moment selected communications of interest to a five-nation intelligence alliance. Once intercepted (based on the use of key words in exchanges), those communiqués are sent in real time to a central computer system run by the NSA; round-the-clock shifts of American, British, Australian, Canadian, and New Zealand analysts pour over them in search of . . . what?

Originally a Cold War tool aimed at the Soviets, ECHELON has been redirected at civilian targetsworldwide. In fact, as the European Parliament report noted, political advocacy groups like Amnesty International and Greenpeace were amongst ECHELON's targets. The system's awesome potential (and potential for abuse) has spurred some traditional watchdogs to delve deep in search of its secrets, and even prompted some of its minders within the intelligence community to come forward. "In some ways," says Reg Whittaker, a professor and intelligence scholar at Canada's York University, "it's probably the most useful means of getting at the Cold War intelligence-sharing relationship that still continues."

While the Central Intelligence Agency--responsible for covert operations and human-gathered intelligence, or HUMINT--is the spy agency most people think of, the NSA is, in many respects, the more powerful and important of the U.S. intelligence organizations. Though its most egregious excesses of 20 years ago are believed to have been curbed, in addition to monitoring all foreign communications, it still has the legal authority to intercept any communication that begins or ends in the U.S., as well as use American citizens' private communications as fodder for trainee spies. Charged with the gathering of signals intelligence, or SIGINT--which encompasses all electronic communications transmissions--the NSA is larger, better funded, and infinitely more secretive than the CIA. Indeed, the key document that articulates its international role has never seen the light of day.

That document, known as the UKUSA Agreement, forged an alliance in 1948 among five countries--the U.S., Britain, Australia, Canada, and New Zealand--to geographically divvy up SIGINT-gathering responsibilities, with the U.S. as director and main underwriter. Like the NSA--hardly known until the Pike and Church congressional investigations of the ྂs--the other four countries' SIGINT agencies remain largely unknown and practically free of public oversight. While other member nations conduct their own operations, there has "never been any misunderstanding that we're NSA subsidiaries," according to Mike Frost, an ex-officer in Canada's SIGINT service, the Communications Security Establishment (CSE). Moreover, all the signatory countries have NSA listening posts within their borders that operate with little or no input from the local agency.

Like nature, however, journalism abhors a vacuum, and the dearth of easily accessible data has inspired a cadre of researchers around the world to monitor the SIGINT community as zealously as possible. It is not, says David Banisar of the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC), an easy task. Getting raw data is difficult enough. Figuring out what it means even more so, he says, thanks in part to the otherwise conservative NSA's very liberal use of code names--many of which regularly change--for everything from devices to operations. One that appears to have remained constant, however, is ECHELON.

In 1988, Margaret Newsham, a contract employee from Lockheed posted at Menwith Hill, the NSA's enormous listening post in Yorkshire, England, filed a whistleblower suit against Lockheed, charging the company with waste and mismanagement (the case is currently being appealed after an initial dismissal). At the same time, Newsham told Congressional investigators that she had knowledge of illegal eavesdropping on American citizens by NSA personnel. While a committee began investigating, it never released a report. Nonetheless, British investigative reporter Duncan Campbell managed to get hold of some of the committee's findings, including a slew of Menwith Hill operations. Among them was a project described as the latest installment of a system code named ECHELON that would enable the five SIGINT agencies "to monitor and analyze civilian communications into the 21st century."

To SIGINT watchers, the concept wasn't unfamiliar. In the early ྌs, while working on his celebrated study of the NSA, The Puzzle Palace, James Bamford discovered that the agency was developing a system called PLATFORM, which would integrate at least 52 separate SIGINT agency computer systems into one central network run out of Fort Meade, Maryland. Then in 1991, an anonymous British SIGINT officer told the TV media about an ongoing operation that intercepted civilian telexes and ran them through computers loaded with a program called "the Dictionary"--a description that jibed with both Bamford and Campbell's gleanings.

In 1996, however, intelligence watchdogs and scholars got an avalanche of answers about ECHELON, upon the publication of Secret Power: New Zealand's Role in the International Spy Network,written by Nicky Hager. A New Zealand activist turned investigative author, Hager spent 12 years digging into the ties between his country's SIGINT agency, the Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB), and the NSA. Utilizing leaked material and scores of interviews with GCSB officers, Hager not only presented a revealing look at the previously unknown machinations of the GCSB (even New Zealand's Prime Minister was kept in the dark about its full scope) but also produced a highly detailed description of ECHELON.

According to Hager's information--which leading SIGINT scholar and National Security Archive analyst Jeffrey Richelson calls "excellent"--ECHELON functions as a real-time intercept and processing operation geared toward civilian communications. Its first component targets international phone company telecommunications satellites (or Intelsats) from a series of five ground intercept stations located at Yakima, Washington; Sugar Grove, West Virginia; Morwenstow in Cornwall, England; Waihopai, New Zealand; and Geraldton, Australia.

The next component targets other civilian communications satellites, from a similar array of bases, while the final group of facilities intercept international communications as they're relayed from undersea cables to microwave transmitters. According to Hager's sources, each country devises categories of intercept interest. Then a list of key words or phrases (anything from personal, business, and organization names to e-mail addresses to phone and fax numbers) is devised for each category. The categories and keywords are entered by each country into its "Dictionary" computer, which, after recognizing keywords, intercepts full transmissions, and sends them to the terminals of analysts in each of the UKUSA countries.

To the layperson, ECHELON may sound like something out of the X-Files. But the National Security Archives's Richelson and others maintain that not only is this not the stuff of science fiction, but is, in some respects, old hat. More than 20 years ago, then CIA director William Colby matter-of-factly told congressional investigators that the NSA monitored every overseas call made from the United States. Two years ago, British Telecom accidentally disclosed in a court case that it had provided the Menwith Hill station with equipment potentially allowing it access to hundreds of thousands of European calls a day. "Let me put it this way," says a former NSA officer. "Consider that anyone can type a keyword into a Net search engine and get back tens of thousands of hits in a few seconds." A pause. "Assume that people working on the outer edges have capabilities far in excess of what you do."

Since earlier this year, ECHELON has caused something of a panic in Europe, following the disclosure of an official European Parliament report entitled "In Appraisal of Technologies of Political Control." While the report did draw needed attention to ECHELON, it--and subsequent European press coverage--says Richelson, "built ECHELON up into some super-elaborate system that can listen in on everyone at any time, which goes beyond what Nicky Hager wrote." Richelson, along with other SIGINT experts, emphasizes that, despite ECHELON's apparent considerable capabilities, it isn't omniscient.

EPIC's David Banisar points out that despite the high volume of communications signals relayed by satellite and microwave, a great many fiber-optic communications--both local and domestic long distance--can't be intercepted without a direct wiretap. And, adds Canadian ex-spook Mike Frost, there's a real problem sorting and reading all the data; while ECHELON can potentially intercept millions of communications, there simply aren't enough analysts to sort through everything. "Personally, I'm not losing any sleep over this," says Richelson, "because most of the stuff probably sits stored and unused at [NSA headquarters in] Fort Meade."

Richelson's position is echoed by some in the intelligence business ("Sure, there's potential for abuse," says one insider, "but who would you rather have this--us or Saddam Hussein?"). But others don't take such a benign view. "ECHELON has a huge potential for violating privacy and for abuses of democracy," says Hager. "Because it's so powerful and its operations are so secret that there are no real constraints on agencies using it against any target the government chooses. The excessive secrecy built up in the Cold War removes any threat of accountability."

The only time the public gets anything resembling oversight, Hager contends, is when intelligence officials have a crisis of conscience, as several British spooks did in 1992. In a statement to the London Observer, the spies said they felt they could "no longer remain silent regarding that which we regard to be gross malpractice and negligence within the establishment we operate"--the establishment in question being the Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), Britain's version of the NSA. The operatives said that an intercept system based on keyword recognition (sound familiar?) was routinely targeting the communications of Amnesty International and Christian Aid.

Adds Hager, "The use of intelligence services in these cases had nothing to do with national security, but everything to do with keeping tabs on critics. The British government frequently finds itself in political conflict with Amnesty over countries it is supplying arms to or governments with bad human rights records. ECHELON provides the government with a way to gain advantage over Amnesty by eavesdropping on their operations."

Hager and others also argue that potential for abuse lies in the hierarchical and reciprocal nature of the UKUSA alliance. According to data gathered by congressional committees in the ྂs, and accounts of former SIGINT officers like Frost, UKUSA partners have, from time to time, used each other to circumvent prohibitions on spying on their own citizens. Frost, for example, directed Canadian eavesdropping operations against both Americans and Britons--at the request of both countries' intelligence services, to whom the surveillance data was subsequently passed.

And British Members of Parliament have raised concerns for years about the lack of oversight at the NSA's Menwith Hill facility--a base on British soil with access to British communications yet run by the NSA, which works closely with the GCHQ. "Given that both the U.S. and Britain turn their electronic spying systems against many other friendly and allied nations," says Hager, "the British would be naive not to assume it is happening to them."

David Banisar, the electronic privacy advocate, says that apparently just asking about ECHELON, or mentioning anything like it, is considered unreasonable. Since earlier this year, Banisar has been trying to get information on ECHELON from the NSA under the Freedom of Information Act. "They're not exactly forthcoming," he says, explaining that he only recently got a response in which he was in effect told the European Parliament report "didn't provide enough information" for the NSA to locate the requested information. However, Wayne Madsen, co-author with Bamford of the most recent edition of The Puzzle Palace, was more directly discouraged from investigating ECHELON's possibly dubious applications, as the following story makes clear.

On April 21, 1996, Chechnyen rebel leader Dzokhar Dudayev was killed when a Russian fighter fired two missiles into his headquarters. At the time of the attack, Dudayev had been talking on his cellular phone to Russian officials in Moscow about possible peace negotiations. According to electronics experts, getting a lock on Dudayev's cell phone signal would not have been difficult, but as Martin Streetly, editor of Jane's Radar and Electronic Warfare Systems, noted at the time, the Russian military was so under-equipped and poorly maintained, it was doubtful a radar intercept plane could have honed in on the signal without help.

Speaking at a conference on Information Warfare a month later, Madsen, one of the world's leading SIGINT and computer security experts, explained that it was both politically and technically possible that the NSA helped the Russians kill Dudayev. Noting the West's interest in preserving the Yeltsin presidency and in ensuring the safety of an oil consortium's pipeline running through Chechnya, Madsen explained which NSA satellites could have been used to intercept Dudayev's call and directionally locate its signal.

This wasn't exactly a stunning revelation: Not only had reports recently been released in Australia and Switzerland about police tracking suspects by their cell phone signatures, but Reuters and Agence France-Press had written about the Dudayev scenario as technically plausible. Still, after his talk, Madsen was approached by an Air Force officer assigned to the NSA, who tore into him. "Don't you realize that we have people on the ground over there?" Madsen recalled the officer seething. "You're talking about things that could put them in harm's way." Asks Madsen, "If this was how Dudayev died, do you think it's unreasonable the American people know about the technical aspects behind this kind of diplomacy?"

Nicky Hager says that the New Zealand intelligence officers who talked to him did so out of a growing disillusionment with the importance to New Zealand of access to ECHELON information. In some cases, they said, they had been so busy listening in on targets of interest to other countries, they altogether missed opportunities to gather intelligence in New Zealand's national interest. Ross Coulthart, an investigative reporter with Australia's Nine Network, says intelligence sources of his have reported similar feelings. "In the UKUSA intelligence community, there appear, roughly, to be two camps: those who believe that it's best to fall in line behind the U.S., because the U.S. has acted as protector and funder and gives us resources and limited participation in a system we couldn't support ourselves, and those who think the whole thing is somewhat overrated and sometimes contrary to national interests."

In 1995, for example, Australian intelligence officials leaked a story to the Australian Broadcasting Company that was, at first blush, damaging to themselves: Australian intelligence had bugged the Chinese Embassy in Canberra. However, the Australians had no access to the actual transmissions; they had merely planted the bugs at the behest of the NSA, which was getting the raw feed. "Given that both Australian and American companies were bidding for Chinese wheat contracts at the time," says Coulthart, "it didn't seem like Australia was getting anything out of this arrangement, so they put the story out there."

Indeed, says York University's Whittaker, "there's a really important degree of [economic] tension that wasn't there during the Cold War. On the other hand, most of the threats perceived as common and borderless--terrorism, nuclear proliferation, weapons of mass destruction, and global crime--inspire more cooperation between the UKUSA partners." Hager thinks such cooperation is certainly merited, but what ECHELON to some extent reflects, he believes, is the continued erosion of civil liberties and the notion of sovereignty in the name of security. "Some people I interviewed told me repeatedly, 'It's a good thing for us to be part of this strong alliance,' " he says. "What it amounts to, in the end, is an argument for being a cog in a big intelligence machine."

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Perhaps you might read about the FBI's Carnivore surveillance program instituted during the Clinton Administration as well.

Who can we thank for our loss of electronic privacy?

sapphire630 answered on 12/21/05:

Like I keep telling you all in this technology age they KNOW everything.
You can't even walk in a grocery store without being scanned and they know if you are a valued customer or 'bottom-feeder' the second you walk through the door.
This is not about Bush, it has been this way for at least a decade.
RFID chips are in many things already and
they will be in every thing before 2010.
The stores and government will be able to even tell what pair of underwear you are wearing at any given time.

Everybody said they didn't care;
but now that Bush's name is attached....

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paraclete asked on 12/20/05 - What do you give a terrorist for Christmas?

How about a holiday at Her Majesty's expense.

New laws see bail revoked

December 21, 2005 - 2:00PM


A man arrested during a police crackdown on race-related violence has had his bail revoked by a Sydney court.

Parham Esmailpour, 19, of Carlingford in Sydney's north-west, faced Waverley Local Court today charged with affray and possessing an offensive weapon with intent to commit an offence.

Esmailpour and his co-accused, 18-year-old Melbourne resident Amir Ali Osmanagic, were allegedly carrying two bottles of petrol when police arrested them on a bus bound for Bondi on Sunday.

After the December 11 race-fuelled riot in Cronulla and retaliatory violence in other Sydney suburbs, police had locked down the Bondi area as part of their plan to deal with further unrest.

Magistrate Lee Gilmour granted Esmailpour bail when he first appeared at Waverley Court on Monday but it was today revoked by Deputy Chief Magistrate Helen Syme.

Prosecutors had sought a review of his bail following legislative amendments rushed through State Parliament last week.

The new laws remove the presumption in favour of bail for the crimes of riot and affray.

In revoking Esmailpour's bail, Ms Syme noted that he had been caught by the new laws.

She said public safety was paramount and that Esmailpour's explanation to police that he intended to sniff the petrol on the beach seemed "far fetched".

"In light of the lockdown ... requisite regard must be given to due public safety," Ms Syme said.

Osmanagic was refused bail when he appeared in court on Monday.

Ms Syme ordered that Esmailpour reappear in court on January 18.

AAP

sapphire630 answered on 12/21/05:

I was going to give the terrorists some Slim shady songs for christmas but they have lawyers to sue for torturing them with eminems music so now I think I will join their class action suit cause my kids tortured me with Eminem

Will the real slim shady please sit down and shut up!

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ATON2 asked on 12/20/05 - That time again!

Family:
Will be heading South for the Holidays tomorrow. May be incommunicado for a short while. In the meantime I want to wish you all, a Happy, Healty...Kwansannukamas!!!!

Or as Tiny Tim was heard to mutter under his breath:
"God help us, everyone...here comes that damn Plumb pudding again".

sapphire630 answered on 12/21/05:

make a pitt stop in Pittsburgh and grab me too!!!
Have a great time and give your saint wife a hug from me!

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revdauphinee asked on 12/20/05 - Heaven!!



are any of you watching barbara Walters special on heaven and if so what is your oppinion of it?

sapphire630 answered on 12/20/05:

If I thought Barbara Walters had one inkling of what and who to ask about heaven I might be inclined to turn on the brain dead tube. But it sounds like the blind leading the blind.

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ATON2 asked on 12/20/05 - Is it something in the eggnog???

Lord a'mercy. Bucker is miraculously cured watching Benny Hinn, and arcura has a guardian angel named 'TIM'????? Is THIS what Christianity is all about?????

sapphire630 answered on 12/20/05:

LiKE i said it would take a REAL miracle to be cured watching Benny Hinn, and I have an ameba 1/2 wit brain cell named Tim.
I think we all lost it so I guess this IS

what its all about Alfie!

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Tex78 asked on 12/20/05 - Do any of you believe in miracles? I mean real miracles, not a put-on.

Well, I had a miracle happen to me... I was watching TV. Benny Hinn came on. He was praying for people. He turned to the front, and said, there is a man with emphysema, (which I have had for about twenty years,) he has trouble with his lungs, especially the right lung. (I had lung cancer, and they removed a third of my right lung.) Just then I felt something, that I cannot explain.

I never felt anything like that before that I remember. I am sure you do not know how bad off I was, but I will explain. I was on oxygen day and night. I would wake up at night and have to take a puffer to help me breathe. I could not walk across the house without getting out of breath, even with my oxygen on. My oxygen level would drop down into the 80's. Once it dropped to the 70's for a few seconds.


I haven't been on oxygen for about a week now, and haven't needed it. I went to a Super- K-Mart, I walked around the store for a long time. I went over the entire store, some of it two or three times. I checked my oxygen level, and it was 98. I have never seen it that high before. That is since I started having it checked. Never 98, and it stays on 97 and 98 now all the time.

I sleep at night and never need oxygen. I just have to work out some and build my strength back up. As I haven't been able to do anything for so long. I just can't get over it. I have been healed by the Grace of God. Amen. In Jesus’ name. M.L.

sapphire630 answered on 12/20/05:

I believe some people have somehow miraculously got healing from Benny
I say miraculously because I agree 100% with Aton about Benny Hinn being phoney as a three cent penny!

Remind me to 5 star Aton if I forget.

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BeelzeBUSH asked on 12/20/05 - Guardian Angels?

According to Arcura, and perhaps other experts as well, everyone has a guardian angel. Fred has mentioned that his personally assigned angel's name is "Tim." I really don't know how often Tim and Fred visit together...daily, only on Sundays, visitation rights every other weekend, or when? Do guardian angles swim, have backyard bar-b-ques, help shovel snow in the winter, Bible studies, or what? Do others also know the name of their own guardian angel? If so, please share. Just for the record, if I have one, perhaps I need to give him a motivational speech. There's just not enough time in the week to get everything done for him not be helping out more. Sometimes I refer to my wife as an angel because she often acts in kindness, but that's been as close as I've come to actually seeing, hearing, or speaking to one.



I love myself,
George


sapphire630 answered on 12/20/05:

Driving myself 20 miles to the through SSS curves IN labor near Baytown Texas and not
swerving once...and that is only one of my more minor stories....I'd say it had to be my guardians that got me thru....and they keep me going through even worse than worse the past few years.
If I made the movie of my bad luck life NOBODY would believe me, except people that have seen it for themselves.

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excon asked on 12/20/05 - 3 more shopping days till Holliday!


Hello Chirstians:

(That was for you, Fred.)

excon

sapphire630 answered on 12/20/05:

You musta been doing the mad rush...You ain't been round for a few days.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

EX You have 3 days to buy me Texas!

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Erewhon asked on 12/20/05 - A Free Country Needs a Free Press.



Should the press leave Bush to run his empire from the secret dark place of his own mind, assisted only by his intimate inner circle, but outside the law, freed from reponsbibility to the Legislature, the Judiciary, and the American People?

Bush has ridden rough shod over American freedoms and liberties, and has managed to do so bevcause of the Bush Mantra of Fear that turns strong men to Jell-O and othewise sound intellects into mashed potatoes.

The Bush Mantra of Fear is:

9-11 - Osama bin Laden - Al Qaeda - Afganistan - Iraq - & Watch this space, because only me can save you from total annihalation.!"


The Mantra is repeated continuously on every occasion without regard to its truthfulness.

The press (a free press is essential in a democracy) is criticised for pointing out that Bush is snooping on his own citizens in their own country countrary to the Law and Constitution which he has sworn to uphold.

I am opined that the press do the American public a great service by revealing what they have uncovered when it involves his criminality.

Others would like to make everyone keep quiet about his treason, but there is ample precedent for letting the people know what is going on and what is contrary to law, and why Bush is failing in his promise to re-introduce morality into the White House.

The effect of news coverage on presidential administrations is subtle and hard to measure. Mostly because government investigators are reluctant to acknowledge that they were responding to publicity, because to admit they are influenced by journalism suggests that they aren't doing their jobs properly.

Publicity can and should be used to push authorities to take action if only to avoid being embarrassed by media disclosures.

"In Watergate," writes historian David Greenberg, author of the new book "Nixon's Shadow," "it was unclear at first whether the FBI would pursue crimes beyond the break-in itself. If the Post hadn't kept Watergate alive, it's not certain that the bureau, or the Senate, would have kept digging. Woodward and Bernstein's work shaped the way Watergate unfolded."

According to Woodward, the late Sam Ervin, chairman of the Senate Watergate Committee, "called me and asked questions, and his work grew out of the stories that we did."

Woodward says that after Nixon's resignation, the presiding federal judge, the late John Sirica, told him "flat out" that the Post's stories influenced him to crack down on the Watergate conspirators.

"Judges don't decide to get tough in a vacuum," Woodward says. "Senators don't decide to investigate in a vacuum."

Both were influenced by the press, Woodward says, because "the normal legal process wasn't uncovering the abuses. It's that simple."

Other journalists who covered Watergate agree. "The record clearly shows that the cover-up would have worked if the press hadn't done its job," says CBS News anchorman Dan Rather, whose aggressive Watergate reporting led the Nixon White House to try to get him fired.

Rather maintains that Congress and the courts "didn't have a clue, frankly" about Watergate crimes and that federal investigators wised up "only after repeated and constant coverage" by journalists.

Besides, the battle was political as well as legal, says Jack Nelson, who covered Watergate for the Los Angeles Times: "Nixon was fighting not just prosecutors and Congress but also in the court of public opinion. For all of their controlling Congress, the Democrats were not in any sense going to go after Nixon unless the public was behind it. And the public got behind it because of the press holding Nixon's feet to the fire."

Keep the press free, or make it a puppet of the White House, like Stalin and Hitler did?

Are you free or frightened?



sapphire630 answered on 12/20/05:

As I keep saying I really am not impressed with Bush but the 'press' is definitely left and they twist the news more than you will ever realize. clinton did just as much spying, in fact spying has gone way back even before Kennedy. I have been telling people about the spy chips and RFID chips for 30 years. I also told you all that the Homeland Security and Patriot Act could and would be used against Americans someday and you all said you didn't care because you weren't doing anything illegal to worry.
Now that Bush's name is attached it is a different story.
The Barret report and many other reports tell all the dirty little secrets on Clinton but you never see them in the news. In fact they expunge them as though they never happened!
So democrat or republic they are both two wrongs that do not make a right.

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arcura asked on 12/19/05 - Uri (pronounced oori)Geller a paranormalist.....

What do you think of this guy?
http://www.uri-geller.com/

sapphire630 answered on 12/20/05:

He wants people to believe he is a true paranormalist. I think he is merely an illusionist, unless its that he gets stage fright.

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Choux asked on 12/19/05 - DO YOU EVER?

Do you ever go back and read some of your better answers? I like to go back the next day and read the ones where I made a joke....... and laugh!! The, there is the story about the drunken Santas in New Zealand, that really cracked me up! And, Steve asked a question about Morgan Freeman's opinion that we shouldn't talk about black or white, and I asked him why did he care what people talk about! LOL!! I really crack my self up.

sapphire630 answered on 12/19/05:

..not to mention getting everybody else in a uproar wqhile we'z @ it!!!!


ROFLMAO :)!


Wqhilst---Popeye-eze for while

...actually it was a typical fumble finger typo.

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Itsdb asked on 12/19/05 - Common sense on racism

Freeman criticizes black history month

NEW YORK (AP) — Morgan Freeman says the concept of a month dedicated to black history is "ridiculous." "You're going to relegate my history to a month?" the 68-year-old actor says in an interview on CBS' 60 Minutes to air Sunday (7 p.m. ET). "I don't want a black history month. Black history is American history."

Black History Month has roots in historian Carter G. Woodson's Negro History Week, which he designated in 1926 as the second week in February to mark the birthdays of Frederick Douglass and Abraham Lincoln.

Woodson said he hoped the week could one day be eliminated — when black history would become fundamental to American history.

Freeman notes there is no "white history month," and says the only way to get rid of racism is to "stop talking about it."

The actor says he believes the labels "black" and "white" are an obstacle to beating racism.

"I am going to stop calling you a white man and I'm going to ask you to stop calling me a black man," Freeman says.

Freeman received Oscar nominations for his roles in 1987's Street Smart, 1989's Driving Miss Daisy and 1994's The Shawshank Redemption. He finally won earlier this year for Million Dollar Baby.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Amen. This is what I've been trying to say for a long time, I'm glad to see someone like Morgan Freeman say it, too. Do you agree with Freeman's remarks? Why or why not?

Steve

sapphire630 answered on 12/19/05:

I use to go to Black history month dinner at the local high school.
I really enjoyed it. The ethnic cooking was great, the people and their stories were very informative and interesting. I enjoyed meeting the people there more than most organizational type things---which mostly bore me to death no matter how interesting.

It doesn't quite make sense because most groups are fighting for their 'day, week month, etc....
In a way I can see what he is saying.



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arcura asked on 12/19/05 - Are our courts in shameful shambles?

Ninth Circuit Appellate Court asked to Reconsider its Ruling that it is OK For Public Schools To Teach Seventh Graders “To Become Muslims”

ANN ARBOR, MI. – A three-judge panel of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, which had ruled in a short unpublished memorandum opinion that it was constitutionally permissible for twelve-year-old public school students to be told they would “become Muslims,” has been asked to reconsider its decision by the Thomas More Law Center, a national public interest law firm in Ann Arbor, Michigan. The Law Center has also asked all twenty-four active judges on the Ninth Circuit to decide the case.

For three weeks in 2001, impressionable twelve-year-old students were told that they would become Muslims, memorized verses from the Koran, took Islamic names, wore identification tags that displayed their new Islamic name and the Star and Crescent Moon, which is the symbol of Muslims, were handed materials that instructed them to “Remember Allah always so that you may prosper,” completed the Islamic Five Pillars of Faith, including fasting, and memorized and recited the “Bismillah” or “In the name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate. Praise be to God,” which students also wrote on banners that were hung on the classroom walls.

Richard Thompson, Chief Counsel of the Thomas More Law Center, commented, “This ruling is evidence of a double-standard when it comes to religion in public schools. If students had been instructed on Christianity, as they had on Islam, a Constitutional violation would have most likely been found. The appeals court should clarify in a published opinion just how far public schools can go in teaching about religion. Christians want to know.”

The Law Center represents several parents and their children who challenged the California Byron Union School District’s practice of teaching twelve-year-old students “to become Muslims.”

A federal district court judge in San Francisco had previously determined that the school district had not violated the constitution. Edward L. White III, a Law Center attorney, had asked the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals’ three-judge panel to overturn the district court’s decision.

The three-judge panel, however, affirmed the ruling of the district court in a short unpublished memorandum decision. In its unpublished decision, the three-judge panel overlooked, and did not rule on, the plaintiffs’ claims that their free exercise of religion rights and their parental rights had been violated.

The Law Center has asked the three-judge panel to reconsider its ruling and to rule on the free exercise and parental rights claims.

sapphire630 answered on 12/19/05:

Yep it is okay to teach muslim but not Christianity. We must be tolerant so we do not offend any one wanting tolerance....what an oxymoron our nation has become.

What kills me is it is the PC'er's pushing tolerance that are offended (intolerant); while everybody else seems to be getting along fine. Most Jews are not offended by Christmas, most gays are not offended by straights, etc... but it is mostly them PC'er's!

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paraclete asked on 12/19/05 - Be careful what you say

What if all people were as passionate about their faith?

Man on trial for murder after heated debate
From:
By Kate Uebergang

December 20, 2005


A MAN has been ordered to stand trial for killing his friend with a bow and arrow after a heated debate about God. Peter Rattya, 41, of Seddon in Victoria, is accused of murdering Amer Alihromic on January 15 during an argument in which Mr Alihromic claimed there wasn't a God.

Mr Alihromic, 26, was "cursing God and the Bible" while Mr Rattya was "defending God and saying that he was our creator", witnesses told the Melbourne Magistrates' Court yesterday.

The two men were among a group of people gathered at a Seddon boarding house on a Saturday evening.

Mr Rattya lived there and the victim was a former resident, the court was told.

Matthew Lau and his estranged wife, Codi Campbell, told the court they were among those standing in the back yard smoking cannabis and listening to music.

The couple gave evidence the conversation turned tense when Mr Alihromic began abusing the Bible.

"Peter wasn't happy about the other guy saying there wasn't a God," Ms Campbell said.

Mr Lau said: "The other guy was cursing God and the Bible.

"Peter was defending God and saying that he was our creator."

Ms Campbell said the accused said, "You better apologise to our Lord or I'll f---ing kill you."

Mr Lau and Ms Campbell went inside the property and Ms Campbell said she saw Mr Rattya run to his bedroom, grab a bow and arrow and run outside again.

The court was told she watched Mr Rattya aim the bow at Mr Alihromic.

Ms Campbell said Mr Rattya giggled and laughed after he allegedly shot the other man.

She said Mr Rattya then convinced Mr Lau to stab him in the upper thigh, in order to claim he acted in self-defence.

Mr Rattya reserved his plea to a charge of murder and did not seek bail.

Magistrate Jenny Crubissa remanded him in custody to appear in the Supreme Court next year.

sapphire630 answered on 12/19/05:

If he were so passionate about his faith he wouldn't be on trial for murder cause he would have more compassion than to kill.

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paraclete asked on 12/19/05 - Look out Yanks, Australus is on the menu

No doubt it will join other meats as an ingredient in your favourite dishes as enterprising Australians take advantage of the FTA. You too can find out what has made abo's so lean, after all you won teh competition you may as well eat the product

Terrine australus to sweeten the flavour of Skippy


By Daniel Lewis Regional Reporter
December 20, 2005

THE competition to create a "sugar-coated" name to inspire people to eat kangaroo meat has a winner -"australus".

Run by the Sydney-based magazine Food Companion International, the competition attracted 2700 suggestions from 41 nations. Only entries from people working in the food industry were eligible.

Finalists included "kangarly", "maroo", "krou", "maleen", "kuja", "roujoe", "rooviande", "jurru", "ozru" and "marsu". Also submitted were "kangasaurus", "marsupan", "jumpmeat" and "MOM" (meat of marsupials).

As Greg Richardson, of Pacific Palisades in California, explained of his entry: "There is nothing more comforting than a mother. In order to make kangaroo meat sound more comforting to potential consumers, I figured we could associate one with the other: MOM."

Steven West, a US citizen, came up with "australus". Although, he is the co-ordinator of applied studies (rooms division) at the Blue Mountains Hotel School in Leura and on the verge of officially becoming an Australian. Mr West said that just as the "venison" divorced deer meat from the idea of eating Bambi, so too would "australus" divorce kangaroo meat from the idea of eating Skippy.

What the kangaroo industry dubs "Skippy syndrome" - a reluctance to eat the national symbol - has for decades held back kangaroo meat consumption by humans. This year the industry has a quota to kill 3.9 million kangaroos, mostly for pet food.

Judges of the competition included the television chef Ian Parmenter and the food writer Cherry Ripe.

The editor of Food Companion International, Mel Nathan, said "australus" sounded dignified and linked the meat with the home of the kangaroo. "The new name may be a huge breakthrough for the kangaroo meat industry," she predicted.

When the winning name was announced at a luncheon at Kingsley's Steakhouse in King Street yesterday, some of the guests said the name sounded too much like the Australis brand of fragrances.

The executive officer of the Kangaroo Industry Association of Australia, John Kelly, said that while his organisation had helped sponsor the competition, it had "no really serious intention of changing the name" at this stage.

sapphire630 answered on 12/19/05:

YOU told me us Yankees are NOYT allowed to touch your roo's! I was okay with that; but now that you have told me why I am on my6 way to personally rescue all dem roo's from yoo's!!!!

I will stick to my bushmen *'Hoodia' to go from my wooping 128 lbs down to 108 and I suggest ya'll do the same


Sapph
one hoppin mad Yankee!!!


http://www.hoodia-dietmax.com

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paraclete asked on 12/19/05 - Now that is going too far?

Christians to get naked
From:
By Tony Allen-Mills

December 19, 2005


IN the beginning was the word of God and God never said anything about brassieres or boxer shorts. Thus was born Natura, America's first Christian nudist camp.
After two years of biblical debate over Adam and Eve and their fig leaves and whether or not nudity is sinful, a 67-year-old Quaker grandfather is preparing to open a modern-day Garden of Eden 65km north of Tampa, Florida.

Bill Martin's ambitious plan for an 80ha Christian-oriented Family Naturist Village has survived legal challenges, doctrinal disputes and a plague of internet prudes. Land is now being cleared for the opening next year of what may become the world's only Christian community to feature nude volleyball.

Despite howls of complaint from fundamentalists who have likened Martin to the Antichrist - and described his nudist plans as "graphic evidence of America's moral collapse" - Natura intends to build 50 houses around a non-denominational church where clothing for services will be optional.

He has fought with his neighbours over property rights, fallen out with other nudists over his promotional material and sparked a vigorous internet debate over whether the true path to godliness really involves getting naked.

Yet Martin remains confident that Christians will flock to Natura to experience the spiritual benefits of a lifestyle "free from body shame". He is spending more than $US2million ($2.68million) on a nudist recreational complex that will also feature a hotel, campsites and a children's water park.

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"As evidenced by Adam and Eve, we believe that when God's children are in the right relationship to Him, they will be naked and unashamed," explains one of Natura's brochures.

US christians have long been intrigued by the biblical implications of nudity and Ilsley Boone, a Baptist pastor, was the founder in 1931 of the American Sunbathing Association, an early naturist group.

Martin and his supporters argue that nudism is unhealthy, especially for children, unless it occurs in a proper Christian context. He has criticised non-religious nudist camps for encouraging alcohol and sensuality. "We are going after a totally different group, a group that doesn't want a sexual atmosphere," he said. "There is absolutely no relationship between nudity and sex."

Much of his group's philosophy appears in a book, Nakedness and the Bible, self-published on the internet by Paul Bowman, a Canadian author. The book cites several biblical references suggesting that God does not disapprove of nudity and that Jesus may have been naked at several key moments of his life - notably when he washed the feet of his disciples.

Martin's supporters also claim that nude worship is much more in keeping with modest Christian values than are the ostentatious displays of wealth on show at the suburban "megachurches", where women attend services in "designer clothes and $90 haircuts", says one internet posting.

Although Martin's land has been used by naturists before - the area has the largest concentration of nudist camps in America - he has alienated local residents with proposed property improvements that have spawned half a dozen lawsuits.

He has also upset America's largest naturist association with his "holier-than-thou" approach. Earlier this year Natura was expelled by the American Association for Nude Recreation, representing 270 member organisations, on the grounds that his website was publishing "sexually exploitative material".

Martin also became embroiled in a bizarre dispute about an article that appeared on his website discussing male erections - a perennial concern for novice nudists. Martin told the local press that the article was meant to help young men worried about an embarrassing reaction when first confronting naked women.

"If you can't speak about human nature, I don't know what you can speak about," he said. "Erections have got to be addressed. It's a major concern of teen males."

Martin's critics depict him as a religious fanatic whose criticisms of rival resorts are damaging the naturist industry. "We are not concerned about him taking our members," said Elf Anderson, who conducts nude marriage ceremonies at other resorts. "But we are concerned about the impression he gives to the public about us. We are all for wholesome family nudism - but he's just way off the scale."


I wonder, did any of these people pause to wonder why Adam and Eve hid themselves?

sapphire630 answered on 12/19/05:

Well they DO have nudist coonies in Florida and California. And if they are naked they can't get away with crime or anything cause they would be more easy to recognize....Just point to the naked person running away from the bank. So I guess if they can make it work, what else is new we already have everything else under the sun and then some!

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paraclete asked on 12/19/05 - Now that is going too far?

Christians to get naked
From:
By Tony Allen-Mills

December 19, 2005


IN the beginning was the word of God and God never said anything about brassieres or boxer shorts. Thus was born Natura, America's first Christian nudist camp.
After two years of biblical debate over Adam and Eve and their fig leaves and whether or not nudity is sinful, a 67-year-old Quaker grandfather is preparing to open a modern-day Garden of Eden 65km north of Tampa, Florida.

Bill Martin's ambitious plan for an 80ha Christian-oriented Family Naturist Village has survived legal challenges, doctrinal disputes and a plague of internet prudes. Land is now being cleared for the opening next year of what may become the world's only Christian community to feature nude volleyball.

Despite howls of complaint from fundamentalists who have likened Martin to the Antichrist - and described his nudist plans as "graphic evidence of America's moral collapse" - Natura intends to build 50 houses around a non-denominational church where clothing for services will be optional.

He has fought with his neighbours over property rights, fallen out with other nudists over his promotional material and sparked a vigorous internet debate over whether the true path to godliness really involves getting naked.

Yet Martin remains confident that Christians will flock to Natura to experience the spiritual benefits of a lifestyle "free from body shame". He is spending more than $US2million ($2.68million) on a nudist recreational complex that will also feature a hotel, campsites and a children's water park.

Advertisement:
"As evidenced by Adam and Eve, we believe that when God's children are in the right relationship to Him, they will be naked and unashamed," explains one of Natura's brochures.

US christians have long been intrigued by the biblical implications of nudity and Ilsley Boone, a Baptist pastor, was the founder in 1931 of the American Sunbathing Association, an early naturist group.

Martin and his supporters argue that nudism is unhealthy, especially for children, unless it occurs in a proper Christian context. He has criticised non-religious nudist camps for encouraging alcohol and sensuality. "We are going after a totally different group, a group that doesn't want a sexual atmosphere," he said. "There is absolutely no relationship between nudity and sex."

Much of his group's philosophy appears in a book, Nakedness and the Bible, self-published on the internet by Paul Bowman, a Canadian author. The book cites several biblical references suggesting that God does not disapprove of nudity and that Jesus may have been naked at several key moments of his life - notably when he washed the feet of his disciples.

Martin's supporters also claim that nude worship is much more in keeping with modest Christian values than are the ostentatious displays of wealth on show at the suburban "megachurches", where women attend services in "designer clothes and $90 haircuts", says one internet posting.

Although Martin's land has been used by naturists before - the area has the largest concentration of nudist camps in America - he has alienated local residents with proposed property improvements that have spawned half a dozen lawsuits.

He has also upset America's largest naturist association with his "holier-than-thou" approach. Earlier this year Natura was expelled by the American Association for Nude Recreation, representing 270 member organisations, on the grounds that his website was publishing "sexually exploitative material".

Martin also became embroiled in a bizarre dispute about an article that appeared on his website discussing male erections - a perennial concern for novice nudists. Martin told the local press that the article was meant to help young men worried about an embarrassing reaction when first confronting naked women.

"If you can't speak about human nature, I don't know what you can speak about," he said. "Erections have got to be addressed. It's a major concern of teen males."

Martin's critics depict him as a religious fanatic whose criticisms of rival resorts are damaging the naturist industry. "We are not concerned about him taking our members," said Elf Anderson, who conducts nude marriage ceremonies at other resorts. "But we are concerned about the impression he gives to the public about us. We are all for wholesome family nudism - but he's just way off the scale."


I wonder, did any of these people pause to wonder why Adam and Eve hid themselves?

sapphire630 answered on 12/19/05:

Well they DO have nudist colonies in Florida and California. And if they are naked they can't get away with crime or anything cause they would be more easy to recognize....Just point to the naked person running away from the bank. So I guess if they can make it work, what else is new we already have everything else under the sun and then some!

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revdauphinee asked on 12/18/05 - an answer to one of my postings

I recently recieved an answer to one of my postings as follows
purplewings 12/18/05

I love God as I perceive him. How else can I love him? I haven't sat down and chatted with him on a one to one, except in my prayers.
Since I perceive God to be everywhere and know everything, I can
talk to him wherever I am and believe he hears my heart as well.
You believe in the Christian God, others believe in the Islam God, or Buddhist or Hindu Gods.....these are all perceptions... all have holy books to support them. Who is to say who's right and
who's not? We believe what feels right to us.
Whatever anyone believes about God - God knows & loves all of his children. He doesn't destroy them because of their beliefs or even their actions, just as a parent doesn't destroy their children but
continues forever trying to lead them to a better way.
God bless,
PW

My answer for purplewings and all those who call themselves

Christian and feel this way is

1)I love God as I perceive him. How else can I love him? I haven't

sat down and chatted with him on a one to one, except in my

prayers.

Prayer is comunicating! if we listen he will answer,also he gave

us a great instruction book namely ""The Bible"" in wich you will

if you look find every answer to evry question you need!


2)Since I perceive God to be everywhere and know everything, I can

talk to him wherever I am and believe he hears my heart as well.

this is true!


3)You believe in the Christian God, others believe in the Islam

God, or Buddhist or Hindu Gods.....these are all perceptions...

all have holy books to support them. Who is to say who's right and

who's not? We believe what feels right to us.

God says what we are to believe and he tells us

(Exo.20:3-17
3 "You shall have no other gods before me.
We are"" just to do what feels right to us

5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD

your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of

the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate

me,

and while yes he loves all his creation he will not overlook

disobediance you state

Whatever anyone believes about God - God knows & loves all of his

children. He doesn't destroy them because of their beliefs or even

their actions,

this is so incorrect and due to this false belief many are lost

and will spend eternety out of the prescence of God


Prov.11:21 Be sure of this: The wicked will not go unpunished, but

those who are righteous will go free. )

(Prov.16:5 The LORD detests all the proud of heart. Be sure of

this: They will not go unpunished. )

(Heb.12:25 See to it that you do not refuse him who speaks. If

they did not escape when they refused him who warned them on

earth, how much less will we, if we turn away from him who warns

us from heaven? )


as to other Gods it is writen
1) thou shalt have no other gods before me
2) (Jn.14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the

life. """No one""" comes to the Father except through me. )
3) (Rom.6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God

is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. )
and last if you think he will not punish evil ones
4) (Matt.25:41,46
41 "Then he will say to those on his left, `Depart from me, you

who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and

his angels.
46 "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the

righteous to eternal life." )


I agree that he continues trying to lead them to a better way.
But no he will not continue to do so forever for there will come a time of judgement

Isa.2:12-19,21
12 The LORD Almighty has a day in store for all the proud and lofty, for all that is exalted (and they will be humbled),
13 for all the cedars of Lebanon, tall and lofty, and all the oaks of Bashan,
14 for all the towering mountains and all the high hills,
15 for every lofty tower and every fortified wall,
16 for every trading ship and every stately vessel.
17 The arrogance of man will be brought low and the pride of men humbled; the LORD alone will be exalted in that day,

5 But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God's wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed.
6 God "will give to each person according to what he has done."
7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
8 But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger.
9 There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil:

sapphire630 answered on 12/18/05:

From what I can tell many who go to church all their life and do the right thing can be more far off course than the ones who are forever seeking. Matt. says many will come and say, "Lord, Lord did we not..." and He will say, "depart I never knew you".
Loral has been seeking truth for a long time and God has brought her this far. We can only pray He brings her the rest of the way. Many who we precieve as lost, God will have mercy on. Many we revere as most Holy God may say Who?

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tomder55 asked on 12/18/05 - Cindy Sheehad's European Vacation

I see Cindy Sheehad and a busload of moonbats have taken their traveling protest show on the road . She led a massive demonstation of about 100 at the US Embassy in Madrid ,Spain . (shown here striking a pose.As you can see in the backround ,the pedestrians were amused). If you want her to energize you're gathering this professional protester can be made available for you're holiday party . Book her appearance here . She has a way to brighten up any event.

sapphire630 answered on 12/18/05:

I heard they banned freak shows years ago.

The freakest, then, were the 2 headed people.
Now it is the Cindy Sheehads.

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HANK1 asked on 12/18/05 - JUST WONDERING ...

... if any of you know that there is a goldmine of PROPHECIES in Genesis? Prophetic knowledge is usually associated with Revelations.

HANK

sapphire630 answered on 12/18/05:

They say that is how Rockefeller made his money. He read something in Genesis and found oil by going there and checking it out. I don't know how the story actually went other than that. I use to know the verse in Genesis, but I forget.

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HANK1 asked on 12/17/05 - JUST WONDERING ...

... if we could ALL get together and come up with some kind of a DOCTRINE that would benefit all of mankind, including the Muslims, starting in January, 2006. I feel that we need a CHALLENGE and that we need to do something CONSTRUCTIVE, like build a DOCTRINE of FREE-WILL and/or design a WORLD GOVERNMENT or BOTH that everyone everywhere could live with! WHY? Many people need our help! (I know this to be true) More people than you may think read what we write on this Christianity Board. If we tried one or two of these projects, I'm quite sure it wouldn't be boring. I would also like to have some Experts who are 'missing' come back to our Board and give us some input. I KNOW THAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN!

HANK

sapphire630 answered on 12/17/05:

We can't even get two Christain groups to agree.


I think the saying that could apply to an attempt to this type of thing....


My way or the highway.


Now which side can yell it the loudest!

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excon asked on 12/15/05 - Money


Hey Christians:

I've got a great idea. This should work well for you. On our money, how about we change "In God We Trust", to "In Intelligence We Trust"? It would work for me too.

excon

sapphire630 answered on 12/17/05:

Nope! I don't trust in America intelligence, CIA intelligence etc...
I don't think most Americans even know what intelligence is any more.

I like the part in the the beginning of the movie Air America where Mel Gibson makes the comment about American intelligence being an oxymoron.

I say anybody having a problem with 'In God we trust' being on their money just send it to me. I will gladly take the problem!

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paraclete asked on 12/15/05 - I just wnat to clarify something

I will not qualify my every remark just because you politically correct americans think that every remark must carry the qualification (of, course not all") what is wrong with you, you live in a sick society and think every one has to be appeased. I make no apologies for my veiws, and for the Record you can't be a practising gay and be a practising Christian, you can't be a terrorist and be a practising Muslim, etc.

It goes with out saying that not all Christians are crusaders, not all Muslims are terrorists, not all americans are idiots.

sapphire630 answered on 12/17/05:

Clete:
Do not visit America, you will run into more idiots than your worst nightmare can imagine!! I am sure there are some places in America that do have sensible people but most do not.

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Erewhon asked on 12/16/05 - A Bug Too Far? Can He Avoid Impeachment? A Blow for Right Wing Christians.



Bush stands firm over spying row
George W Bush


President George W Bush insists he has not compromised civil liberties, after it was alleged he authorised people in the US to be bugged without a warrant.

A storm of protest erupted after the New York Times said the National Security Agency (NSA)** was allowed to eavesdrop on hundreds of people.

Senators from both sides called for an explanation and investigation.

Mr Bush refused to confirm or deny the claims, but said he always upheld the law and protected civil liberties.

The president said he would not discuss ongoing intelligence operations.

But he added: "I will make this point. That whatever I do to protect the American people, and I have an obligation to do so, that we will uphold the law, and decisions made are made understanding we have an obligation to protect the civil liberties of the American people."

The New York Times said Mr Bush signed a secret presidential order following the attacks on 11 September 2001, allowing the NSA, based at Fort Meade, Maryland, to track the international telephone calls and e-mails of hundreds of people without referral to the courts.

Previously, surveillance on American soil was generally limited to foreign embassies.

Critics have questioned whether wider surveillance in the US crosses constitutional limits on legal searches.

American law usually requires a secret court, known as a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, to give permission before intelligence officers can conduct surveillance on US soil.

'Big brother'

Republican Senator John McCain called for an explanation.

Senator Arlen Specter, Senate Judiciary Committee chairman and another Republican, said "there is no doubt that this is inappropriate", adding that Senate hearings would be held early next year as "a very, very high priority".

Senator John McCain, Republican (left) and Senator Joe Lieberman, Democrat
Senators from both sides have expressed disquiet

"This is Big Brother run amok," was the reaction of Democratic Senator Edward Kennedy, while his colleague Russell Feingold called it a "shocking revelation" that "ought to send a chill down the spine of every senator and every American".

The allegations coincided with a setback for the Bush administration, as the Senate rejected extensions to spying provisions in the Patriot Act.

BBC Washington correspondent Justin Webb said it is a sign of intense concern about infringements of civil liberties in the name of security.

The White House is having a tough time convincing even its Republican supporters that the things it does in the name of the war on terrorism are always justified, he adds.

Echoes of Vietnam

Administration officials issued a robust defence of anti-terrorist operations, saying they had prevented several attacks - including one on targets in Britain.

But the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) said eavesdropping in the US without a court order and without complying with the procedures of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act was "both illegal and unconstitutional".

"The administration is claiming extraordinary presidential powers at the expense of civil liberties and is putting the president above the law," director Caroline Fredrickson said.

To opponents of the Bush administration, the alleged bugging programme is reminiscent of the widespread abuse of power by the security services during the Vietnam War when anti-war activists were monitored illegally, our correspondent says.

That activity prompted tougher regulation of bugging.

** NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY
Formed in 1952
Biggest US security agency, with 38,000 employees
Nicknamed "No Such Agency"
Has a dozen listening posts around the world, tracking phone calls, diplomatic traffic, emails, faxes
May record up to 500 million hours of traffic every day
On US soil, can only listen to "agents of a foreign power"
NSA is America's most powerful spy agency

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Has Bush infringed the civil liberties of American citizens and acted illegally?


sapphire630 answered on 12/17/05:

I have been telling people for years that the Homeland security, Patriot act, RFID chips, etc... are being sold to us as something for our convience and/or security, but ultimately used against us, and no one would believe me. Or they would say that is okay for them to spy (on average America) because I don't have anything to hide. Now that Bush's name is attached though I am sure all the bush haters will change their toon.

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arcura asked on 12/17/05 - Spin it left - Spin it right - Which spin is correct?

Official: Bush authorized spying multiple times
Associated Press

Senior intelligence officer says President personally gave NSA permission
NEW YORK - President Bush has personally authorized a secretive eavesdropping program in the United States more than three dozen times since October 2001, a senior intelligence official said Friday night.

The disclosure follows angry demands by lawmakers earlier in the day for a congressional inquiry into whether the monitoring by the highly secretive National Security Agency violated civil liberties.

“There is no doubt that this is inappropriate,” declared Republican Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. He promised hearings early next year.

Bush on Friday refused to discuss whether he had authorized such domestic spying without obtaining warrants from a court, saying that to comment would tie his hands in fighting terrorists.

In a broad defense of the program put forward hours later, however, a senior intelligence official told The Associated Press that the eavesdropping was narrowly designed to go after possible terrorist threats in the United States.

The official said that since October 2001, the program has been renewed more than three dozen times. Each time, the White House counsel and the attorney general certified the lawfulness of the program, the official said. Bush then signed the authorization.

Risk to the country At each review, government officials have provided a fresh assessment of the terrorist threat, showing that there is a catastrophic risk to the country or government, the official said.

“Only if those conditions apply do we even begin to think about this,” he said. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the intelligence operation.

“The president has authorized NSA to fully use its resources — let me underscore this now — consistent with U.S. law and the Constitution to defend the United States and its citizens,” the official said, adding that congressional leaders have also been briefed more than a dozen times.

Senior officials asserted that that the president would do everything in his power to protect the American people while safeguarding civil liberties.

“I will make this point,” Bush said in an interview with “The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer.” “That whatever I do to protect the American people — and I have an obligation to do so — that we will uphold the law, and decisions made are made understanding we have an obligation to protect the civil liberties of the American people.”

Senators want more information The surveillance, disclosed in Friday’s New York Times, is said to allow the agency to monitor international calls and e-mail messages of people inside the United States. But the paper said the agency would still seek warrants to snoop on purely domestic communications — for example, Americans’ calls between New York and California.

“I want to know precisely what they did,” said Specter. “How NSA utilized their technical equipment, whose conversations they overheard, how many conversations they overheard, what they did with the material, what purported justification there was.”

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said he wanted to know exactly what is going on before deciding whether an investigation is called for. “Theoretically, I obviously wouldn’t like it,” he said of the program.

Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., a member of the Judiciary Committee, said, “This shocking revelation ought to send a chill down the spine of every American.”

Times: Cheney told of program Vice President Dick Cheney and Bush chief of staff Andrew Card went to the Capitol Friday to meet with congressional leaders and the top members of the intelligence committees, who are often briefed on spy agencies’ most classified programs. The Times said they had been previously told of the program. Members and their aides would not discuss the subject of the closed sessions Friday.

The intelligence official would not provide details on the operations or examples of success stories. He said senior national security officials are trying to fix problems raised by the Sept. 11 commission, which found that two of the suicide hijackers were communicating from San Diego with al-Qaida operatives overseas.

“We didn’t know who they were until it was too late,” the official said.

Some intelligence experts who believe in broad presidential power argued that Bush would have the authority to order searches without warrants under the Constitution.

In a case unrelated to NSA eavesdropping in this country, the administration has argued that the president has vast authority to order intelligence surveillance without warrants “of foreign powers or their agents.”

“Congress cannot by statute extinguish that constitutional authority,” the Justice Department said in a 2002 legal filing with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review.

Other intelligence veterans found difficulty with the program in light of the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, passed after the intelligence community came under fire for spying on Americans. That law gives government — with approval from a secretive U.S. court — the authority to conduct covert wiretaps and surveillance of suspected terrorists and spies.

No comment from NSA In a written statement, NSA spokesman Don Weber said the agency would not provide any information on the reported surveillance program. “We do not discuss actual or alleged operational issues,” he said.

Elizabeth Rindskopf Parker, former NSA general counsel, said it was troubling that such a change would have been made by executive order, even if it turns out to be within the law.

Parker, who has no direct knowledge of the program, said the effect could be corrosive. “There are programs that do push the edge, and would be appropriate, but will be thrown out,” she said.

Prior to 9/11, the NSA typically limited its domestic surveillance activities to foreign embassies and missions — and obtained court orders for such investigations. Much of its work was overseas, where thousands of people with suspected terrorist ties or other valuable intelligence may be monitored.

The report surfaced as the administration and its GOP allies on Capitol Hill were fighting to save provisions of the expiring USA Patriot Act that they believe are key tools in the fight against terrorism. An attempt to rescue the approach favored by the White House and Republicans failed on a procedural vote.

sapphire630 answered on 12/17/05:

I have been telling people for years that the Homeland security, Patriot act, RFID chips, etc... are being sold to us as something for our convience and/or security, but ultimately used against us, and no one would believe me. Or they would say that is okay for them to spy (on average America) because I don't have anything to hide. Now that Bush's name is attached though I am sure all the bush haters will change their toon.

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Choux asked on 12/14/05 - All Australia Chaos, All the Time

Welcome!!!

How many Australians have been killed in the most recent riots. Please break it down by race, religion, swimming speciality in the Olympics, political party.

Thanks in advance.

sapphire630 answered on 12/14/05:

Maybe it's be all that Steve Irwin from Animal Planet's fault.

I think it's time to import the Koala's and kangaroo's!

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paraclete asked on 12/14/05 - Was the night before christmas

'Twas the night before Christmas and Santa's a wreck...
How to live in a world that's politically correct?
His workers no longer would answer to "Elves",
"Vertically Challenged" they were calling themselves.
And labor conditions at the north pole
Were alleged by the union to stifle the soul.

Four reindeer had vanished, without much propriety,
Released to the wilds by the Humane Society.
And equal employment had made it quite clear
That Santa had better not use just reindeer.
So Dancer and Donner, Comet and Cupid,
Were replaced with 4 pigs, and you know that looked stupid!
The runners had been removed from his sleigh;
The ruts were termed dangerous by the E.P.A.

And people had started to call for the cops
When they heard sled noises on their roof-tops.
Second-hand smoke from his pipe had his workers quite frightened.
His fur trimmed red suit was called "Unenlightened."
And to show you the strangeness of life's ebbs and flows,
Rudolf was suing over unauthorized use of his nose
And had gone on Geraldo, in front of the nation,
Demanding millions in over-due compensation.

So, half of the reindeer were gone; and his wife,
Who suddenly said she'd enough of this life,
Joined a self-help group, packed, and left in a whiz,
Demanding from now on her title was Ms.
And as for the gifts, why, he'd ne'er had a notion
That making a choice could cause so much commotion.

Nothing of leather, nothing of fur,
Which meant nothing for him. And nothing for her.
Nothing that might be construed to pollute.
Nothing to aim. Nothing to shoot.
Nothing that clamored or made lots of noise.
Nothing for just girls. Or just for the boys.
Nothing that claimed to be gender specific.
Nothing that's warlike or non-pacific.
No candy or sweets...they were bad for the tooth.
Nothing that seemed to embellish a truth.

And fairy tales, while not yet forbidden,
Were like Ken and Barbie, better off hidden.
For they raised the hackles of those psychological
Who claimed the only good gift was one ecological.
No baseball, no football...someone could get hurt;
Besides, playing sports exposed kids to dirt.
Dolls were said to be sexist, and should be passe;
And Nintendo would rot your entire brain away.

So Santa just stood there, disheveled, perplexed;
He just could not figure out what to do next.
He tried to be merry, tried to be gay,
But you've got to be careful with that word today.
His sack was quite empty, limp to the ground;
Nothing fully acceptable was to be found.

Something special was needed, a gift that he might
Give to all without angering the left or the right.
A gift that would satisfy, with no indecision,
Each group of people, every religion;
Every ethnicity, every hue,
Everyone, everywhere...even you.
So here is that gift, it's price beyond worth...
"May you and your loved ones enjoy peace on earth."

To which I will add Happy Christmas

sapphire630 answered on 12/14/05:

yep no Christmas this year

PETA took Santas reindeer
OSHA fined him for safety hazards--going down chimneys
Ken took off with GI Joe
Santa was left to freeze death


when your girl asks for a diamond give her coal---diamonds are made from coal, after all ya know!

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STONY asked on 12/14/05 - RONNIE............

MAYBE YOU WOULD LIKE TO INVITE OSAMA BIN LADEN OVER TO YOUR HOUSE FOR CHRISTMAS DINNER. WOULD THAT EASE YOUR PAIN?

sapphire630 answered on 12/14/05:

talk about terroristic threats
I think Choux might be right.

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belle33 asked on 12/13/05 - TO be or not to be

Some one asked if I am Ruth. The answer is NO. I have been away and haven't had a chance to tell you I am not. Also Choux told me I am not good at playing games, I have asked her to name the game, since I have no clue. Never occured to me anyone would think I am Ruth, I wouldn't deny it if I were. Merry Christmas, and seasons greetings to all.

sapphire630 answered on 12/13/05:

Is this the 20 questions game to figure out who you are? if we know you? How did you know of Ruth? who all else do you remember from askme?

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ETWolverine asked on 12/13/05 - For Aton: Answers to your questions.

>>>1. Who sets up the guidelines [regarding genetic ethics], the Government or the Churches???<<<

How about the geneticists themselves. For a long time now, physicians and scientists have created their own ethical standards with their own ethical approval systems.

Or if you would like, how about a council made up of elements of religions, government and the scientific community.

Frankly, I don't really care who sets the standards, as long as they are set, and are at their base moral as well as ethical.


>>>2. Is it permitted for an Orthodox Jew to accept the heart of a pig as a viable transplant???<<<

Yes. In Jewish law, saving a life trumps all other laws except 3: the prohibitions against idolatry, murder and having extra-marital sexual relations with a married woman. Kosher law is superceded by the saving of a life. Just as long as the patient doesn't EAT the rest of the pig, it would be fine. Coincidentally, the question has come up before in history... for diabetics. For the longest time, insulin was obtained from pigs, and the question was asked whether Jews could use pig insulin. The answer was a clear "yes" for the reason that I described above. An organ transplant would have the same rules.

>>>3. In the case of Jehovah's Witnesses...were blood fractions from cow's blood permitted as an alternate type of blood transfusion, because of a church dictum or State law??? In the case of Mad Cow Disease, can the STATE overule a Church doctrine?????<<<

I don't know enough about JW law to answer. However, it is one of the issues that should be answered IN ADVANCE by a board of ethics.

>>>4. Is inheritance determinded by predated wills or government laws???<<<

Yes. That is, it depends on the case, the structure of the will, the laws of the jurisdiction, etc.

Your questions are proving my point... every one of the questions you have asked here is a topic that needs to be answered BEFORE the problem comes up. Because if we don't, we end up rushing the issue, and usually end up screwing it up WORSE than if we had done nothing. But if we take the time to start answering these questions NOW rather than rushing to do it later, a positive outcome is more likely. Not assured by any means... but more likely.

Elliot

sapphire630 answered on 12/13/05:

you are right the scientific community does set its own standards. People complain that Bush will not grant money for stem cell research. It is because he is using sort of the same principle for research as the left has defined for separation of church and state. He does not oppose or make laws prohibiting research, but they have to use the money they raise---not government funding.

I have always wondered how JW's can be ok with letting loved ones die because they are against transfusions and transplants.
The Jewish reasoning makes more sense and if it is good reasoning for the Jew, I accept it as the better answer.

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paraclete asked on 12/13/05 - Church burns as muslims rage through suburbs

Driver bashed by group of men

December 14, 2005 - 8:04AM
Related coverage

* Fortress Cronulla: no way through
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* Police look for answers in text messages
* Race attacks spread to Perth, Adelaide


A motorist was bashed with a baseball bat and five people were arrested as hundreds of police hit Sydney's streets overnight to restore calm.

More than 450 officers were on patrol in flashpoint suburbs in the city's south and west after they were hit by violence sparked by Sunday's race riot at Cronulla beach.

NSW Assistant Police Commissioner Mark Goodwin said there were no "smash and bash" raids and no confrontations with police overnight.

It was not known if a fire that destroyed a Uniting Church at Auburn, in Sydney's inner west, early today was linked to recent violence in at least four Sydney suburbs, he said.

But police are treating the blaze at the church, which is near an Islamic centre, as suspicious.

Police said a motorist suffered cuts to his hand after being attacked by a group of men, one armed with a baseball bat, at Ryde in Sydney's north about 1.15am (AEDT) today.

Among the five people arrested overnight was a 31-year-old man carrying a knuckleduster, handcuffs and fireworks on Cronulla Rd, Cronulla, about 9.30pm.

He was later charged with having custody of an offensive implement.

A second man, aged in his 20s, and allegedly carrying a knife, was also arrested at Cronulla. He was issued with an infringement notice for the offence.

Police later arrested two 22-year-old men in Bay Street, at Brighton, in Sydney's south, about 11pm.

One man allegedly carrying a glass breaking tool was charged with possessing an offensive implement and the second was charged over a traffic matter.

A 23-year-old man was also arrested for traffic offences at Moore Park, in Sydney's east.

Mr Goodwin said calm had prevailed in all suburbs after two consecutive nights of violence.

"I have been shocked and disgusted at the recent incidents of violence by some members of the public," he said.

"The police have conducted a formidable operation overnight ensuring the safety and security of those in beachside suburbs where there has been so much animosity."

Mr Goodwin said the high-profile police operation would continue.

AAP

Bats, rods, bars, fists … it's out of control


By Jordan Baker and Andrew Stevenson
December 14, 2005
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THE rioters had moved on to Lakemba and their rampaging was confined to the late news for John Castles until he got up from the couch to take in the view from his Cronulla balcony.

What he saw petrified him. "All of them were coming down the Kingsway."

Dozens of vehicles clogged the street. Men stood on parked cars, shouting, bashing windows with baseball bats. "It was out of control," Mr Castles said. "They were going on a rampage."

Three men jumped on his car's roof and smashed windows with an iron bar. "They were saying, 'We'll be back Sunday. Come out and fight us'," he said.

A second wave of unrest following Sunday's race rioting began on Monday afternoon at Maroubra Beach. Police seized baseball bats, golf clubs, steel poles, machetes and axe handles, and crates of rocks and Molotov cocktails that had been placed on rooftops. Five local men were arrested and released.

A few hours later, more than 200 of their opponents gathered at a mosque in Lakemba. Some were preparing to head to Maroubra. Others said they were defending the mosque.

Police brought that situation under control after a few hours, but at 10pm a convoy of dozens of cars, their occupants apparently intent on retribution for the weekend's violence against people of Middle Eastern appearance, arrived in Sutherland Shire.

They travelled via Hurstville, rather than originating from that suburb, as reports indicated on Monday night. At Caringbah, some attacked a couple dining at a pizzeria. The woman suffered head injuries. Her husband tried to rescue her but was assaulted.

A man who had just returned from a North Coast fishing trip was set upon by up to 30 men on Kingsway. "There were bats, rods, bars, fists," he said.

He suffered a fractured arm and bruises to his face and legs but was not interested in revenge. "I just want it to stop." Two more men were attacked, one as he put out his garbage bins.

The cars turned into Elouera Road. Michael Head and his sister Suzanne were finishing a birthday dinner with a friend soon after 11pm when vehicles pulled up outside their unit block.

More than a dozen men leapt out of a van and jumped on their cars, smashing the windows with baseball bats. Through a megaphone, they challenged residents to come out and face them. Those inside turned off the lights and hid behind the blinds. None had been involved in Sunday's violence, they said.

"I was shocked. I was standing there thinking this is not happening," Mr Head said. "There were fireworks going off, which we thought were god knows what," Ms Head said. "Where are the Aussies with their flags at 10pm on Monday? Probably at home nursing a hangover."

The convoy moved on to the Elouera Road shops. There the front windows of the newsagency were smashed, shattering glass across the floor.

Windows were also broken at the dry-cleaning business. Ann Harvey, the manager, lives around the corner. She heard glass smashing and gunshots. She took a call from her 80-year-old neighbour, who was petrified.

Another resident, Adrian, 26, said he was outside a friend's house when a car stopped next to him. A man jumped out and took a swing at him with a baseball bat, but missed. "Everyone is just waiting for the drive by [shooting]," his friend Jade said.

Joel Austin, 28, heard shouting, screams and burnouts in his street in Miranda. "We just grabbed anything, baseball bats and kitchen knifes, and went out," he said. A first group of marauders left without damage. A second arrived when Mr Austin was standing on the Boulevarde.

"As soon as they saw me they said, 'Die, you Aussie dog. We're going to kill you'," he said. The young men, bearing baseball bats with spikes and 60 centimetre machete's chased Mr Austin off the street. He waited in his backyard protected by two dogs and the weapons he had gathered.

"There would have been at least 30 guys came sprinting at me, just ready to rip me apart. I've never been so scared. I was just waiting, thinking this is it. If they weren't going to kill me, they were going to give me an absolute flogging."

The mob left, scared away by a Ford Falcon that was reversed towards them at speed.



Now I'll be interested to hear how erewhon and aton appease the burning of a church and the wanton violence their muslim fellow travellers are displaying in Sydney. It doesn't take much to scare these cowards does it?

sapphire630 answered on 12/13/05:

seems to me from all the posts on the riots in Austriala that the terrorists must be pleased that your country is being destroyed by its own people and the terrorists can just sit back and watch the show now that they got ya'll to this point of rage.
It's almost like purposely getting a person with an anger problem to explode and then sit back and watch them have a heart attack from their anger.



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paraclete asked on 12/12/05 - Are you a man or a mouse?

Science has once more run amock and given credence to the age old question

Mice with human brains


December 13, 2005 - 10:16AM

Scientists say they have created mice with small amounts of human brain cells, in an effort to make realistic models of neurological disorders such as Parkinson's disease.

Led by Fred Gage of the Salk Institute in San Diego, the researchers created the mice by injecting about 100,000 human embryonic stem cells per mouse into the brains of 14-day-old rodent foetuses.

Those mice were each born with about 0.1 per cent of human cells in each of their heads, a trace amount that doesn't remotely come close to "humanising" the rodents.

"This illustrates that injecting human stem cells into mouse brains doesn't restructure the brain," Gage said.

Still, the work adds to the growing ethical concerns of mixing human and animal cells when it comes to stem cell and cloning research. After all, mice are 97.5 per cent genetically identical to humans.

"The worry is if you humanise them too much you cross certain boundaries," said David Magnus, director of the Stanford Medical Centre for Biomedical Ethics. "But I don't think this research comes even close to that."

Three top cloning researchers have applied for a patent that contemplates fusing a complete set of human DNA into animal eggs to manufacture human embryonic stem cells.

One of the patent applicants, Jose Cibelli, first attempted such an experiment in 1998 when he fused cells from his cheek into cow eggs.

"The idea is to hijack the machinery of the egg," said Cibelli, whose work at Michigan State University does not involve human material because that would violate state law.

Researchers argue that co-mingling human and animal tissue is vital to ensuring that experimental drugs and new tissue replacement therapies are safe for people.

Others have performed similar experiments with rabbit and chicken eggs while University of California-Irvine researchers have reported making paralysed rodents walk after injecting them with human nerve cells.

Doctors have transplanted pig valves into human hearts for years, and scientists have injected human cells into lab animals for even longer. But the brain poses an additional level of concern because some envision nightmare scenarios in which a human mind might be trapped in an animal head.

"Human diseases, such as Parkinson's disease, might be amenable to stem cell therapy, and it is conceivable, although unlikely, that an animal's cognitive abilities could also be affected by such therapy," said a report issued in April by the influential National Academies of Science that sought to draw some ethical research boundaries.

Gage said the work, published on Monday in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, was another step in overcoming one of the biggest technical hurdles confronting stem cell researchers: when exactly to inject the cells into patients.

The results suggest that human embryonic stem cells, once injected into people, will mature into the cells that surround them. No known human has received an injection of embryonic stem cells because so little is known about how those cells will mature once inside the body.

For now, Gage said his work was more geared toward understanding disease than to finding a cure.

"It's a way for us to begin to tease out the way these diseases develop," Gage said.

AP

sapphire630 answered on 12/13/05:

yeah I read about them creating mice with human brain cells....I am waiting for the mice to become genius enough to over take the lab!

LOOK out Willard!

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arcura asked on 12/13/05 - Over the years dozens have been lost at sea.

This case is big in the news.
The family is often quoted, but not Smith's bride, Jennifer.
Why?
Have you seen or heard of anything Jennifer has had to say?
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New Details In Case of Honeymooner Lost at Sea
George Smith's Family Believes He Was Killed

George Smith and his new wife, Jennifer, were enjoying their honeymoon on a dream cruise in the Mediterranean this summer. Then Smith vanished, and five months later authorities are still baffled.

"To be honest with you, our theories change on a daily basis," said his sister, Bree Smith, in an exclusive interview with "Good Morning America."

According to witnesses, on the evening before Smith's July 5 disappearance, the newlyweds were drinking and gambling with a few men they had met onboard. Hours later, passengers reported hearing loud crashes coming from the couple's cabin. In the morning, a pool of blood was discovered on the deck below the room, but Smith was nowhere to be found.

"Basically, the extent of the blood that has been reported in the media is an indication to us that he was murdered," Bree Smith said. "George was not depressed, it's clearly not a suicide, and the fact that the FBI is still investigating five months later, obviously indicates that there's some suspicious circumstances surrounding my brother's disappearance."

Jennifer Smith has been cleared by the FBI of any wrongdoing, according to her attorney.

"I'll say one thing," said Maureen Smith, George's mother. "When my son left on his honeymoon with Jennifer, they were the most in love young couple I have ever seen."

The Smith family says they plan to sue Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines.

"I think from the beginning, Royal Caribbean made a lot of major mistakes, right from the beginning," said George Smith Sr. "I think they should've went into George's room, where they didn't. Passengers warned them about the violent fight that was going on. They said 'you've got to get in there,' and when they didn't go into that cabin, they opened up a whole Pandora."

George Smith Sr. says he does not believe his son fell overboard.

A spokesperson from Royal Caribbean said: "From day one we've been cooperating fully with the FBI. We've turned over significant amount of information to the FBI."

Congress will hold hearings on cruise-line safety next week, but for the Smith family the legislation comes too late.

"It may be months, it may be years, but we are confident the culprits will be arrested and they will go to jail, hopefully for the rest of their lives," Bree Smith said. "My brother is not here and they should not be going about their daily lives while my brother is missing in the Aegean Sea."

sapphire630 answered on 12/13/05:

http://www.boatingbookstore.com

Captain Kelly Sweeney From the Bridge talks about how hundreds of cargo type boats are pirated every year. I think it has some stuff about cruise ships too.

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paraclete asked on 12/12/05 - Is Islam the problem? Let's have the debate

Is Islam the problem? Let's have the debate



Andrew West
December 13, 2005 01:33 AM


Australia does not have a race relations problem. We have a clash of cultures and that's a big difference -- and maybe the problem is certain forms of Islam.

Of course, the marauding boneheads who rampaged through Cronulla on Sunday don't make this distinction. If they did, perhaps they would realise that when they screech "Lebs out" they are also referring to the majority of Lebanese Australians who are Maronite Christians, in communion with the Roman Catholic Church.

By their chants, they are also demanding the expulsion of NSW Governor Marie Bashir and her husband, Sir Nicholas Shehadie, two of the finest citizens this state has ever produced; and Victorian Premier Steve Bracks, one of the most outwardly knockabout political leaders in Australia. Lebanese all.

The problem is not the blood that runs through people's veins. Any form of discrimination based on race or ethnicity -- based on the colour of one's skin or hair or eyes -- is inherently immoral, illogical and evil.

But culture and religion are behavioural. They involve values.

People can be born into a particular culture or religion but sooner or later they reach an age of reason where they can embrace or reject their precepts. And if people freely embrace a culture that is antithetical to the prevailing social mores -- in our case, I would hope, liberal, enlightenment values -- then we are entitled to judge, object, censure and even discriminate.

Which brings us to this extremely prickly issue of radical Islam.

My colleague on this paper, Nadia Jamal, has mounted a strong and sophisticated argument that the issue is not religion but culture, specifically the patriarchal culture that prevails in many traditional Muslim households. This is a good point but I think it diplomatically sidesteps the fact that some strains of Islam -- most obviously the strict, puritanical and downright fanatical Wahhabism -- do, indeed, sanction attitudes and behaviour that are not simply patriarchal but repressive. I'm sorry, but to this extent, this particular brand of Islam is most definitely the problem.

When groups of young Muslim men stalk the beaches of Sydney making sexually threatening comments against women in bathing costumes, as they indisputably do; and when they believe they act with the license of a sheik who claims that such women are responsible for their own sexual violation, then I do blame, in part, their religion.

I do not embrace multiculturalism, as such, because I do not believe all cultures are compatible with non-discriminatory liberalism. I prefer a multi-ethnic, non-racial society, which has at its core a canon of values that include racial and gender equality.

I admit to feeling a little uneasy at the sight of a Muslim woman shrouded not simply in a headscarf but a face-concealing, head-to-toe chador, and wonder just how much choice she has had in deciding her lifestyle. I am not hugely sympathetic to a Muslim seeking asylum because he claims to have been discriminated against because of his support for sharia law.

I'm sorry but I cannot celebrate such culture in the way that I celebrate Italian National Day in Leichhardt or the Tet festival in Cabramatta or Greek Orthodox Easter or a Seder at Passover or a service of Eritrean Orthodox Church, such as the one I attended a couple of years ago in a borrowed Church of England in London, or lunch with a couple of Palestinian intellectuals.

Some multicultural theorists will squawk and say that I prefer only a soft multiculturalism (if they insist on calling it that) that does not offend western liberal values. They would be spot on. My acceptance ends when the assault on the liberality of society itself begins.

None of this erases the points I made yesterday, condemning the lynch-mob mentality of the Cronulla crowds, boozed up, in their thousands, chasing down lone Lebanese teenagers.

But I do accept the need for a debate about cultural, rather than ethnic, compatibility -- because the two are not the same.
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sapphire630 answered on 12/12/05:

I am not afraid. I did work for an Iraq guy over the summer and wasn't afraid that he might be....
I don't avoid or run off the bus when I see a Muslim woman with her head covered.
I guess maybe I am just stupid, but I am not afraid of anyone or anything.....
as long as my feet are on the ground and I have a running chance...until then.........


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FormerJesusHelper76 asked on 12/12/05 - Hope

I tried clarifying but couldnt. No worries, I just seen many people assume something that wasnt even having paraclete tell me that I need to be saved. What is that anyway? I just think people need to read things more carefully before jumping the gun. May you and your family have a beautiful Christmas. God bless.

Joe

sapphire630 answered on 12/12/05:

Yep, I have noticed people will add to what you say as though you are supporting something, when all you do is make one comment on a small protion of what was said. Like, if you make a remark for soemthing Bush said or did they think you buy his side lock, stock and barrel.
Like, if I make a comment like people should realize if you do the crime you do the time;
people automatically assume I am all for the death penalty.

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STONY asked on 12/12/05 - HALLELUIAH!!

FOR THOSE OF YOU ON DISABILITY WE ACTUALLY GOT A RAISE THIS YEAR. MAN!! THAT'S ANOTHER HALF A TANK OF GAS THIS YEAR........

sapphire630 answered on 12/12/05:

The ones on disability taht I know do not need a raise. I know many who really do need a bigger raise than the little bit they get.
The raise doesn't even compare to the increase cost of living.

I know so many single guys on disability that work under the table. They load their truck up with scrap three times a day and make approximately 5,000.00 a month on top of their 900.00 a month disability check and cry they can't make it on that.

Then there is the lady across the street from me that between her and her husband recieve only 700.00 a month social security retirement. Her husband just got out of the hospital after 4 months. Their bills are unbelievable and his pills are going to cost $500.00 a week. Medicare will not cover a large part of it. BUT they are getting their little raise that will go directly to the utility companies cost increase.


STONY:
Enjoy your raise
spend it wisely
do not spend it all in one place



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Choux asked on 12/09/05 - Do You Believe

in the concept of entities from other galaxies coming to earth(UFO's).

Do you think that they have a relationship to your religious beliefs?

Just wondering.

sapphire630 answered on 12/12/05:

I believe they are out there and come here, Some are here for good, some for bad.
Too much confusion on a lot of it. Much of it because of people passing phoney photos and fake reports of abductions. Some say that some aliens live inside the earth and two of their exists are a spot at the South Pole and Area 51.

I do not think it has any bearing on a persons religious beliefs personally. But the Bible does use a phrase 'principalies and powers of the air' could it be refering to the bad aliens? Eziekel refers to flying chariots with wheels and caves have UFO drawing in them that date back further than Eziekels time.

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arcura asked on 12/11/05 - Ease up. Time for a blonde joke.

THE BLONDE AND THE FOOTBALL GAME

A guy took his blonde girlfriend to her first football game. They had great
seats right behind their team's bench. After the game, he asked her how she
liked the experience.

"Oh, I really liked it," she replied, "especially the tight pants and all the big muscles, but I just couldn't understand why they were killing each
other over 25 cents."

Dumbfounded, her date asked, "What do you mean?"

"Well, they flipped a coin, one team got it and then for the rest of the
game, all they kept screaming was: 'Get the quarterback! Get the
quarterback!' I'm like...Helloooooo? It's only 25 cents!!!!

sapphire630 answered on 12/12/05:

That had to be one of the best blonde jokes I ever heard and I thought the others were the best

LOL!!!

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HANK1 asked on 12/11/05 - JUST WONDERING ...


... about REINCARNATION! Does anyone know anything about it?

HANK

sapphire630 answered on 12/12/05:

Reincarnation is suppose to be where your soul keeps coming back for different chances to live a more 'righteous' life...like if you do not get it right the first time try, try again. One big problem with this is if that is the case why are we as a people not far more advanced away from violence and evil? Two, the Bible says it is appointed for man to die once and then the judgment
(I think its Romans) Three, God is not limited to where he needs to keep recycling souls, nor limited in knowing if their heart might be right after the second or 5 thousands chance.

I do not believe it is reincarnation.
There is some phenomana that appears to prove to be reincarnation. Two year olds who can barely talk and don't know much of anything are telling detailed stories about 'their' past life bombing over Germany and so forth. One little kid was born one year after a store clerk was killed. The kid has a birth mark where the store clerks bullet entered and exited. He tells stories of his life as the store clerk.

but I do not believe it is reincarnation.
I believe it is some form of channeling or something similar to that.

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FormerJesusHelper76 asked on 12/11/05 - For Hank! Reincarnation!

Reincarnation is taught as a belief in Buddhism, Jainism, and Hinduism.

There are many people who believe that the earlier christians actually held the belief of reincarnation and that even Jesus himself has taught about reincarnation.

I am an open minded person and I do believe the possibilities that some form of reincarnation does exist.

Joe

sapphire630 answered on 12/12/05:

I do not believe it is reincarnation.
There is some phenomana that appears to prove to be reincarnation. Two year olds who can barely talk and don't know much of anything are telling detailed stories about 'their' past life bombing over Germany and so forth. One little kid was born one year after a store clerk was killed. The kid has a birth mark where the store clerks bullet entered and exited. He tells stories of his life as the store clerk.

but I do not beleive it is reincarnation.
I believe it is some form of channeling or something similar to that.

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Laura asked on 12/12/05 - A parent's right to monitor their children's phone calls

http://www.soundpolitics.com/archives/003677.html

In this story the testimony of a mother who intercepted her daughters phone call in which her daughter and boyfriend were talking about something illegal was thrown out of court because it was deemed against the law for the mother to have monitered the call. She supposedly violated the "privacy" law that her 14 year old minor daughter is protected under. The boyfriend had been convicted of a crime but it was overturned because the majority of the testimony was because of the mother's interception of the call which was deemed a violation of privacy. Even though the young man was guilty.

If you suspect that your child is involved in something that could be dangerous to them or that someone else is speaking to your child in a way that is potentially damaging to them either physically or emotionally do you think that you have the right to monitor their phone calls? I sure do. Do you think the law should be changed?


sapphire630 answered on 12/12/05:

It will be thrown out in court legally, but I don't see how they can stop a parent from 'monitoring' their kid as a parent.
By law a parent can probably get in trouble in some instances though.
When they were asking about this on the radio a few months ago. I called the station and said Columbine is a very good reason why parents should keep up on what their kids are up to. If more parents would know what their kids are up to it could maybe save many lives. They want parents to be pro-active at the same time they tie their hands.

What really gets me is,if a kid does do something without your knowledge, like say the school takes your daughter for an abortion and there are medical complications
can you sue the school? I doubt it.

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ATON2 asked on 12/07/05 - Anyone care to take a stab at 'explaining' this quote from Simone Weil???

"Christ likes us to prefer truth to him, because, being Christ, he is truth. If one turns aside from him to go to the truth, one will not go far before falling into his arms."

I promise not to comment on your responses, [as difficult as that may be :) :)] only rate them as they relate to the question? I reserve the right to respond to any clarifying question you may ask :)

To obiviate the necessity for any of you to post long biographical cut and pastes I append the following:

Weil was a French philospher and mystic, of Jewish ancestry, who claimed a mystical experience of Jesus, but who refused to be baptized into any Christian denomination.

sapphire630 answered on 12/07/05:

I agree with what Tomder said. At first the statement does seem like double talk, but he is saying if you want to leave Christ to find truth you will end up coming full circle back to Christ. I think the -Christ prefers- means he would rather you go and satisfy any questioning or uncertainty than blindly follow with doubt.

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revdauphinee asked on 12/07/05 - requesting prayer !



Just got back from the docs and this stupid Lupus is flaring up again so he put me back on steroids wich I hate (they make me gain weight )I just worked my but off to loose 50 lbs ands these stupid pills are going to make me gain it all back but the pain in my joints is so bad i need y,all to remember me in your prayers for a while
thanks Dottie

sapphire630 answered on 12/07/05:

I will look up supplements you can take and get back to you.


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ETWolverine asked on 12/07/05 - Aton's rules of war:

The following is based on my understanding of comments that Aton has made over the past couple of years.

Aton's rules of war:

1) Don't attack first. In fact, don't even attack after you have been attacked. In fact, no matter what provocation there is, in the form of bombings, terrorist activities, broken UN sanctions, broken cease-fire agreements, and intelligence on enemy WMD possession and enemy intentions, you may not attack, ever, under any circumstances.

2) Any war is automatically a quagmire, no matter how much progress is made.

3) All soldiers are "terrorists". Breaking down doors to find enemies hiding among the civilian population is "terrorism". All guards of POW camps are "torturers". Forcing POWs to wear underwear on their heads or to wear women's clothing is "torture".

4) All terrorists are "insurgents". Beheadings, kidnappings, bombings of innocent civilians, using human shields, hiding in holy sanctuaries, etc. are all "insurgency".

5) All wars are America's fault. (Read: Bush's fault.) It doesn't matter is America was attacked first or what UN sanctions and cease-fire agreements have been broken and by whom.

6) All acts of terrorism, no matter how heinous and no matter where and against whom they are perpetrated are America's fault. (Again, read: Bush's fault.)

7) Any intelligence reports should be ignored. No matter what they say, about the existence of WMDs in enemy hands, they should be ignored. Bush always lies about intelligence reports, no matter their source.

8) Anyone who wishes to engage in war against anyone else must first get permission from the UN, the EU, and France. Furthermore, all of those bodies must withhold that permission no matter what provocation there is from the other side.

9) Nobody is allowed to go to war alone. All wars must be conducted with a coalition of at least 100 other countries, to be approved by the UN, the EU, France, and the Arab League. These bodies must, of course, withhold such approval.

10) No intelligence may be gathered from POWs for the purpose of conducting the war. Any attempts to gather such intelligence are "torture", no matter what methods are used. Bush is the one who ordered such torture to take place. The Geneva Conventions are not strong enough: we must always go further in protecting POWs than the Geneva Conventions require, and we must apply those newer stricter rules to those that are specifically excluded from the Geneva Conventions.

11) When searching the homes of people suspected of terrorist activities or harboring terrorists, you must always be polite, quiet, and ask permission to search the property. Any attempts to surprise and overwhelm the enemy to catch him off guard are automatically "terrorism" because they might scare children.

12) When dropping bombs on enemies, you must first go into enemy territory and evacuate any innocent bystanders. The same should be done with those who are only harboring terrorists... excuse me, "insurgents", since they are not really terr... er, "insurgents" themselves. People who are only bombmakers rather than bomb throwers are a grey area, and attempts should be made to either capture or evacuate them before any bombing activities as well.

13) POWs must be given their own Qurans, even if your country has a policy of sepparation of Church and State. Of course, no such rule exists for Bibles, only Qurans.

14) POWs must be treated as hotel guests rather than prisoners. This means that they must receive food prepared according to their religious requirements by a cordon bleu chef, preferably one trained in France. They must be given comfortable beds with warm quilts and fancy sheets, and a full 8 hours per night of sleep. They must also be given comfortable, fashionable clothing. Cells.. er, bedrooms must be well-heated, and artfully decorated. In fact, they must be treated in every way on an order of magnitude better than US soldiers... sorry "terrorists".

15) Politicians MUST at all opportunities call for the immediate withdrawal of all troops from the theater of operations in front of as many cameras as possible, no matter what such negative media attention might do to the morale of the troops. The troops must be accused, as publicly as possible, of every violation of the rules of war, from terrorism to torture, to rape, to theft of private or friendly government property, no matter how true or false such accusations are, and the top levels of government must be blamed for those violations.

16) Retreat as soon as possible.

Elliot

sapphire630 answered on 12/07/05:

Many people confuse humiliation with torture.
Underpants on the 'enemies' heads.
Look the other way when our civilian contractors are beheaded though.

Well you realize the 4 missionaries will be beheaded tomorrow because we will not release ALL the 'insurgents' from the prisons
...and I think I am the one with a twisted fate

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Choux asked on 12/06/05 - New Book

I received a notification that there is a new book out by a respected Christian Bart D. Ehrman titled, "MIsquoting Jesus"

From the blurb: "..the Bible is about transformations, --specifically, the ways in which the text of the New Testament was changed in often surprising and perhaps shocking ways by generations of scribes who had their own theological, political and cultureal agendas."

"He explains how the Christian canon was first formed, how orthodoxy was established, and on a very basic level, how these new books were used and taught in a largely illiterate world."


This might be a good book for our Christian Book Club that hasn't really gotten off the ground??

Anyway, comments?

sapphire630 answered on 12/06/05:

Maybe after you get it you could post a few of the best examples of what he has to say?

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Itsdb asked on 12/06/05 - The black solution?

On 10/14/05, C-Span aired the "Black Media Forum on the Image of Black Americans in Mainstream Media." One of the speakers was Dr. Kamau Kambon, who taught in the Africana Studies Department at N.C. State University. In his remarks Dr. Kambon stated that white people want to kill blacks, and not only do they want to kill them, they want to make money off the process. Dr. Kambon's solution? Read on...

"And then finally I want to say that we need one idea, and we're not thinking about a solution to the problem. We're thinking about all these other things, but we're not dealing with a solution to the problem. And we have to start to think about a solution to the problem so that these young brothers and sisters who are here now, who are 15, 16 or 17, are not here 25 years later talking about these same problems.

Now how do I know that the white people know that we are going to come up with a solution to the problem? I know it because they have retina scans, they have what they call racial profiling, DNA banks, and they’re monitoring our people to try to prevent the one person from coming up with the one idea. And the one idea is, how we are going to exterminate white people because that in my estimation is the only conclusion I have come to. We have to exterminate white people off the face of the planet to solve this problem. Now I don’t care whether you clap or not, but I’m saying to you that we need to solve this problem because they are going to kill us. And I will leave on that. So we just have to just set up our own system and stop playing and get very serious and not be diverted from coming up with a solution to the problem and the problem on the planet is white people."

Really? How does a genocidal racist get by with saying such an offensive, idiotic, intolerant - evil - thing on C-Span and we not hear one word about it in the media? How does such a man end up teaching our young men and women? What kind of fool can actually applaud such remarks? Does anyone agree with Dr. Kambon?

See it for yourself here. Click on the link to launch Real Player and move the slider bar to about 3:40:00.

Disgusting.

Steve

sapphire630 answered on 12/06/05:


Really? How does a genocidal racist get by with saying such an offensive, idiotic, intolerant - evil - thing on C-Span and we not hear one word about it in the media?


Hint: They ain't white American first of all

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arcura asked on 12/06/05 - Target Backing Off Ban, May Use Christmas In Ads Later This Year

Target Backing Off Ban, May Use Christmas In Ads Later This Year
From the American Family Associaton
Christian efforts are having a powerful effect! Our boycott of Target is working! According to the New York Times, a spokeswoman for Target said it did not intend to ban Christmas and might use Christmas in advertisements later this year! In addition, Sears is adding "Merry Christmas" signs in their stores.

And here is new evidence of anti-Christian bias: A survey done by AFA shows that 91% of TV ads ban Christmas from their advertising. We want you to help us stop this banning of Christmas. The survey included one night (Dec. 1) of prime time programming on the four major networks.

AFA found that the "holiday" theme was used in 105 commercials while Christmas was the theme in only 11. This follows the pattern in print advertising where "holiday" was used 25 times more often than Christmas.

These companies don't want to offend a handful of atheists and agnostics, but they don't mind offending millions of Christians who celebrate the Reason for the season.

sapphire630 answered on 12/06/05:

If I remember right this is exactly what they did a year or two ago. They said they were sorry they didn't mean to offend anybody by using Holiday instead of Christams and they would go back to Christmas. I think they were counting on memories forgetting the last time, but I do remember.

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Tex78 asked on 12/05/05 -
Hi. I know that some of us get some strange answers on the board. But what do you think about


I have an on line Ministry, where I contact around one hundred people. If you think you get some hard questions here, read this and then tell me what you think of it.

I deal with these kinds of responses daily. Sometimes it is almost more than I can handle. I do not want to hurt anyone’s feelings, but I must tell the truth.

So, let me know how you would answer this: I will not give out their name, because I don’t know if it would be alright.


Hi Milton. Thanks for the update. I understand your feelings and emotions in what you are saying. Please read my comments with an open mind and ask our Lord Jesus if it is the truth? If he tells you it is not, please show me how and where in the scriptures I am misguided. Every year as the various pagan holidays roll by, especially Christmas, the same debates are held by those on both sides. After twenty six years now as a follower of the Lord Jesus Christ, I see no real movement in Christendom to get back to the first century truth of the scriptures, as it relates to "observing" festivals.
Satan is again stirring two opposing groups of people during the holiday season, both of whom he deceived, only in different ways…….the ungodly leftists and atheists who are attacking anything religious ““and”” those Christians who have mixed serious error into Christendom. These two factions every year war against each other in the public domain. Those Christians who know the truth of the pagan roots of these holidays are then tempted to side with those they have most in common with, the Christmas tree Christians, which includes most of my friends and family, who I love with all my heart. I plead with you to come out of the trap Satan used to ensnare you.
The only feast or holy days Christians should be observing are those of Israel. All of the pagan feasts, Halloween, Easter, Christmas, are forbidden by the Lord. For they all are unholy mixtures which began under the Emperor Constantine and the Popes when they turned against the Jews. Christmas, the Mass of Christ, is in itself idolatrous, in that the Catholics believe in transubstantiation, where the wine and bread are made by the priest to be the real presence of Jesus. If you study the history of Israel, which is our example according to 1 Corinthians 10:6, whenever they mixed with the customs of the pagans they were punished by God, Jeremiah 10.
We are to observe and honor the Jewish feasts not to obtain salvation, but because in them we see clearly the person of the Lord Jesus Christ and his plan for the redemption of man and the establishment of his Kingdom on this Earth at his second coming. That day is near. Your eternal friend. Jack at: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

sapphire630 answered on 12/06/05:

The word Christendom makes it sound to me like they are Jehovah Wittness and Jehovah Wittnesses do not believe in celebrating holiday because they have pagan roots.
I do not get into much of the holiday stuff because it does have pagan roots and is so over commericalized, but I also don't think God really worries about people celebrating on these days because the main thing is He knows our hearts and motives.

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ATON2 asked on 12/06/05 - The fallability of Papal infallability ??????

All the posting re: AIDS and the Pope's ban on contraceptives got me thinking, again, about the question of Papal infallability. My question: If the Pope is infallable today, why was he not ALWAYS infallable???????

You don't have to be Catholic to answer; any opinion is welcome :) :) :)

sapphire630 answered on 12/06/05:

I think, according to Catholics the Pope has always been infallible.
Limbo WAS infallible but now where do all those po' souls trapped in limbo go now that it all of a sudden no longer exists because they decided so?????
...I still wonder where the Easter Bunny went once I found out he no longer existed, but my parents WERE infallible at one time..... I think?


man made traditions!!!

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HANK1 asked on 12/06/05 - KERRY'S BIG MOUTH AGAIN:



According to Paul Harvey this noon, John Kerry said in a recent CBS interview, "US troops are terrorizing women and children in Iraq."

WOW!

HANK

sapphire630 answered on 12/06/05:

Yeah he keeps talking out the empty hole in his head! I have come to the conclusion he is in grand delusion. I guess it's what happens when Theresa's your better half!!

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paraclete asked on 11/30/05 - How it all began.

Beware Christians this is what is actually being taugh to your children

http://mythicjourneys.org/bigmyth/

sapphire630 answered on 12/05/05:

What is it about? I use the library and they do not have speakers so I can listen to it.

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CeeBee2 asked on 12/01/05 - Homeless People.........................

Our library homeless man (Jerry) tells me that every now and then he will be offered a hot meal or even a night's shelter at the local motel, but invariably the person offering this tells him that he must first attend church with the giver.

Is this how Christians should give to the homeless - with strings attached?

sapphire630 answered on 12/05/05:

I can understand these organizations going about it from a 'help people to help themselves' attitude. Like, if we get them to church and get them 'saved' then they might get a whole new outlook at life and maybe they will get out of their situation and be productive. But most often it is just a 'if you' then 'we will' type thing that turns them off and they decide they would rather rough it on the street.

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excon asked on 12/02/05 - Christmas


Hello my Christian friends:

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

You can say it to me, and I won't be offended. Wish me a Happy Chanuka, a great life, a good dinner, whatever. I'll appreciate it all.

excon

sapphire630 answered on 12/05/05:

That is what I like :) somebody that is not so politically correct that they get so unrationally offended in their stupid perjudices against Christianity or whatever they do not agree with! Talk about close minded people it is most often the ones fighting for diversity.

Merry Christams and Happy New Year---
even though I do not bother with Christmas myself for my own reasons (unrelated to Christianity).

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Choux asked on 12/02/05 - Second Coming of Jesus

"Taking the Bible literally makes no sense to moderate and liberal Christians, and one of the most urgent tenets of literalism, that Jesus will soon return to Earth to render judgment and save the righteous, seems like a fantasy. Secular society has no need for Jesus to return. It leaves each citizen to privately choose a religion, or not to choose one, and all other maters fall outside the realm of faith.

So it came as a shock to secular society when millions of people couldn't take their minds off the return of Jesus, so much so that Judgment Day colors everything else they think about--family, relationships, morals, business, politics. Speaking for myself, I came to terms with this issue in the following way:
We are indeed waiting for the return of Jesus, and in this "we" I include those non-Christians who want to live in a tolerant, compassionate relationship with everyone. But if Jesus returns, there are three choices of who he will be.

The first Jesus was historical, a rabbi living in first-century Palestine whose life profoundly changed religious belief in the West. The second Jesus is the core of a religion, which has its particular dogmas, rituals, priests, churches, and scriptures. These two Jesuses are undeniably real, but the second one--the Jesus of organized religion--has been subject to human whim and change. Right now, if you are not a fundamentalist, he seems to have been hijacked in the service of intolerance, bigotry, and war. A religion that began in the name of love has reached almost its exact opposite--not for the first time, of course.

The third Jesus is not rigidly sectarian. He falls into the world tradition of spirituality. This Jesus speaks for peace and love; his morality includes all peoples; his Father is a universal deity. I was well acquainted with the third Jesus as a child in India. I could love and revere him. It never occurred to me that he would ever become an enemy. This Jesus doesn't speak of non-Christians as pagans. He raises human nature to its highest ideal, along with the saints and sages who have guided humanity for centuries.

I don't think that well-intentioned fundamentalists mean to pervert the third Jesus; I suspect they've never heard of him. He has one great disadvantage, however. You can't own him. You can't say "he's all mine and nobody else's." The third Jesus won't work if you need to justify a war, if you need evil enemies, or you want to brand "them" as godless.

Sadly, many fundamentalists need Jesus for all these purposes. So the third Jesus might not return to them, but if Christianity is to survive among moderate and liberal believers, who used to be the mainstream of the religion, ****won't it take the return of the third Jesus****? The first one is long deceased, the second has fallen prey to politics and narrow-mindedness. What alternative is there? Loss of faith and a slide into deeper and deeper meaninglessness. that would be a terrible fate for all of us, not just the Christians.""-Deepak Chopra asterisks mine.


I AM INTERESTED IN THOUGHTFUL RESPONSES TO THE POINTS MR CHOPRA MAKES IN THIS ESSAY.

I AM SPECIALLY INTERESTED IN HOW HE POINTS OUT THE FUNDAMENTALIST CHRISTIANS ALIENATE MODERATE AND LIBERAL CHRISTIANS AND HOW THAT WEAKENS CHRISTIANITY.

ALSO, COMMENTS ABOUT THE THREE PERCEPTIONS OF JESUS. AND CONCLUSIONS CHOPRA DRAWS.

OTHER COMMENTS FROM YOUR WEALTH OF EXPERIENCE.

Thanks in advance.

sapphire630 answered on 12/05/05:

His opinion seems very limited, excluding the one real Jesus that one knows from a truly spiritual aspect; that he, in all his widom, seems to miss.

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Choux asked on 12/01/05 - Stunning Alzheimer's Breakthough


Study: Is Alzheimer's a Type of Diabetes?

"In a stunning research development, scientists from Brown University Medical School have announced that Alzheimer's disease may be a form of diabetes. The big clue? Insulin production in the brain decreases as the disease progresses, reports HealthDay News.

"Insulin disappears early and dramatically in Alzheimer's disease," senior researcher Suzanne M. de la Monte said in a prepared statement. "And many of the unexplained features of Alzheimer's, such as cell death and tangles in the brain, appear to be linked to abnormalities in insulin signaling. This demonstrates that the disease is most likely a neuroendocrine disorder or another type of diabetes."

It's only recently that doctors even knew the brain produced insulin. Now de la Monte's team has figured out that the brain levels of insulin fall dramatically during the early stages of Alzheimer's and then continue to drop as the disease becomes more severe--all of which may mean it's a different form of diabetes. HealthDay News reports that low levels of acetylcholine, which is a symptom of Alzheimer's, are also linked to low levels of insulin. "In the most advanced stage of Alzheimer's, insulin receptors were nearly 80 percent lower than in a normal brain," de la Monte said.

"We're able to show that insulin impairment happens early in the disease," de la Monte said. "We're able to show it's linked to major neurotransmitters responsible for cognition. We're able to show it's linked to poor energy metabolism, and it's linked to abnormalities that contribute to the tangles characteristic of advanced Alzheimer's disease. This work ties several concepts together and demonstrates that Alzheimer's disease is quite possibly a Type 3 diabetes," she said. The study findings were published in the Journal of Alzheimer's Disease." -News Story on my ISP Home Page.

I think this is going to be it---the breakthrough needed against a very nasty disease.

Comments?

sapphire630 answered on 12/05/05:

Best way to, hopefully, avoid alzheimers is
eat healthy, avoid junk food, greasy food,
processed foods. Take B vitamins, 500 mg chromium picolinate, antioxidents, supplements to clean out your digestive system and do not cook in aluminum cookware.

And Keep an active mind. If you don't use it you lose it!

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paraclete asked on 12/04/05 - I need an answer?

Please tell me, when is the right time to get my Plastic Christmas Tree with lights out of it's box and let it shine in all it's glory. I want to do it right this year, I wouldn't want the mice to miss Christmas, me, well I'll probally spend it with a whole lot of Christians

sapphire630 answered on 12/05/05:

I think it depends on your religion. I think some orthodox ones go into the middle of January.

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Choux asked on 12/04/05 - Teaching ID as a Challenge to Evolution is Failing

"""TO read the headlines, intelligent design as a challenge to evolution seems to be building momentum.

In Kansas last month, the board of education voted that students should be exposed to critiques of evolution like intelligent design. At a trial of the Dover, Pa., school board that ended last month, two of the movement's leading academics presented their ideas to a courtroom filled with spectators and reporters from around the world. President Bush endorsed teaching "both sides" of the debate - a position that polls show is popular. And Pope Benedict XVI weighed in recently, declaring the universe an "intelligent project."
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Intelligent design posits that the complexity of biological life is itself evidence of a higher being at work. As a political cause, the idea has gained currency, and for good reason. The movement was intended to be a "big tent" that would attract everyone from biblical creationists who regard the Book of Genesis as literal truth to academics who believe that secular universities are hostile to faith. The slogan, "Teach the controversy," has simple appeal in a democracy.

Behind the headlines, however, intelligent design as a field of inquiry is failing to gain the traction its supporters had hoped for. It has gained little support among the academics who should have been its natural allies. And if the intelligent design proponents lose the case in Dover, there could be serious consequences for the movement's credibility.

On college campuses, the movement's theorists are academic pariahs, publicly denounced by their own colleagues. Design proponents have published few papers in peer-reviewed scientific journals.

The Templeton Foundation, a major supporter of projects seeking to reconcile science and religion, says that after providing a few grants for conferences and courses to debate intelligent design, they asked proponents to submit proposals for actual research.

"They never came in," said Charles L. Harper Jr., senior vice president at the Templeton Foundation, who said that while he was skeptical from the beginning, other foundation officials were initially intrigued and later grew disillusioned.

"From the point of view of rigor and intellectual seriousness, the intelligent design people don't come out very well in our world of scientific review," he said.

While intelligent design has hit obstacles among scientists, it has ****also failed to find a warm embrace at many evangelical Christian colleges***. Even at conservative schools, scholars and theologians who were initially excited about intelligent design say they have come to find its arguments unconvincing. They, too, have been greatly swayed by the scientists at their own institutions and elsewhere who have examined intelligent design and found it insufficiently substantiated in comparison to evolution.

"It can function as one of those ambiguous signs in the world that point to an intelligent creator and help support the faith of the faithful, but it just doesn't have the compelling or explanatory power to have much of an impact on the academy," said Frank D. Macchia, a professor of Christian theology at Vanguard University, in Costa Mesa, Calif., which is affiliated with the Assemblies of God, the nation's largest Pentecostal denomination.

At Wheaton College, a prominent evangelical university in Illinois, intelligent design surfaces in the curriculum only as part of an interdisciplinary elective on the origins of life, in which students study evolution and competing theories from theological, scientific and historical perspectives, according to a college spokesperson.

The only university where intelligent design has gained a major institutional foothold is a seminary. Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky., created a Center for Science and Theology for William A. Dembski, a leading proponent of intelligent design, after he left Baylor, a Baptist university in Texas, amid protests by faculty members opposed to teaching it.

Intelligent design and Mr. Dembski, a philosopher and mathematician, should have been a good fit for Baylor, which says its mission is "advancing the frontiers of knowledge while cultivating a Christian world view." But Baylor, like many evangelical universities, has many scholars who see no contradiction in believing in God and evolution.""-Laurie Goodstein


This is indeed good news, as being a God believer does not mean being ignorant in any way whatsoever. :)

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sapphire630 answered on 12/05/05:

There is a show on the local Christian station called Origins.
I think they have expanded beyond local. They can debate evolution with facts. I wish I understood all that stuff so I could explain it but I am lost in all that chemistry, geometry and so forth.

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Choux asked on 12/04/05 - Is It Evil

to remain intentionally ignorant?? One example, the RCC stand on using condoms and its outreach in Africa.

sapphire630 answered on 12/05/05:

Choux If I remember correctly, one out of six pregnancies in sub-Saharan Africa are the result of a savage rape. :(

Women and children are being destroyed by violent men.

arcura True, plus the fact that for millions in Africa the one dollar a day wages makes buying condums very unlikely.



>>>I heard many women are being violently raped so ignorant or not wouldn't help because rappists aren't concerned about *protection*

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arcura asked on 12/04/05 - Erewhon, Ronnie, asked for this. Here it is for all to see.

Ronnie,
Here it is and more.
I am not disputing all that the May said, only the portion where he is blaming the Vatican for “millions” of AIDS deaths.

“Lord May harbours a strong resentment against the Vatican for what he believes is an unforgivable denial of reality. He is renowned among select scientific circles in Britain for stating bluntly, at a private seminar in the early 1990s, his belief that the Pope had been responsible "for more deaths than Hitler" through Vatican policy on contraception.”

According to what has been posted here on this board (and reproduced above) the Doctor believes that the Vatican’s stand against using condoms is contributing greatly to the spread of AIDS.
He has claimed that millions have AIDs because of that and it is unrealistic.
While it is true that the non use of condoms has contributed to the spread of aids, I disagree with the May’s conclusion because of the following
There is no proof that not using condoms because of the Church’s teaching has caused anything like the magnitude claimed.
Fact by far the greatest cause of the spread of AID is sexual activity.
Fact condoms do fail it has been proven so.
Fact people who have illicit sex and not interested in sexual morality and care less about what the pope says if they even know what he says.
Fact the sexual revolution encourages people to have sex out of wedlock.
Fact those who have several sex partners are much more likely to get AIDS than those who do not.
Fact the greatest spread of AIDS is in Africa.
Fact millions of people in Africa work for one dollar or less per day. It is very unlikely that they would buy condoms even if they were available which in many places they are not.
Is it not reasonable to say that if everyone practiced their sexual activities according to the Church’s teaching there would be no AIDS epidemic?
The Church’s teaching is for Catholics. Few if any of those who are not Catholic are influenced by Catholic teaching on that matter.
Catholics who do follow the Churches teaching do not get AIDS unless their spouse has been infected.
What makes May think that the pope’s stand (which is the Church’s teaching) has any effect on those who do not follow the teaching in sexual morality. That they will have immoral sex which is taught against but not use condoms because the pope says they should not. LOL. It is ridiculous.
I suggest that the Lord May should put the blame in the spread of AIDS where it belongs, on promiscuity and adultery and rape, not on the pope or any other one person or the Vatican’s teaching on sexual morality.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

sapphire630 answered on 12/05/05:

I have been saying some of these things for years. Cond-ems are made in a way that makes them not 100% reliable. People believe the churches teaching is archaic and out dated, so I guess they must believe that the modern way is risk it.

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HANK1 asked on 12/05/05 - JUST WONDERING ...



... where Hell is!

HANK

sapphire630 answered on 12/05/05:

spend one day in the day and life of me and you will see!

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paraclete asked on 11/30/05 - Great news - Limbo abolished

Lose limbo, but salvage purgatory



December 1, 2005
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The Vatican is moving to consign its dead letter office to the dim past, writes Paul Collins.

IT HAS gradually drifted into a state of limbo itself over the past few decades, and now the Catholic Church is moving to make it official, deciding to review limbo, the place between heaven and hell, with the aim of getting it off the books altogether.

In the tradition of the Catholic Church, limbo was where the unbaptised went after death - and there was no way out. Limbo was also home to the likes of Moses, Plato and Abraham, and a legion of others from the ancient world.

A sort of dead letter office, limbo was cut out of official church teachings in 1992, although for many years the concept had been largely ignored. And now, the church's leading theologians are meeting to consider formally cutting limbo out all together.

Unlike purgatory, where the dead could eventually graduate to heaven, those stuck in limbo were, well, in limbo, even though they may not have done anything evil that would have banished them from heaven.

For some older Catholics, limbo caused enormous grief. A mother who miscarried suffered from the knowledge that the soul of her baby would be lost forever in limbo, a place between heaven and hell through no fault of their own, for example.

As a concept, limbo really took hold in the Catholic Church in the Middle Ages, arising out of debate about the concept of original sin.

Even though he died about 425, Pelagius, a theologian from Britain, was a modern sort of chap. He believed in what today we'd probably call self-actualisation. In other words we can do good for ourselves and others by the sheer force of our natural, God-given willpower.

Pelagius was something of a hit in aristocratic circles, especially in Rome in the late fourth century, but his teaching annoyed Saint Augustine, bishop of Hippo in North Africa. Augustine believed in original sin: the state of sin we inherited from Adam and Eve when they disobeyed God and were cast out of Eden.

Augustine maintained you could do good only with God's help and grace. And because we were all born in original sin, unless you were baptised in the one, true church, you were off to hell. Trapped by his own logic, he allowed no exceptions. He simply assumed that many, if not most, were damned.

Augustine's theology was deeply influential on many thinkers in the Middle Ages. They believed in the necessity of baptism for salvation. Yet many children died before baptism could be administered. Did they go to hell, even though they had done no evil? And the medievals were also worried about the good people and saints from the Old Testament, like the great prophets. What happened to them?

Now that The RCC has got serious about Reformation, I wonder what other doctrines might be thrown out as Anachronistic. Perhaps we should trot out Luthers 95 thesis and nail them to the cathedral door again?

sapphire630 answered on 11/30/05:

Geesh, if limbo is done away with WHERE will all the people already in limbo go to!?


That is one of the reasons I have a problem with *religion*---man made teachings!

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Choux asked on 11/30/05 - Resuming God Love

I'm going to take God back into my life and enjoy the pleasure of knowing God. God is a mystery....I shouldn't let that bother me when loving God is such a pleasure.

Shocking news of the day!!

Mary Sue

sapphire630 answered on 11/30/05:

One step is better than none.

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HANK1 asked on 11/30/05 - JUST WONDERING ...



what management is doing to advertise Answerway. We need Anonymous Users to keep this Board alive.

HANK

sapphire630 answered on 11/30/05:

I think there are about (almost) enough unknowns---
Beezleblub for one.

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Pete_Hanysz asked on 11/30/05 - Board name change?

Do you think the time has come to change the name of this board to:
The I can't think of anything interesting to say, so I'll paste some my net browsings board?

sapphire630 answered on 11/30/05:

I guess we ran out of
acceptable
"Christianity" board topics.

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paraclete asked on 11/29/05 - Tell me now is this justice or stupidity?

Alimony is something that should be abolished in a modern society but this is rediculous,and just one more reason why you would not want to be a Muslim.

ws Home | Story
Man ordered into 10,000-year divorce payout
From: Agence France-Presse
From correspondents in Tehran, Iran

November 30, 2005


AN Iranian man has been ordered by a divorce court to pay his ex-wife one gold coin a month in alimony for the next 10,000 years.

Under Iran's marriage law, couples sign a pre-marital agreement where the bride must stipulate the level of compensation they can demand during the marriage or in the event of separation and divorce.

In this case the Tehran woman, who was not named, had asked for $US15 million ($20.25 million) worth of gold coins, a state newspaper said.

The court ruled the husband should pay her the coins in single monthly instalments, meaning his debt will stay with him for 10,333 years. .

sapphire630 answered on 11/30/05:

I wonder how she plans to collect from him in
say about 75 years from now?

Maybe he will be too busy with 72 virgins by then

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arcura asked on 11/29/05 - What is the USA Homeland Security doing to help.....

indiiviual Americans who use the internet?
Look here....
http://onguardonline.gov/index.html

sapphire630 answered on 11/30/05:

People don't believe it, but it is true.
What the government is doing is putting chips in the internet (Dell has started already) and chips in the GPS mapping systems (Onstar has them already).
Yeap swear to God, tracking chips are going to be in everything someday. They will be more common than the bar codes.
Don't believe me

http://www.intermec.com

http://www.spychips.com/

well I am debating if I want a new laptop
After all I have nothing to hide:)----so far.

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HANK1 asked on 11/30/05 - COUNTING $$$:



I've asked several young check-out clerks at a local Super Market to manually count my change back to me after adding up my purchases. None could. Back to the computer they went.

Why can't some of our young people count change?

HANK

sapphire630 answered on 11/30/05:

They are too busy in the schools teaching kids how to put condoms on pickles and then sneaking the girls off to the abortion clinic
so their parents don't find out.

Go to google and type in the search engine

outcome based education and nazism


Have fun reading.

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Laura asked on 11/30/05 - Justice...NOT!!! Help set this man free!!!

http://www.wtvt.com/investreptr/small-town-justice.html
Small Town Justice
November 10, 2005

Paramedics respond to the accident
which killed Nona and Lindsey Moore.


Wauchula isn't the kind of town you just stumble upon by accident. Way off the beaten path, square in the middle of Florida, it's a picture of rural, small town America. It's a place built around family, faith, and Friday night football. But Wauchula was forever changed by something that happened one Friday night four years ago on the night of May 11, 2001, an accident this community would never forgive.

Nona Moore, a mother of three young girls had grown up in Wauchula. She was heading home on a narrow two lane road that night. Her family remembers when they were called to the scene.

"When we got out there finally and parked it looked like daylight because there were so many floodlights. And maybe 100 people were out there already." Said Beth Jahna, Nona Moore's sister.



Nona Moore and her daughter Lindsey died in the crash.


That's when Jahna learned the terrible truth about her sister's accident. The driver of a truck loaded with tomatoes lost control, crossed the center line and rolled on top of the Moore family's van.

"I heard horns beeping and my mom was screaming," remembers Ashley Moore, 16, the oldest of Nona Moore's daughters. "The last thing I remember is her saying is help us Jesus, we're going to crash."
Thanks to quick work by paramedics, Ashley, now 16, and her younger sister Haley, now 10, survived. But Nona Moore, 40, and Lindsey Moore, 8, died at the scene. A family and a town were left heart broken.

"I think the community lost two people they loved dearly and someone had to pay." Jahna told us.



Jean Claude Meus is serving 15 years in prison for vehicular homicide.


That someone was the truck driver, Jean Claude Meus, an immigrant from Haiti. Prosecutors filed 2 counts of vehicular homicide against him.

"We were in disbelief," says Rebecca Chenowith who is engaged to marry Jean Claude Meus. "We thought they'd at least see it was an accident. There was no justification for it."

Blood tests show that Meus was not on drugs and had not been drinking. There was also no evidence to prove that he had been speeding. But prosecutors were convinced that his actions were criminal. Records show hours after the accident occurred, a trooper says Meus fell asleep in the back of a patrol car and concluded that before the accident, Meus must have fallen asleep at the wheel.
The truck driver was tried in the Hardee County Courthouse in Wauchula. It took an all-white jury less than an hour to reach the verdict: Guilty of Vehicular Manslaughter.

Judge Charles B. Curry sentenced Meus to 15 years in prison, an almost unheard of punishment for falling asleep at the wheel and causing a fatal accident.

"There are people who have DUI manslaughter who have not gotten that kind of time," argues Chenowith. "Literally drunk, killed lots of people and did not get that kind of time."

"If I fall asleep, I say I fall asleep." Meus told us, his thick Haitian accent apparent even though he has lived in the United States for more than 20 years.

Meus has never changed his story. He says the accident happened because a white car cut him off. He swerved to avoid a crash, but lost control and flipped over on the Moore's van.

"I stayed, I called the police," Meus said, "I did not leave the scene."

Meus says the trooper who saw him in the patrol car misunderstood. He was not sleepy, but just disoriented and confused after hitting his head on the windshield of his truck during the crash. He says he slept 10 hours before he got on the road and has the paperwork to back up his claim.

"I wasn't doing anything reckless to cause the accident." Meus says and he has some surprising allies in his fight to be released from prison.



Dana Christenson and Beth Jahna say their sister would not want Meus in prison.


"An accident is an accident." Said Beth Jahna. "And Jean Claude Meus should not be in prison."

Nona Moore's sisters are convinced Meus did not fall asleep, but they say there was no way for him to get a fair trial in Wauchula because emotions were running high.

"I heard people were high five-ing each other as they were doing jury selection." said Dana Christenson, Nona Moore's older sister. "I know that two women high fived each other when one made the jury. I think they wanted to burn him."

Court records show four of the six jurors had read all about the accident in the local paper. Two of them knew one of the troopers who investigated the accident and testified at trial. Did they carefully consider the evidence or make up their minds in advance? None of the jurors really wanted to talk. But one woman on the jury reluctantly agreed if we didn't show her face.



A member of the jury tells Doug Smith she has doubts about the case.


Doug Smith: Did the prosecution really prove that he was asleep.

Juror: No, I don't think so.

Doug Smith: If the prosecution didn't prove that he was asleep at the wheel, how did the jury decide to convict him of that?

Juror: Because he was the driver and there were two people dead.

"They had to channel their anger somewhere." Beth Jahna believes. "I think they meant well, but they just didn't think of the consequence or how severe it might be for him, for Jean Claude."

He's now inmate H17740. An educated man who speaks five languages is learning how to survive in prison while his fiancée and Nona Moore's sisters fight for his freedom. They're writing letters to the state attorney and making phone calls, but they say nobody wants to hear it.

"They pretty much told me to stop calling." Dana Christenson said.

Both sisters say Nona Moore would not have wanted Jean Claude Meus to go to prison, and his deep sorrow over the accident is punishment enough.

"It's very emotional when you see somebody lose their life." Meus told us wiping tears from his eyes. "Some things you cannot change."



Haley and Ashley Moore who survived the crash say they forgive Meus.


The two girls who survived the accident also say they forgive him.

"You've already lost two lives over this," says Ashley Moore. "Why lose another?"

Meus has served just seven months of his 15-year sentence. He's already appealed his case once and lost. He's now hired high-profile criminal attorney John Trevena to take a closer look at his situation. Despite all that's happened, Meus still hasn't lost hope.

"This is the best country in the world," he said. "People can see justice, and they can see injustice. Somebody will step up and help me."

Fox 13 contacted Judge Charles B. Curry and the State Attorney"s Office, but no one involved with this case would agree to an interview.


If you believe that this conviction was an injustice as the accident victims family does you can sign a petition asking Governer Bush to have this man's conviction overturned.

The website is: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/882066540?ltl=1133367697

sapphire630 answered on 11/30/05:

It does amaze me how the justice system is so contradictory to itself. I see it all the time. Judges that are in lalaland because they made their minds up before the court hearing, lawyers deceiving the jury, etc....
I have read so many stories where the person did get off not guilty because they did not have criminal intent.
In Butler, Pa there was an honor roll student that made a left hand turn and hit and killed a guy on a motorcycle. They gave her community service and said they knew she didn't mean to.

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ETWolverine asked on 11/30/05 - Some more information on Global Warming...

... and the Kyoto protocals. Found at http://www.sepp.org/reality/ceodoeshomework.html

The following article, which appeared in the Calgary (Canada) Herald, is written by the president and CEO of IPSCO Inc., a steel scrap recycling business that would benefit from provisions of the Kyoto Protocol. This CEO, however, is also a physicist.

Copyright 1999 Southam Inc.
Calgary Herald (Canada)
February 27, 1999,
"Why the Kyoto greenhouse gases accord is full of hot air "
By Roger Phillips, For the Herald


The following is an edited text of a speech delivered Feb. 11 to the Calgary Chamber of Commerce by Roger Phillips, president and CEO of IPSCO Inc.

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I hope you all enjoyed summer. Reports show it was one of the best in recent memory for most parts of Canada. Some attribute this to El Nino, the somewhat mysterious effect of periodically changing seawater temperatures in the Pacific Ocean off Peru. Others will suggest it is a manifestation of so- called ''global warming.''

Think back for a minute to when you were much younger and reflect on past weather conditions. We all remember particularly hot or wet summers. We remember harsh winters, winters without enough snow for skiing, and I am sure the people of Toronto will remember the snow of this winter, supposedly the most since 1873 or some such year.

A series of cold winters in the 1970s prompted many so-called experts to predict an early return to the ice ages. Ironically many of these same ''experts'' now claim pronounced global warming has set in. The truth about weather and temperature is that they are changing all the time.

Scientific studies tell us that over the past 2.5 billion years there have been seven ice ages, times when Calgary was covered in ice up to 9,800 feet thick. The annual average temperature over the globe today is about 15 degreesC. When an ice age occurs, the average world temperature falls to about 8 degreesC, or seven to eight degrees below today.

But between ice ages, things warm up. Going back three billion years, we can see that four lengthy periods when the Earth was much colder than today occurred in the period up to 225 million years ago. But much of that earlier time saw warmer periods . . . almost all of the past 225 million years have been warmer than today, with the recurrence of ice ages about 750,000 years ago for about 50,000 years, and repeating about 330,000 years ago and again 60,000 years ago.

In between, the weather warmed up to what is thought to be somewhat above today's temperatures. Scientists believe that the alternate periods of cooler and warmer weather are chiefly related to changes in the position of Earth's orbit relative to the sun, the ultimate source of Earth's warmth.

However, the periodic changes in the sun's brightness (the brighter the sun, the warmer the Earth), change in the concentration of carbon dioxide and methane in the atmosphere for natural reasons, and volcanic activity is also thought to play a role.

Long-term weather is just as complex, it seems, as short-term forecasting. Looking at the past 65 million years you might conclude the trend is a cooling one, with ice ages occurring more frequently.

But looking at the past 20,000 years or so, one might conclude things are warming. Looking at only 1,000 years of history, we note that between about 1400 AD and 1650 AD the average global temperature fell one degree. During the earlier 1000-1300 AD warmer period, the Vikings colonized Greenland -- so named for its then green pastures on its southeastern coast -- and grapevines grew in southern Britain. In the cooler period that followed, the Seine froze over in winter and grapevines disappeared from Britain. They have since returned.

I have gone into all this pre-industrial weather history to demonstrate three things:

1. Earth's overall weather and temperature pattern varies between ice ages and warm periods.

2. The cause of these changes is not completely understood, but certainly they have not been due to man, since the extensive use of fossil fuels is a recent development and in any event we have only been around for 250,000 years.

3. Where exactly we are in the cycle is unclear because it takes centuries to discern a statistical trend.

We know that the average temperature in the world today is, despite current warming trends, somewhat lower than it has been for most of the time man has walked the Earth. Probably, though not certainly, left to its own devices, the weather will warm up before it eventually cools off and we experience an all-but-certain future ice age.

If natural forces have the world locked into unchangeable cold and warm weather cycles, what was all the clamour about global warming which led up to the Kyoto Agreement of December, 1997?

It is an accepted scientific fact that carbon dioxide and other so-called greenhouse gases in the atmosphere have been present in higher concentrations whenever the global average temperature has also been higher. For instance, the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere rose dramatically at the end of the last ice age.

Please do not mix up greenhouse gas emissions with pollutants, however. Carbon dioxide, the principal greenhouse gas, is colourless and chemically inert. It is one of the products of burning fossil fuels like oil, natural gas, wood or coal. Humans exhale carbon dioxide with every breath. Paradoxically, pollutants, such as the white fume in your gas exhausts and sulphur from fuel burning, are thought to reduce global warming.

The recent federal government decision to lower the permitted sulphur levels in gasoline will result in a cleaner atmosphere for our cities -- but will enhance global warming.

But back to greenhouse gases. What is not known is by how much they affect temperature, if at all, or if the concentration of greenhouse gases is an effect of higher temperatures, rather than a cause. This is because we know that the oceans, soil and vegetation on our globe contain something like 42,000 billion tonnes of greenhouse gases and the atmosphere contains another 750 billion tonnes. There is a constant interchange of these gases between the two reservoirs.

Each year, about 157 billion tonnes of CO2 or equivalent leaves Earth and is absorbed in the atmosphere. Most of this is natural, but six billion tonnes, or four per cent, is man-made, the product chiefly of the combustion of fossil fuels and changing land use. But about 154 billion tonnes returns to be absorbed by plant life, or reabsorbed in the soil and the oceans. Thus, despite the huge expiration of gases from Earth, the amount retained by the atmosphere is really small, approximately two per cent.

Some scientists believe that if the man-made portion of greenhouse gases were cut back, the increases in atmospheric concentration of greenhouse gases would cease. But this is like saying that nature can tell the difference between CO2 made by man and that arising naturally. In other words, it assumes that nature sorts out the 157 billion tonnes a year rising into the atmosphere and somehow says these are caused naturally, let's send them back to Earth.

Accurate observations of the precise amounts of gas involved in these exchanges are difficult to make, but it turns out that when the total amount of CO2 emanations from Earth's surface drops, a smaller proportion is returned. In other words, a cutback in man-made gas emissions would lower the atmospheric CO2 by less than the amount of the cutback. A further observation is that the amount of year-to-year increase in the atmospheric concentration of greenhouse gases is independent on the total amount of emissions.

More gas is retained in warmer years and less in cooler years, regardless of emission levels. Some scientists suggest this means something other than greenhouse gases causes temperature variations. Possibly the existence of a warmer atmosphere merely necessitates that more greenhouse gases be retained in the atmosphere in order to obtain equilibrium. This is certainly a plausible explanation for earlier climate changes.

Another theory was developed by reviewing past temperatures, chiefly since 1850 or sometimes 1900, and assuming that all temperature change since is due to increases in these gases. While this conveniently ignores three billion years of climate history during which man-made greenhouse gases could not have been a factor, it certainly gives us a worse-case scenario.

By ignoring all other potential causes for recent climate history, this method projects the average annual temperature to rise by 2 degreesC by the year 2100, assuming modest economic growth in developed countries and with the developing countries gradually reaching our standard of living, driving more cars, and using air conditioning in their better and bigger homes, over and above basic industrial use of energy in their economies.

The models predicting global warming due to man-made gas emissions suggest it would be seen primarily in warmer winters, warmer nighttime temperatures, and warmer Arctic and Antarctic weather. Closer to the equator, the change would be less pronounced. The level of water in the oceans would probably rise by about 0.5 metres. Fearmongers have predicted drought areas in Canada, not to mention the invasion of tigers and lions, but the basic models suggest a warmer and somewhat wetter climate. A quick approximation would be to look at today's climate 100 miles to your south.

I mentioned that winters would warm up more than summers. On this basis the average winter temperature in Calgary would rise to -7.6 degreesC from -9.6 degreesC. (Note today's winter average temperature at Cardston is -6.4 degreesC). While this may seem to be no big deal, it is what Kyoto was designed to change.

Canada has committed to reduce its so-called greenhouse gas emissions by seven per cent from 1990, which means 15 per cent from today. Most of these emissions come from natural gas or oil used to heat homes, offices, and factories, gasoline used in personal and commercial transport, agriculture (methane from flatulent cows and carbon dioxide from the use of farm equipment), and the CO2 resulting from steam generation from coal or gas to produce electricity. Even if industrial activity (except transportation) were brought to zero, we would still have to cut back on personal heating and transportation to achieve the eventual requirements of Kyoto. Remember that Kyoto prescribes total emission reductions.

Each year after 2010, individual consumption must drop to counteract population growth to meet the fixed target. Assume the population grows at only one per cent per annum. This means that by 2100, each Canadian will have to reduce her or his personal consumption of energy, drive less and have cooler or smaller houses to reduce heating needs in winter to 33 per cent of today's level.

Since signing Kyoto, the Canadian government has not widely distributed weather predictions based on the accord, although they have a new one. Guess what? Even if Canadians are prepared for the personal sacrifice of far less car usage and smaller, cooler houses in winter and even if all the other developed countries ratify the Kyoto accord, the average world temperature will rise 1.8 degreesC instead of 2 degreesC. A big sacrifice for little result.

Cutting back emissions doesn't stop the increase in greenhouse gases in the atmosphere -- it merely slows the increase. And the theory says the more gas the higher the temperature. To stabilize today's temperature, we need to stop any net emissions of greenhouse gases. The combustion of any fuel creates CO2, a greenhouse gas. Crudely speaking we must go back to the days before our ancestors used fire to cook.

Developing countries have no obligation under Kyoto, so their emissions will increase faster and faster as they industrialize. Assume that if instead of allowing people in developing countries to increase their living standards, we convinced them to lower their living standards and accept a similar cut in total annual emissions to that of the Kyoto signatories. The predicted temperature in 2100 would still be significantly above today's, 1.5 degreesC rather than 2 degreesC.

The bottom line if global warming is caused by greenhouse gases:

o No matter what reasonable cutbacks in annual emissions are made, we won't change the warming trend.

o Even with draconian restrictions on the standards of living of Asians and Africans, things will still warm up.

o Worse, if it turns out that other factors are the major cause of global warming (as has been the case in the past) then the proposed sacrifices will make even less difference.

The children's fairytale of the emperor's new clothes comes to mind. A charlatan approaches the emperor promising him a new suit of a magnificence never before seen. As a further inducement the new clothes were to have magical properties -- only persons of superior intelligence will be able to appreciate the special qualities of the suit. You know the rest. The fake tailor pretended to fit out the king but in reality there was no suit at all. Not wishing to appear stupid, the king praised the quality, although, of course, he saw nothing. A parade was held to show off the new finery. The populace stared in disbelief as the nude king walked down the main street. No one dared to admit they were stupid so they all cheered and commented on the finery. Then a child yelled out, ''The emperor has no clothes,'' and the bubble burst.

I submit to you that the federal government has repeated this fairytale with a twist. The Kyoto accord is nude, just like the emperor.

Now some have criticized me saying my opposition to Kyoto is self-serving. Although my company is in the steel industry, which is threatened by arbitrary greenhouse gas emission controls, IPSCO would actually benefit since we are a steel scrap recycler and don't use coke to make steel out of iron-ore, thus using far less energy and producing less CO2. Further, we are a pipe producer and much of the pipe we make is used for natural gas transmission that should increase with Kyoto. So you see my interest is that of a long-term thinker, not a short-term opportunist.

Others have suggested that as a businessman I am not qualified to comment on scientific issues. To the contrary, I am a physicist, entitled to call myself a chartered physicist and was elected a fellow of the Institute of Physics of the United Kingdom in 1997.

Being a scientist doesn't make someone infallible and indeed there are global emission doomsayers in the scientific community. But an ability to sort out scientific arguments certainly puts me ahead of politicians and bureaucrats.

Kyoto means needless sacrifices for all of us with no payback. This doesn't mean energy conservation is bad -- to the contrary. Saving energy has a good payback as long as we don't reduce our ability to grow new jobs and doesn't lower our standard of living, which would be the effect of the Kyoto limits.

Elliot

sapphire630 answered on 11/30/05:

I need to know where (and when) the National park is I want to go to the Texas Barbque too!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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excon asked on 11/30/05 - The Constitution - Lesson #2


Hello Christians:

When a government employee is forbidden from promoting religion, it's the fault of:

(a) the devil
(b) the ACLU
(c) the far left
(d) those ungodly athiests
(e) excon
(f) the Constitution

Let's review:

The First Amendment to the Constitution clearly prohibits government employees, WHEN ON THE CLOCK, from LEADING or ORGANIZING a prayer group. When NOT on the clock, the Constitution does NOT prohibit him from leading or organizing anything he chooses.

It is NOT unconstitutional, however, (although it is most likely against work rules), for a government employee to pray at work.

The reasons for this are obvious. It would be reasonable to assume (especially for an underling), that when you’re on the bosses time, what you DO represents the boss. The boss, in the case of the government worker, is the government. The government, Constitutionally, must not promote religion. Therefore, prayer organized or lead by government employees while on the clock, is, and clearly should be prohibited.

That is what's so. That's an American "value". What's wrong with it?

excon

PS. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know we've been doing it for a long time. We also had laws that enslaved people, and stopped women from voting. We also made the mistake of bringing religion into the fold of government, contrary to the Constitution. It's going to change. You'll be free to pray as much as you like. The government just won't be supporting you in that endeavor.

It's a good thing.

My fellow exconvict says that.

Ok, here's the question: Do you like it?

excon

sapphire630 answered on 11/30/05:

If you pray one way, as the Bible says, people do not even know you are praying and they can't take that away.
I agree that if you are on government or employed time you should have your organizied
prayer time off the clock just as any other meetings that any other group is entitled to. You are not being paid to pray, but to make money for the company.

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CeeBee2 asked on 11/29/05 - I'm still stuck on this one..............

The University of Wisconsin–Eau Claire (UWEC), in Eau Claire, Wisconsin, has banned resident assistants (RAs) from leading Bible studies in their own dormitories. The university claims the ban is necessary because some students might not feel RAs who lead Bible studies are "approachable."

As I understand it --

Religious study is not forbidden in the dorms.

It is forbidden only if an RA is the leader of the study group.

RAs can belong to any religious study group, as long as they don't lead it.

Religious groups can meet in the dorm hallway, activities room, or in a student's room.

No religious rights are being taken away.

Please explain if I am incorrect.

sapphire630 answered on 11/29/05:

To understand rights better than any misinformation check

http://aclj.org/

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revdauphinee asked on 11/29/05 - Lost in the Service

Lost in the Service

One Sunday morning, the pastor noticed little Johnny standing in the foyer of the church, looking at a large plaque that hung there. After the young man of seven had stood there for some time, the pastor walked up beside him and said quietly,

"Good morning, son."

"Good morning, Pastor," replied the youngster, not taking his eyes off the plaque. "Can I ask you, Sir, what is this for? Why are all these names listed on here?"

"Well, son, these are all the people who have died in the service," replied the pastor. Soberly, they stood together, staring up at the large plaque.

Little Johnny's voice barely broke the silence when he asked quietly, "Which one, Sir, the 8:30 or the 10:30?"

sapphire630 answered on 11/29/05:

I like his 2 plus 2 logic BUT most of us wouldn't have made it past his age if it did equal 4.

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revdauphinee asked on 11/29/05 - Church membership

many folks talk about church membership as if this automatically opens the Pearly Gates to sinners. Friends, a church role is not God's book of life. Occupying a pew will not make one a child of God. A rusty wheelbarrow does not become a Cadillac by occupying space at the G. M. dealership. A woman does not become an old hen by sitting in a chicken coop. She may do a lot of cackling, but she is still a Miss-or is it Mrs., or is, it Ms. People and things, are not changed (presto) by such situations, and sinners are not saved by sitting on sanctified, foam padded pews. It takes an experience with the Lord Jesus Christ.

sapphire630 answered on 11/29/05:

Yep, I know, I occupy space in the garage my friends work at occasionally and it ain't made me a mechanic or an auto body tech or painter yet...Although I have learned to wet sand.

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arcura asked on 11/28/05 - No religious studying in private! What's next????

Did you hear about the University of Wisconsin -- Eau Claire (UWEC) banning resident assistants (RAs) from leading Bible studies in their own dormitories
An UWEC official sent RAs a letter forbidding them from leading Bible studies because students might conclude that such RAs were not "approachable." Don't laugh. Violators, warned the letter, would be subject to disciplinary action. Of course, the letter also purported to prohibit Koran and Torah studies.
So much for freedom of religion! Students cannot study their religion even in the privacy of theie dorm rooms.
What’s next?

sapphire630 answered on 11/29/05:

Another one for ACLJ. They do fight that it is a right to be allowed to have Bible studies on school property as long as it is not school sponsered, endorsed or anything to do with the school.

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paraclete asked on 11/29/05 - US actions on climate change are next to none!

What an extraordinary statement, Does this actually mean the US is doing nothing? What a great attitude from a government led by a Christian. we are next to none and yet we don't take the most basic step of lining up with the rest of the world. I think this is a bad case of not made here.

U.S. defends climate change position
Biggest global warming conference since Kyoto begins in Canada

Tuesday, November 29, 2005 Posted: 0325 GMT (1125 HKT)


MONTREAL, Canada (AP) -- U.S. officials told a U.N. conference on climate change that their government was doing more than most to protect the earth's atmosphere.

In response, leading environmental groups blasted Washington for refusing to sign the Kyoto Protocol, a global treaty that aims to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

Canada opened the 10-day U.N. Climate Control Conference on Monday, with about 10,000 experts from 180 nations, to brainstorm on ways to slow the alarming effects of greenhouses gases and global warming. The conference aims to forge new agreements on cutting poisonous emissions, considered by many scientists to be the planet's most pressing environmental issue.

Dr. Harlan L. Watson, senior climate negotiator for the U.S. Department of State, said that while President George W. Bush declined to join the treaty, the U.S. leader takes global warming seriously. He noted greenhouse gas emissions had actually gone down by .8 percent under Bush.

"With regard to what the United States is doing on climate change, the actions we have taken are next to none in the world," Watson told The Associated Press on the sidelines of the conference.

He is leading a delegation of dozens of American officials at the conference and will be joined by U.S. Undersecretary of State Paula Dobriansky next week, when 120 government ministers arrive for the high-profile final negotiations.

Watson said the United States spends more than US$5 billion (euro4.3 billion) a year on efforts to slow the deterioration of the earth's atmosphere by supporting climate change research and technology, and that Bush had committed to cutting greenhouses gases some 18 percent by 2012.

Elizabeth May of the Sierra Club Canada, however, accused the world's biggest polluter of trying to derail the Kyoto accord.

"We have a lot of positive, constructive American engagement here in Montreal -- and none of it's from the Bush administration, which represents the single biggest threat to global progress," May said, adding that Washington had "continually tried to derail" the Kyoto process.

The United States, the world's largest emitter of greenhouse gases, has refused to ratify the Kyoto Protocol, saying it would harm the U.S. economy and is flawed by the lack of restrictions on emissions by emerging economic powers such as China and India.

In the first ever meeting of all 140 signatories of the 1997 Kyoto Protocol, Canada's Environment Minister Stephane Dion is juggling the presidency of the 11th U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Control while facing the imminent collapse of his country's government.

No-confidence vote

Opposition leaders have garnered enough votes in the House of Commons to topple Prime Minister Paul Martin's minority government in a no-confidence vote Monday night, forcing him to dissolve Parliament and set a day for national elections in January. (Full story)

Though Dion would remain in office, he would also be called upon to begin campaigning for his Liberal Party and could be mightily distracted. Opening the conference, Dion vowed to stay the course and described climate change as "the greatest environment hazard" facing mankind.

"Tragic experiences in many countries over the last year have once again reminded us of the world's vulnerability to climate-related disasters and highlighted the urgent need for adaptation" to rising sea levels, glacial melting and warmer atmospheric temperatures, he said.

The Kyoto accord, negotiated in Japan's ancient capital of Kyoto, targets carbon dioxide and five other heat-trapping gases blamed for rising global temperatures that many scientists say are disrupting weather patterns.

The treaty, which went into effect in February, calls on the top 35 industrialized nations to cut emissions by 5.2 percent below their 1990 levels by 2012.

This conference will set agreements on how much more emissions should be cut after 2012, when the Kyoto Protocol expires, though signatories are already falling short of their targets.

Canada is up there with Spain, Ireland, Greece and five other nations as having the biggest increases in gas emissions. According to the United Nations, Spain is the worst, with a nearly 42 percent increase in emissions between 1990 and 2003; Canada stands at 24 percent and the United States experienced an increase of 13 percent.

The Kyoto accord was delayed by the requirement that countries accounting for 55 percent of the world's emissions must ratify it. That goal was finally reached -- nearly seven years after the pact was negotiated -- with Russia's approval last year.

The targets vary by region: The European Union initially committed to cutting emissions to 8 percent below 1990 levels; the United States agreed to a 7 percent reduction before Bush denounced the pact in 2001, saying it would cost too much and exacerbate an already bothersome energy problem for the world's largest consumer of fossil fuels.

Beyond the Kyoto deadline, the European Union appears to be taking the lead, endorsing a plan in June to bring emissions of greenhouses gases down 15 percent to 30 percent below 1990 levels by 2020.

As signatories to Kyoto's parent treaty, the U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change, Washington is still an active participant at the conference, even if it says it prefers investments in climate science and technology rather than mandatory emissions caps.

Many had hoped Canada would persuade its neighbor to join the Kyoto fold, though Washington no longer has that option.

"I will certainly welcome any idea that may bring the United States closer to Canada, Europe, Japan, England and other countries as partners in this convention," Dion said. "We cannot do without the Americans because they represent 25 percent of emissions, and an even greater percentage of the solution."

Copyright 2005 The Associated Press

sapphire630 answered on 11/29/05:

Well we now have an impending ice age on its way to ward off the global warming.
I am ready to move to the equator!
Keep sending the global warming though, I can use it!

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excon asked on 11/29/05 - The Good Lord


Hello Christians:

A blonde wanted to go ice fishing. She'd seen many books on the subject, and finally getting all the necessary tools together, she made for the ice.

After positioning her comfy footstool, she started to make a circular cut in the ice. Suddenly, from the sky, a voice boomed,

"THERE ARE NO FISH UNDER THE ICE."

Startled, the blonde moved further down the ice, poured a thermos of cappuccino, and began to cut yet another hole. Again from the heavens the voice bellowed,

"THERE ARE NO FISH UNDER THE ICE."

The blonde, now worried, moved away, clear down to the opposite end of the ice. She set up her stool once more and tried again to cut her hole.

The voice came once more,
"THERE ARE NO FISH UNDER THE ICE."

She stopped, looked skyward, and said,
"IS THAT YOU LORD?"

The voice replied,

"NO, THIS IS THE MANAGER OF THE HOCKEY RINK"

excon

sapphire630 answered on 11/29/05:

What a waste of cappuccino...BTW what happened to all the fish anyway?

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tomder55 asked on 11/29/05 - Global Warming facts

It is often reported that President Bush rejected the Kyoto treaty in 2001. But did you know that the U.S. Senate directed President Clinton to reject the impending treaty in 1997 with the Byrd-Hagel (bipartisan) Resolution ?


It is often reported in the press that the United States produces 25 percent of the world's industrial greenhouse gases. But did you know that North America consumes more greenhouse gases than it produces?
The fact is that while the North American continent emits about 1.6 billion metric tons of carbon every year, North American carbon sinks actually absorb 1.7 billion tons of atmospheric carbon every year. North America is therefore a net consumer of carbon dioxide. The same is not true of the European nations, who essentially see their emissions cleaned up by North American or other carbon sinks.

More than one scientist believes that there is not a trend towards global warming, but rather an impending ice age .

sapphire630 answered on 11/29/05:

I read that and I think the global warming is baloney. I really don't think we will have an actual ice age but more likely than the supposed global warming....(anyone believing in global warming still feel free to send me theirs!)
If I remember right the ice age article said if you want to know what your weather will be in a few years from now just see what the weather is 100 miles north of you now.....North of you would mean colder NOT warmer! Yep, have to believe that one....
:(

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paraclete asked on 11/28/05 - the spirit of Christmas present, or is it presents?

Settling on the real spirit of Christmas

November 29, 2005

Rowena Macrae confronts a clash of present-giving philosophies.

Dear family,

We have still not resolved our present-giving system for Christmas 2005. I know that the whole one present each thing felt a little Lutheran last year. It definitely didn't give us the Norman Rockwell-esque coverage under the Christmas tree that we'd hoped for, but big thanks to whoever piled the empty gift-wrapped shoe boxes around the tree for added effect. Or were these in fact gifts for an absent Zen master?

This year, it seems we have a frustrating clash of present-giving philosophies. One of you insists on the old one-present, one-person rule, with a maximum value of $30.

Grandfather John, on the other hand, has cited the grandfather clause and says that, as a distant relative of Santa, he is entitled to buy a gift for each of his children, their spouses and his four grandsons. The only condition is that the gift must be from a list of suggestions provided by the recipient and ideally certified by a justice of the peace.

Personally I accept this wanton generosity under legal advice and my solicitor will provide a memorandum of instruction with gift ideas. There will be a small festive season charge for his disbursements.

My own gift system expresses the thrift that should lie at the heart of Christmas. I am offering each family member a gift to the value of $5. Send me a stamped, self-addressed envelope and I'll send you a photocopy of the latest catalogue from Loopy Dan's Two Dollar Shop. Please note, don't feel you need to blow the whole $5 if there's something cheaper that you really want. I'd like to have something left in the kitty for next year.

Finally, I notice that one of you wants to buy a present for each of us with no specified budget. You have even offered to mind your nephews while we all go shopping. Forgive me for asking, but have you been getting into the Christmas spirits a little early?

Seriously though, we must resolve this. In honour of the Zen master who never showed up last year, I suggest we give each other boxes of bountiful nothing. Thus, we will return spirituality to Christmas in a truly meaningful and cost-efficient way.

And thinking of spirituality brings me to food. I know of a family that is blessed each Christmas with a gift of steaks from one Margaret B. in return for advice provided by a member of the family. It's fondly referred to as slabs of Margaret. Could you all please check your skill set and see if we could score our deli meats in a similar way?

For those of you tempted to go back to your pagan roots, we don't want any tempeh or not-meat products. We may be thrifty, but we have our dignity, and I need something to go with the mock cranberry sauce I'm buying from Loopy Dan's.

Thanks for reading this, and I look forward to a hotch-potch of presents served with random meats this year. If you think that's not the spirit of Christmas, please submit your proposals now for Christmas 2006.

sapphire630 answered on 11/28/05:

Fo Christmas I want to go to n' Oleans and wrestle gators lookin' for Fats Dominos records he lost in the flood but I am stuck in Pa. wishin' for a globally warm christmas!

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arcura asked on 11/27/05 - My dictionary says that the word "witch" means wicked woman.

And "Wicca" means wicked man or warlock.
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What do you think about this from a Christian point of view?

Wicca's World
Looking Into the Pagan Phenomenon

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands, NOV. 26, 2005
Witchcraft is moving into the mainstream in the Netherlands. A Dutch court has ruled that the costs of witchcraft lessons can be tax-deductible, the Associated Press reported Oct. 31.

The previous month, the Leeuwarden District Court confirmed the legal right to write off the costs of schooling -- including in witchcraft -- against tax bills. The costs can be substantial, according to one witch interviewed for the article.

Margarita Rongen runs the "Witches Homestead" in a northern province. Her workshops cost more than $200 a weekend, or more than $2,600 for a full course. Rongen claims she has trained more than 160 disciples over the past four decades.

In England, meanwhile, Portsmouth's Kingston Prison has hired a pagan priest to give spiritual advice to three inmates serving life sentences, the Telegraph reported Nov. 1. The prisoners have converted to paganism and, according to prison rules, are allowed a chaplain in the same way as those with Christian or other religious faiths. Denying them a pagan chaplain would infringe their human rights, said John Robinson, the prison governor.

Earlier, on Oct. 17, the London-based Times newspaper reported that pagan priests in all prisons will now be allowed to use wine and wands in ceremonies held in jails. The Times noted that under instructions sent to prison governors by Michael Spurr, the director of operations of the Prison Service, inmates practicing paganism will be allowed a hoodless robe, incense and a piece of religious jewelry among their personal possessions.

The governors were given a complete guide to paganism, based on information supplied by the Pagan Federation. Prisoners will also be allowed to practice paganism in their cells, including prayer, chanting and the reading of religious texts and rituals. It is not known how many pagan prisoners are in jails in England and Wales, the Times added.

On the rise

The practice of witchcraft is attracting ever-growing numbers, particularly among young women. A recent attempt to understand its appeal is the book "Wicca's Charm," published in September by Shaw Books.

Authored by journalist Catherine Edwards Sanders, the book stemmed from a magazine article she was commissioned to do. Initially dismissive of Wicca, during her subsequent research Sanders came to appreciate that a genuine spiritual hunger was leading people into neo-pagan practices.

Sanders, a self-professed Christian, defines Wicca as a "polytheistic neo-pagan nature religion inspired by various pre-Christian Western European beliefs, which has as its central deity the Mother Goddess and which includes the use of herbal magic."

The book, which is limited to examining the situation in the United States, admits it is difficult to estimate the number of Wicca adherents. Sanders cites an estimate from one group, the Covenant of the Goddess, which claims around 800,000 Wiccans and pagans in America. A sociologist, Helen Berger, in 1999 put the estimate at 150,000 to 200,000 pagans.

Wicca is made up of many diverse elements, yet Sanders identifies some common beliefs among its followers. They are: All living things are of equal value and humans have no special place, and are not made in God's image; Wiccans believe that they possess divine power within themselves and that they are gods or goddesses; their own personal power is unlimited by any deity; and consciousness can and should be altered through the practice of rite and ritual.

What is important to Wiccans, Sanders explains, is the experience of a spiritual reality, and not truth or a body of knowledge. There is no orthodoxy, defined text, or core beliefs. And, while it has ancient roots, Sanders notes it is attractive to modernity since it can be freely molded to fit the spiritual consumer's desires.

Spell-making is another key element of Wicca. But Sanders notes that of all the Wiccans she spoke to, none entered it in order to use spells to harm people. Most choose Wicca because they are dissatisfied with churches and organized religion and are looking for a spiritual experience they are unable to find elsewhere.

Earthy

Another common trait in Wicca is environmentalism. Modern life has lost its connection to the land, Sanders argues, and Wicca, with its emphasis on nature, seasonal calendars, and the celebrations linked to the changing of the seasons, is both a way to recover this connection and also to spiritualize the relationship with the earth. Many Wiccans also reject the materialistic (but not spiritual) consumer culture.

Pagan and Wiccan groups, in fact, have been present at some of the anti-globalization protests in recent years. Sanders describes some the ceremonies she witnessed in 2002 during the World Economic Forum meeting in New York. They drew attention to such matters as environmental damage, animal welfare and preserving the purity of the water supply.

The ecological aspect of Wicca draws inspiration in part from the so-called Gaia spirituality. Gaia was the earth goddess of the ancient Greeks and in neo-pagan circles she is now transformed into the idea of the earth being one living organism, also called Gaia.

Feminism is another important element attracting people to Wicca. Sanders observes that Wiccan women feel as if Christian churches treat them like second-class citizens, limited to teaching Sunday school.

Sanders estimates that around two-thirds of neo-pagans in the United States are female. Many of them practice a form of goddess worship, commonly in the form of a mother goddess who is a metaphor for the earth. The Wiccan rituals also emphasize the concept of empowerment, and the female biological functions are accorded a respected role.

Added to this is the belief that what today's goddess worshippers are doing is reclaiming the heritage of a primitive world in which a peaceful matriarchal society dominated. This "matriarchal myth" is short on any historical evidence, notes Sanders, but is nonetheless an affirmation that is commonly repeated.

In fact, Sanders devotes a section of the book explaining how the Wiccan rituals and spells have no roots prior to 1900, and are the result of inventions and adaptations by a group of men, notably Aleister Crowley and Gerald Gardner. Far from being a revival of some ancient paganism or matriarchal society, Wicca is a modern, male invention.

Spiritual hunger

The desire to experience spirituality in a more direct and intense way is another factor attracting people to Wicca. Some teen-age girls, Sanders notes, are unsatisfied with the superficial teen culture and are looking for something to give a deeper meaning to their lives.

But, instead of turning to traditional religion to satisfy this need, an increasing number experiment with Wicca. Sanders argues that in part this is the fault of some churches, which have lost sight of the unseen world and the reality of a relationship with Christ and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, reducing their activities to just a social exercise.

Other churches provide little in the way of serious nourishment for inquiring teen-age minds, particularly females ones. Another factor leading adolescents to Wicca instead of Christianity is a desire for rituals and ceremonies. Modern church culture, observes Sanders, has reduced the importance of religious rituals and solemn celebrations, leading people to look for alternatives that offer more tangible supernatural experiences.

In concluding Sanders affirms that her investigations made her more appreciative of the spiritual hunger leading people to experiment with Wicca. At the same time she argues that Christianity offers all of what neo-pagans seek: a message true 2,000 years ago and still valid today.

sapphire630 answered on 11/28/05:

It has been around for awhile. My 21 year old daughter had friends in High school that are wicca. They say they are 'the good white magic'. Whatever they are it doesn't amount to much more than pagan & stonehedge.

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Erewhon asked on 11/28/05 - If Fred has frightened you, better take a look at this ...

I noted that many web sites carried the alarm over mercurial poisoning that Fred has raised. Most of these were either media or written by non-specialists in the field of biochemistry, etc, such as speech therapists, and so forth. I looked for scientific information, and offer this as it stands, although there is more.

Source: http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/vteu.htm

Recent Federal efforts to improve the safety of vaccination have found that it is prudent to remove thimerosal, a possible source of organic mercury, from vaccines routinely given to infants. The University of Rochester VTEU has conducted a study to assess mercury levels in blood, hair, and stool samples from infants who received routine vaccines containing thimerosal. Mercury levels were compared with similar samples from infants who received vaccines without thimerosal.

Several important results have been obtained from this study. Mercury levels in blood were low in all infants studied and uniformly below the Environmental Protection Agency safety guidelines for methyl mercury. Mercury levels in the stool of infants receiving vaccines containing thimerosal were relatively high compared to mercury levels in the stool of infants who were not exposed to thimerosal. These results indicate that thimerosal appears to be removed from the blood and body more rapidly than methyl mercury. Thus, exposure to thimerosal is likely less dangerous than exposure to methyl mercury - and the guidelines for methyl mercury offer an even greater margin of safety.


Source: http://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/thimerosal.htm#t1

Table 1. Thimerosal Content of Vaccines Routinely Recommended for Children 6 Years of Age and Younger - (updated 7/18/2005)

Vaccine Tradename (Manufacturer)* Thimerosal Status Concentration**(Mercury) Approval Date for Thimerosal Free or Thimerosal / Preservative Free (Trace Thimerosal)*** Formulation
DTaP Infanrix (GSK) Free Never contained Thimerosal
Daptacel (AP) Free Never contained Thimerosal
Tripedia (AP) Trace(<0.3 µg Hg/0.5mL dose) 03/07/01
DTaP-HepB-IPV Pediarix (GSK) Trace (<0.0125 µg Hg/0.5mL dose) Never contained more than a Trace of Thimerosal
Pneumococcal conjugate Prevnar (WL) Free Never contained Thimerosal
Inactivated Poliovirus IPOL (AP) Free Never contained Thimerosal
Varicella (chicken pox) Varivax (M) Free Never contained Thimerosal
Mumps, measles, and rubella M-M-R-II (M) Free Never contained Thimerosal
Hepatitis B Recombivax HB (M) Free 08/27/99
Engerix B (GSK) Trace (<0.5 µg Hg/0.5mL dose) 03/28/00
Haemophilus influenzae type b conjugate (Hib) ActHIB (AP)/OmniHIB (GSK) Free Never contained Thimerosal
PedvaxHIB (M) Free 08/99
HibTITER, single dose (WL)1 Free Never contained Thimerosal
Hib/Hepatitis B combination Comvax (M) Free Never contained Thimerosal
Influenza Fluzone (AP) 0.01% (12.5 µg/0.25 mL dose, 25 µg/0.5 mL dose)2
Fluzone (AP)3
(no thimerosal) Free 12/23/2004
Fluvirin (Chiron/Evans) 0.01% (25 µg/0.5 mL dose)
Fluvirin (Chiron/Evans)
(Preservative Free) Trace (<1ug Hg/0.5mL dose) 09/28/01
Influenza, live FluMist4 (MedImmune) Free Never contained Thimerosal

Manufacturer abbreviations:
GSK = GlaxoSmithKline; WL = Wyeth Lederle; AP = Aventis Pasteur; M = Merck.
** Thimerosal is approximately 50% mercury (Hg) by weight. A 0.01% solution (1 part per 10,000) of thimerosal contains 50 µg of Hg per 1 mL dose or 25 µg of Hg per 0.5 mL dose.
*** The term "trace" has been taken in this context to mean 1 microgram of mercury per dose or less.
1 HibTiITER was also manufactured in thimerosal-preservative containing multidose vials but these were no longer available after 2002.
2 Children 6 months old to less than 3 years of age receive a half-dose of vaccine, i.e., 0.25 mL; children 3 years of age and older receive 0.5 mL.
3 A trace thimerosal containing formulation of Fluzone was approved on 9/14/02 and has been replaced with the formulation without thimerosal.
4 FluMist is not indicated for children less than 5 years of age.


Source: http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vacsafe/concerns/thimerosal/faqs-thimerosal.htm


1. Why is thimerosal used as a preservative in some vaccines?

Thimerosal is used as a preservative in some multi-dose vials of vaccines to prevent contamination. Preservatives are not required for vaccines in single-dose vials. As a preservative, thimerosal is added at the end of the production process to the bulk or final container to prevent contamination after multi-dose vials are opened. Until 1999, vaccines given to infants to protect them against diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib), and Hepatitis B contained thimerosal as a preservative. Today, with the exception of some flu vaccines, none of the vaccines used in the U.S. to protect preschool aged children against 12 infectious diseases contain thimerosal as a preservative. Thimerosal still may be used in the early stages of manufacturing of certain vaccines, but is removed through a purification process, with only trace, or insignificant, amounts remaining.

2. If thimerosal was used in vaccines for many years, why did it become a concern?

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Modernization Act of 1997 called for the FDA to review and assess the risk of all mercury containing food and drugs. As part of this effort, the FDA conducted a review of mercury content in vaccines.

3. What recommendations did the Federal government make in 1999 with respect to thimerosal in vaccines?

A review conducted by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) concluded that the use of thimerosal as a preservative in vaccines might result in the intake of mercury during the first 6 months of life that exceeds the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), but not the FDA, the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR), or the World Health Organization (WHO) guidelines for methylmercury intake (Ball et al., 2001). Thimerosal contains ethylmercury. Methylmercury is a related compound and has been more thoroughly researched than ethylmercury. Thus, federal safety standards are based on information we have about methylmercury.

FDA’s review found no evidence of harm caused by doses of thimerosal in vaccines, except for minor local reactions (Ball et al., 2001). Nevertheless, in July 1999 the Public Health Service agencies (PHS), the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), and vaccine manufacturers agreed that thimerosal levels in vaccines should be reduced or eliminated as a precautionary measure, and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) committed to expediting the review of new vaccines that do not contain thimerosal.

4. What progress has been made since July 1999 in removing thimerosal from vaccines routinely recommended for infants?

Substantial progress has been made in the effort to reduce thimerosal exposure from vaccines. Today, with the exception of some flu vaccines, none of the vaccines used in the U.S. to protect preschool aged children against 12 infectious diseases contain thimerosal as a preservative. The vaccines with trace amount of thimerosal licensed to date contain less than 0.5 micrograms of mercury per dose, that is, a given dose of vaccine contains less than 1 part per million.

Events that contributed to accomplishing this goal include the licensure of a thimerosal free Hepatitis B Vaccine (Recombinant) manufactured by Merck and Company in August 1999. FDA licensed another hepatitis B vaccine with only trace amounts of thimerosal, manufactured by GlaxoSmithKline in March 2000. A supplement for a new formulation of Aventis Pasteur's DTaP Vaccine with only a trace amount of thimerosal was approved in March 2001. Additionally, Wyeth-Lederle Vaccines and Pediatrics now only markets a single-dose, thimerosal-free formulation of its Haemophilus b (Hib) Conjugate Vaccine in the U.S. Thus, two hepatitis B vaccines are thimerosal free, four Hib vaccines are thimerosal free, and two DTaP vaccines are thimerosal free.

Prior to the recent initiative to reduce or eliminate thimerosal from childhood vaccines, the maximum cumulative exposure to mercury via routine childhood vaccinations during the first six months of life was 187.5 micrograms. With the newly formulated vaccines, the maximum cumulative exposure during the first six months of life will now be less than three micrograms of mercury; this represents a greater than 98 percent reduction in the amount of mercury a child would receive from vaccines in the first six months of life. [Influenza (flu) vaccine is not given until six months or older.]

5. I’ve heard that children may be getting toxic levels of mercury from vaccines. Is that true?

No. There is no evidence of harm caused by the minute doses of thimerosal in vaccines, except for minor effects like swelling and redness at the injection site due to sensitivity to thimerosal.

Most importantly, since 1999, newly formulated thimerosal preservative-free vaccines have been licensed. With the newly formulated vaccines, the maximum cumulative exposure during the first six months of life will now be less than three micrograms of mercury. No children are receiving toxic levels of mercury from vaccines.

6. What research is being conducted by the Federal Government regarding the safety of vaccines containing thimerosal?

There is no evidence to suggest that thimerosal in vaccines causes any health problems in children and adults beyond local hypersensitivity reactions (like redness and swelling at the injection site). However, efforts to remove thimerosal from the U.S. vaccine supply have been accompanied by research investigations to better assess the potential health effects of exposure to thimerosal containing vaccines:

* The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) at the National Institutes of Health (NIH) funds thimerosal research that focuses on better understanding of what happens to thimerosal once it is introduced into the body and how this compares to current knowledge of methyl mercury pathways.
 A recent study sponsored by the NIAID and conducted at the University of Rochester assessed mercury levels in 40 infants who received vaccines containing thimerosal and 21 infants who received thimerosal-free vaccines. The scientists measured the level of mercury in the infants’ blood, urine and stool up to 28 days after vaccination. They found that 1) infants who were given vaccines with thimerosal had levels of mercury well below the safe level of 29 nmol/L (this level is set ten times lower than the level at which mercury begins to cause neurological problems) and 2) the body seems to be able to get rid of thimerosal (ethyl mercury) via the gastrointestinal tract (stools) much quicker than it gets rid of methyl mercury. For more information about the different types of mercury go to

 http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vacsafe/concerns/thimerosal/ faqs-mercury.htm
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NIAID and the National Institutes of Environmental Health Sciences (NIEHS) are also funding studies comparing the pharmacokinetics and tissue distribution of thimerosal, ethyl mercury, and methyl mercury in non-human primates. Pharmacokinetics is the study of how an agent is absorbed, distributed, metabolized (broken down), and excreted. For more information go to http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/thimerosal.htm

* The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has been actively addressing the issue of thimerosal as a preservative in vaccines. For information on FDA activities related to thimerosal and vaccines go to http://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/thimerosal.htm

* See also CDC studies on the safety of thimerosal-containing vaccines.

* The CDC’s Center for Environmental Health and the National Center for Health Statistics are doing a study looking at all mercury exposures and working with the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES). NHANES 4 will collect samples of blood, hair and urine from all women of reproductive age and children under 5 in order to assess mercury levels in the body from all sources of mercury a person can be exposed to in the environment. Findings of a study conducted using NHANES 3 data to check blood and hair mercury levels suggest that the mercury levels in young children and in women of childbearing age are generally below the level considered hazardous (MMWR;50, 140-143).

7. Does thimerosal cause autism?

There is no conclusive evidence that any vaccine or vaccine additive increases the risk of developing autism or any other behavior disorder. Rather, evidence is accumulating of lack of any harm resulting from exposure to vaccine containing-thimerosal as a preservative. In a 2004 report, the Institute of Medicine (IOM) concluded that there is no association between autism and vaccines that contain thimerosal as a preservative. Nonetheless, given the level of concern among parents and others regarding vaccines and autism, the CDC is committed to investigating this issue to the fullest extent possible, using the best scientific methods available.

For more information on autism and vaccines go to

www.cdc.gov/nip/vacsafe/concerns/autism/default.htm

8. What about a 2003 study that claimed to find a relationship between thimerosal in vaccines and autism, speech disorders, and heart disease?

In 2003, Geier and Geier reported conducting two analyses to test whether thimerosal in vaccines is associated with autism, speech disorders, and heart disease. The researchers inadequately described the methods they used, making it impossible to determine exactly what was done and how the results should be interpreted. In the first analysis, the researchers reviewed Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) reports involving autism, speech disorders, and heart disease. They state that they compared VAERS reports involving thimerosal-containing DTP and DTaP vaccines with those involving thimerosal-free DTaP vaccines. There are a number of weaknesses in this analysis, including an apparent misunderstanding among the authors regarding VAERS reporting requirements. VAERS is a passive surveillance system for reporting possible vaccine adverse events that depends on health care providers, patients, and/or others to file reports. Health effects reported to VAERS as following vaccination may be true adverse events, coincidental occurrences, or mistakes in filing. Because of this, VAERS has certain weaknesses that limit the system, including incomplete reporting, lack of verification of diagnoses, and lack of data on those who were vaccinated and did not report problems. VAERS data are useful for “hypothesis generation” (raising questions), but should not be used for research aimed at determining whether vaccines cause certain health problems as done by Geier and Geier. Moreover, children who could have received thimerosal-free DTaP vaccine were less likely to have autism or speech disorders diagnosed because they were younger than the children in the thimerosal-containing vaccines group. In the heart disease evaluation, the authors examined reports coded as “heart arrest,” these cases in VAERS are completely different from the coronary heart disease cases in the studies that the authors cite to support a possible association between mercury and heart disease. It is also unclear how the researchers calculated levels of mercury exposure, because their calculations are inconsistent with the known levels of mercury that were in thimerosal-containing DTP or DTaP vaccines.

In the second analysis, the authors looked at the estimated amount of mercury exposure from vaccines over time and the number of children enrolled in U.S. special education programs for selected disabilities. The authors present figures with very high correlations, but from the limited description provided, it does not seem that the appropriate data were available to perform the analyses and derive the conclusions that the authors report. Although enrollment in special education of children with autism did increase during the 1990’s, it has not been determined whether this represents a real increase in the incidence of autism as opposed to increased awareness and acceptance of the diagnosis, better recognition, changing diagnostic criteria, or educational and service incentives to make the diagnosis.

The American Academy of Pediatrics has more information on this study at http://www.aap.org/profed/thimaut-may03.htm.

9. Great Britain experienced a rapid rise in autism among children born in the 1980's and early 1990's. Could this be due to thimerosal in vaccines?

It is unlikely that the rapid increase in autism cases in the UK was due to thimerosal. The only vaccine in the UK’s childhood immunization program that contains thimerosal is DTP. All other vaccines (OPV, BCG, MMR, Hib, menC) added to the program since the 1950's are and have always been thimerosal free. In addition, if thimerosal in vaccines were causing autism, we would expect to see a simultaneous increase in both thimerosal exposure and autism cases. However, from the 1950's on, there was no increase in the amount of thimerosal UK children were receiving from vaccines, yet there was a jump in autism cases in the 1980's.

A significant change in the UK’s program did occur in 1990 when they accelerated their immunization schedule so vaccines would be given earlier (changed from 3, 5, and 8 months to 2, 3 and 4 months). However, the rate of autism was rising long before this change occurred (see Fombonne, 2001).

10. I understand some people are sensitive to mercury and must avoid it. Do they have problems with thimerosal-containing vaccines?

Some individuals experience local skin reactions such as redness and swelling that may suggest a delayed-type of minor allergic reaction following injection with products containing thimerosal. Research suggests that most people who have a contact or skin allergy to thimerosal will not have the reaction when thimerosal is injected under the skin (Forstrom, 1980; Jacobs 1982). A prior history of a minor reaction to thimerosal in a vaccine is not considered a contraindication to further vaccination with thimerosal-containing vaccines. Severe anaphylactic (allergic) reaction to any vaccine is a contraindication to further vaccination with the vaccine.

11. Do measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccines contain thimerosal?

No, MMR vaccine does not and never did contain thimerosal. Varicella (chickenpox), inactivated polio (IPV), and pneumococcal conjugate vaccines have also never contained thimerosal.

12. Do all flu vaccines contain thimerosal?

No. Influenza vaccine is currently available both with thimerosal as a preservative and preservative-free. For the 2004-05 influenza season, it is likely that 6-8 million doses of inactivated influenza vaccine without thimerosal as a preservative will be available. This represents a substantial increase in the available amount of inactivated influenza vaccine without thimerosal as a preservative, compared with about 3.2 million doses that were available during the 2003-04 influenza season.

The removal of thimerosal as a preservative from influenza vaccine is a complicated process. The total amount of flu vaccine without thimerosal as a preservative will be increased as vaccine manufacturing capabilities are expanded. In the meantime, it is important to keep in mind that the benefits of influenza vaccination outweigh the theoretical risk, if any, for exposure to thimerosal. Each year, an average of about 36,000 people in the United States die from influenza, and 114,000 have to be admitted to the hospital as a result of influenza. People age 65 years and older, people of any age with chronic medical conditions, and very young children are more likely to get complications from influenza.

13. Why are chemicals and other substances added to vaccines?

Many foods and medicines, including vaccines, have chemicals added to them to prevent the growth of germs, reduce spoilage, and prevent it from losing its potency over time.

Some additives are used in the production of vaccines. Vaccines may include suspending fluid (e.g., sterile water, saline, or fluids containing protein); preservatives and stabilizers (e.g., albumin, phenols, and glycine); and adjuvants, or enhancers, that help the vaccine improve its immunogenicity (ability to protect against disease).

For more information on additives, go to:

http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vacsafe/concerns/gen/additives.htm


sapphire630 answered on 11/28/05:

They are finding many kids are autistic from these vaccinations. In many states they are not required by law but nobody will tell you that because they want everyone to have the vaccines. In my state everybody argues with me that kids have to be vaccinated before they start school. I have the forms proving they don't, but nobody believes me because nobody is being informed.

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Laura asked on 11/15/05 - Atheist at it again....

From news24.com. Atheist wants to get rid of God

15/11/2005 08:07 San Francisco - An atheist waging a legal battle to delete the words "under God" from a patriotic oath recited in United States public schools vowed on Monday to sue to have the phrase "In God We Trust" removed from US coins and bank notes.

Both US currency and the Pledge of Allegiance should be fully secular to reflect the US Constitution's division of church and state, and "to have all Americans treated equally by their government," Michael Newdow said.

Newdow told AFP he plans to file his new lawsuit electronically in federal court in Northern California by the end of the week.

"Can you imagine if, in some Catholic church, they passed the collection plate and the coins said there is no God?" Newdow asked.

Unconstitutional

"They wouldn't take that. I have a church, and I can't take currency for fundraising."

Newdow is a doctor, lawyer, and calls himself a "priest" in his own church that advocates atheism.

"We hold a definite view that being honest means you cannot reasonably conclude there is a God," Newdow said.

According to court documents, Newdow started the First Amendmist Church of True Science (Facts) in 1997.

Newdow's civil suit arguing it is unconstitutional to make school children to recite the words "under God" as part of the Pledge of Allegiance cleared a lower court hurdle this year and is working its way through the legal system.

The US Supreme Court nixed an effort by Newdow to keep religious references out of the January inauguration ceremony for US President George W Bush.

Newdow's legal campaign has drawn sharp criticism from Christian groups.

"We are a nation of religious refugees," Mathew Staver of the conservative Christian group Liberty Counsel said during the inauguration controversy.

"Prayer has been an essential part of America and her history. Our history is pervaded by religious expressions. We are a nation of religious refugees, and it is therefore commonplace to see and hear expressions of religion."

Seriously folks....If this athiest doesn't believe in God then why in the heck does he care what words are on money. They should mean nothing to him. It certainly is no reason not to be able to use money in his "church" for fundraising??? What does he pay his lawyer with??.. Seems he doesn't have a problem with the word "church or priest" (I thought atheism wasn't considered a "religion" to the atheist)which is traditionally used to term a religious facility and a person of faith as well as the body of believers called the church.. I think it's a crock of crap. These people just want their fifteen minutes of fame.

Does anyone agree with this guy?? WHY!!

sapphire630 answered on 11/22/05:

My solution to people having a problem with 'In God we trust' on their money is they can send me their money and it will not be their problem any more!

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Itsdb asked on 11/16/05 - No slippery slope?

Seems it was just a few days I expressed concern that gay marriage wasn't the end of the push for legalizing other alternatives in family/marital configurations...just a scare tactic I'm told. Check this out...

Bill softens bestiality statute
Massachusetts pols push measure lessening punishment for animal sex

Posted: November 16, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

"Four state legislators in Massachusetts have introduced a bill that would soften the crime of bestiality, a move pro-family activists say is a natural progression of the state's legalizing same-sex marriage.

Stated traditional-values organization Article 8: "State Sen. Cynthia Creem, Sen. Robert O'Leary, Rep. Michael Festa and Rep. David Linsky have some interesting things in common.

"They're all strongly endorsed by the state's three major powerful homosexual lobbying groups. … They're all Democrats. They're all vocal supporters of homosexual 'marriage' and whatever else the homosexual lobby bids them to do.

"And now all four have introduced Senate bill 938. Even the left-wing Weekly Dig can't believe that the Massachusetts Legislature is poised to go this far."

A story in Boston's Weekly Dig describes the legislation, entitled "An Act Relative to Archaic Crimes."

"The bill would strike down several sections of the current penal code criminalizing adultery, fornication and the advertisement of abortion," the reported stated. "It also repeals what appears to be a sodomy statute forbidding 'abominable and detestable crime against nature, either with mankind or with a beast.'

"Archaic, indeed."

While the bill would keep bestiality technically illegal, it gives the option of less severe penalties. Previously, those convicted of "a sexual act on an animal" could receive up to 20 years in prison.

Explains the local weekly: "The new measure would give activist judges the option of slapping perps with a mere two and a half years in plush local jails, or even letting zoophiliacs walk with a $5,000 fine."

The bill was taken up during a public hearing Nov. 1 in the Legislature's Joint Committee on the Judiciary. Reportedly, no one from the public testified against the measure."

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The Weekly Dig's take:

MAN ON DOG?
Lawmakers move to lower penalty for bestiality … seriously
PAUL MCMORROW

More than two and a half years ago, the nation laughed as pro-family crusader Rick Santorum predicted the consequences of legalized gay marriage: If man-on-man marriage was sanctified, man-on-child and man-on-dog unions might not be far behind.

Those who jeered Santorum were silenced last Tuesday. Man-on-dog isn’t legal just yet, but if the Massachusetts State Legislature has its way, it might be soon. On November 1, cheerleading for bestiality was just one of a string of stunning pieces of legislation that converged on the legislature’s judiciary committee in a bizarre, post-Halloween orgy. The imminent collapse of the state cannot be far behind.

Sponsored by Senators Cynthia Creem and Robert O’Leary, and Representatives Michael Festa and David Linsky, the bestiality measure was buried in a packaged assault on morality, disguised as “An Act Relative to Archaic Crimes.” The bill would strike down several sections of the current penal code criminalizing adultery, fornication and the advertisement of abortion. It also repeals what appears to be a sodomy statute forbidding “abominable and detestable crime against nature, either with mankind or with a beast.”

Archaic, indeed.

The new law would continue to forbid “a sexual act on an animal,” but reduce possible penalties for committing such a crime, making it decidedly less illegal. Whereas the old law punished doggie-diddling and the like with hard time (a maximum sentence of 20 years) in state prison, the new measure would give activist judges the option of slapping perps with a mere two and a half years in plush local jails, or even letting zoophiliacs walk with a $5,000 fine.

How badly has Massachusetts’ moral compass suffered since dudes started honeymooning with dudes? Not one legislator, nor a single member of the God-fearing public, appeared before the judiciary committee to denounce the proposed changes. But then again, who has time to worry about bestiality when teenagers are shoplifting and buying NyQuil?

Though presumably more than willing to lower penalties for crimes against nature, Rep. Linsky demanded the judiciary committee get tough on the real criminals—mall thieves. It turns out that if shopping bags are lined with duct tape, any merchandise inside can be snuck past security tag sensors undetected. One shoplifting ring, Linsky testified, had recently been busted in Natick with $47,000 in stolen goods. Linsky’s bill would criminalize the possession of duct-tape bags and other shoplifting tools in malls, punishing offenders with up to two years in the clink and a $1,000 fine.

Cold medicine, it appears, is also a greater threat to society than bestiality, as Falmouth Rep. Matthew Patrick denounced NyQuil and codeine, but remained silent about barnyard romance. Patrick’s bill would criminalize the sale of “cough syrup or a cold remedy containing alcohol or codeine … to any person under the age of 18.” Such medicine “wreaks a lot of havoc on young people,” Patrick argued.

And the shoplifting and NyQuil bills were two of the tamer legislative initiatives before the committee; the rest of the docket amounted to a clearinghouse of insanity.

Up for consideration was a measure, sponsored by Southie’s Jack Hart, to ban the advertisement of fireworks; a bill banning the sale of laser pointers to minors; a push to revamp the way the state punishes graveyard vandals; an examination of how to combat the epidemic of drunken riots; new punishments for drivers who steal gas; and—our personal favorite—a bid to make criminally liable anyone who knowingly allows their telephone to be used “repeatedly, for the sole purpose of harassing, annoying or molesting [another] person … or for the purpose of repeatedly using indecent or obscene language to that person or his family.”

Hopefully, with those problems solved, we’ll all be able to marry our dogs and live in peace."

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Well now, what do you say about that?

Steve

sapphire630 answered on 11/22/05:

I have been saying for years that before I die I will see our nation to the point of anything goes. Christians want to blame it on the gays but I hear more pedophile stuff messing the country up than the gays.

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Lazlow asked on 11/19/05 - Curious George hates democrats. Cleveland sucks

it's on america's tortured brow, that mickey mouse has grown up a cow...

Howdy! I hope you all don't mind but I'm currently using Answerway to talk to my mom. I don't mind if you all read it, but I know she'll browse the board and come across my post. Anyway, Liz! I can't reach you, tell your son Alfredo Despuichi to get off the phone and go cellular so I can phone home once awhile.
I just got home from Cleveland with Marie. It sucked. I had fun, but Cleveland just sucks. I hate that place. We went to the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame but Marie wouldn't stop complaining and bashing the place so I insisted (since we were there for 5 minutes) that we went back to the front desk and got a refund for our tickets, which were $20 bucks each. I got to see Alan Freeds ashes... weird, the guy actually donated his ashes to a museum. Anyway, Cleveland is a walking timebomb. The first thing I saw there was someone being attacked in their mini-van. Everyone's so weird and mean there. Those people are psychotic freaks, like these people on answerway, that buy guns at the Kwik-e-mart.

Call you soon, bye.

sapphire630 answered on 11/22/05:

You would fit right in in Pittsburgh
Our unoffical motto is Cleveland sucks and you can go to the Andy Warhol museum right across the bridge from downtown (for way less than 20.)
My advice find someone who enjoys doing things with you. What ya gonna do when she
complains and it is something you REALLY want to do or see???

Tell your mom I said hi!

P.S. William Shatner is trying to get his kidney stone from his operation so he can sell it on E-BAY. I think I'd rather see Alan Freeds ashes!

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Laura asked on 11/21/05 - Major life changes ahead for us..

After 27 years working for GM the plant here in OKC is closing down.

30,000 people across the nation will lose their jobs with GM by the end of 2007. My husbands plant will be one of the first to close in early 2006.. With so many people losing their jobs it is unlikely that we could go to another plant in another state.

This was very unexpected for this plant as they had recently done alot of upgrades in the plant and installed a state of the art paint shop investing alot of money into it. We are hoping that they will offer an early retirement plan. I would hate to see hubby work somewhere for so long and walk away with nothing. But we are just a few of many who will be in the same boat..

Oh the things life throws at you.. For those who have been there and done that..You are still here..Life did not end..Ewww I'll have to get a job :-O I have no real skills because i've always been a stay at home mom/wife. I can type well, and I like to help people so maybe i'm not too old to get my feet wet in the job world.. Please keep all of these people who are going to lose their jobs in your thoughts. It won't be easy for alot of them. Thanks. Laura

sapphire630 answered on 11/22/05:

An article in the newspaper said that back when they switched to automated stuff the union made them keep the people that the machinery replaced. MAny of them go to work and get payed for doing nothing. If they were allowed to let these people go with some kind of settlement or retirement plan way back when they probably wouldn't be in the mess they are in now.

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arcura asked on 11/22/05 - Corruption in government. Does this mean that all are corrupt?

Abramoff Partner Pleads Guilty
Scanlon Admits He Conspired to Bribe Lawmaker
By James V. Grimaldi and Susan Schmidt
Washington Post Staff Writers
Tuesday, November 22, 2005; A01
A onetime congressional staffer who became a top partner to lobbyist Jack Abramoff pleaded guilty yesterday to conspiring to bribe a congressman and other public officials and agreed to pay back more than $19 million he fraudulently charged Indian tribal clients.
The plea agreement between prosecutors and Michael Scanlon, a former press secretary to then-House Majority Whip Tom DeLay (R-Tex.), provided fresh detail about the alleged bribes. The document also indicated the nature of testimony Scanlon is prepared to offer against a congressman it calls "Representative #1" -- who has been identified by attorneys in the case as Rep. Robert W. Ney (R-Ohio).
Scanlon, a 35-year-old former public relations executive, faces a maximum five years in prison and a $250,000 fine, but the penalty could be reduced depending on the level of his cooperation with prosecutors. His help is expected to be crucial to the Justice Department's wide-ranging Abramoff investigation, which began early last year after the revelation that Scanlon and the lobbyist took in tens of millions of dollars from Indian tribes unaware of their secret partnership to jack up fees and split profits.
Investigators are looking at half a dozen members of Congress, current and former senior Hill aides, a former deputy secretary of the interior, and Abramoff's former lobbying colleagues, according to sources familiar with the probe who spoke on the condition of anonymity. Because of his central role in much of Abramoff's business, Scanlon could be a key witness in any trials that arise from the case.
Scanlon had been in discussions with prosecutors for six months before Friday's announcement that he was being charged with one count of conspiracy as part of a plea agreement. He entered his guilty plea before U.S. District Judge Ellen Segal Huvelle yesterday and agreed to pay restitution of $19.7 million, Scanlon's share of fees from four tribes named in the charging documents.
He admitted that he or Abramoff offered bribes on behalf of clients over a period of four years, and at one point during the proceedings he corrected court filings that mistakenly noted that the illegal acts began in 2001. "My client informs me that some of the overt acts are actually in 2000," said Scanlon attorney Stephen L. Braga.
Ney spokesman Brian Walsh said the congressman was defrauded by Scanlon and Abramoff and his official actions had nothing to do with improper influence. "Any allegation that Representative Ney did anything illegal or improper is false. This plea agreement mentions a number of unsubstantiated allegations, but in fact, many of the things suggested to have occurred did not actually take place," Walsh said.
The plea agreement lists gifts Ney was offered or received, including a golf trip to Scotland in 2002, $4,000 to his campaign committee, $10,000 to the National Republican Campaign Committee made with credit to Ney, regular meals and drinks at Abramoff's Signatures restaurant, sports tickets, and frequent golf and related expenses at courses in the Washington area.
The document states that the gifts were "in exchange for a series of official acts." These included providing legislation, agreeing to put statements into the Congressional Record, contacting federal officials to influence decisions, meeting with Abramoff's clients and endorsing a wireless telecommunications company that wanted to install antennas in House office buildings.
According to the plea agreement, Ney made the Congressional Record statements in support of Abramoff's efforts to buy a fleet of Florida casino ships "calculated to pressure the then-owner to sell on terms favorable to Lobbyist A [Abramoff] and his partners."
The filing also refers to a trip that Ney was offered to attend the Super Bowl in Tampa in 2001 that sources have told The Washington Post the Ohio congressman backed out of at the last minute. That trip was paid for by SunCruz Casinos Inc., which Abramoff acquired in 2001. Abramoff is facing fraud charges in Florida in connection with the acquisition of that company.
Ney also provided help to two Texas tribal clients of Abramoff that wanted permission to open casinos, the plea agreement said. In one case in December 2002, Ney sought help from another unidentified House member for one of the tribes, the prosecutors said. Ney also met with a member of a California tribe doing business with Abramoff and agreed to help pass tax legislation affecting the tribe, the documents said.
Another all-expenses-paid trip mentioned in the documents was a 2000 visit to the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, an Abramoff client. A source with knowledge of the trip said that senior members of Ney's and DeLay's staff went along.
At yesterday's hearing, Scanlon folded his hands and answered the judge respectfully and even, at times, enthusiastically. Asked if he was satisfied with his attorneys, he said, "I am indeed!" He also appeared relaxed afterward, joking with Mary Butler, the top prosecutor on the case, that she was letting him leave the courtroom first to "face the gauntlet" of reporters outside.
Scanlon was released after promising to post a $5 million unsecured bond -- essentially a personal guarantee. Scanlon, who purchased a home in St. Bart's with lobbying proceeds, gave his passport to his attorney Plato Cacheris under an agreement with prosecutors. He agreed not to leave the country without giving authorities two weeks' notice.
Standing in the rain next to his attorneys, Braga and Cacheris, Scanlon declined to comment. Cacheris said, "He's obviously regretful for the circumstances that brought him here." At the end of the briefing, Scanlon, who remembers many of the reporters from days handling press for DeLay, said: "Thanks, guys. I'll be in touch."

sapphire630 answered on 11/22/05:

You can find one good apple in a barrel of rotten ones, but who wants to dig through all the rotten crapola to find one!?

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Erewhon asked on 11/22/05 - Autobiography going online

Commencing next Tuesday,my autobiography will be serialised weekly at:


A Shout From the Attic

sapphire630 answered on 11/22/05:

The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable....

sounds JUST like my life !

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excon asked on 11/08/05 - Christian Values


Hello Christians:

Gade, one of the loudest Christians on this board, doesn’t know what torture is. I believe he’s a medical doctor, for crying out loud, and HE doesn’t know what torture is????

As a person who holds family values in high esteem, he doesn’t quite know how to treat his fellow captives. He doesn’t know if pulling out fingernails is ok or not. How could a person, who knows that two men shouldn’t sleep together, not know that two men shouldn’t be pulling fingernails out?

This is a guy who quotes scriptures all the time, here. So, is he right? Is it Christian to torture your enemy? Is he really as dumb as he claims, or does he claim stupidity so he can torture and then pretend he’s a great Christian?

excon

sapphire630 answered on 11/08/05:

Torture is when I smack people over the head with my cast iron skillet to knock sense into them (ask my old boyfriend from 8 years ago)...Yep this Polish gal hasn't suceeded in knocking sense into anybody yet....but my lobotamy kit works wonders!!!!

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Erewhon asked on 11/08/05 - Can Bush supersede established civilian and military judicial systems and get away with it?

Military tribunals to get a test in Supreme Court
The justices opt to take case of a Guantánamo detainee.

By Warren Richey
Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

WASHINGTON – A year and a half ago, the US Supreme Court delivered a blunt message to the White House: War is not a blank check entitling the president to violate the constitutional liberties of American citizens.


The decision resulted in the release of Yasser Hamdi, a dual US and Saudi citizen, who had been held indefinitely in a military prison without charge or access to a lawyer.

On Monday (7 November 2005), the nation's (USA) highest court set the stage for the next major constitutional showdown over President Bush's ongoing war on terror.

The issue is whether the president has the authority to put Al Qaeda suspects on trial before military commissions at the US naval base at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba.

In agreeing to take up the appeal of Salim Ahmed Hamdan, the high court will examine government efforts to empanel a military-run war-crimes tribunal to weigh charges against Mr. Hamdan and three other terror suspects.

Such tribunals mark the first time in a half-century that the US government is relying on ad hoc military commissions to mete out justice rather than civil federal courts or the military justice system.

Lawyers and constitutional scholars who had urged the high court to take up the matter, praised the justices for their decision to tackle the Hamdan case.

"There are people who have been kept in Guantánamo so long that the situation just cries out for review,"
says Stephen Saltzburg, a law professor at George Washington University and general counsel for the National Institute of Military Justice.

"The world wants to know whether our judiciary thinks these things matter, and taking this case says it matters."

David Remes, a Washington, D.C., lawyer who filed a friend-of-the-court brief, says the case is important because it could set the stage for similar abuses against American soldiers taken captive overseas.

"This case is huge because one issue presented is whether the president can simply decide on his own initiative to suspend the Geneva Conventions as to a particular individual or group," Mr. Remes says.

Some 500 law professors urged the Supreme Court to take the Hamdan case.

"The central hope I have for this case in terms of separation of powers is that the Supreme Court will restore the constitutional directive that no one branch of government has the power to accuse, appoint the prosecutor, designate the judges, and render judgment," says Yale Law School Prof. Judith Resnik, who helped organize the letter campaign.

Hamdan, a Yemeni citizen, served as Osama bin Laden's driver in Afghanistan and is charged with being a member of Al Qaeda. He is one of nearly 500 detainees being held at the US terrorism prison camp at Guantánamo Bay.

Hamdan's trial was set to begin last fall. But a federal judge ruled in November that Hamdan could not be tried before a military commission without violating the 1949 Geneva Conventions.

In July, a three-judge federal appeals court panel reversed the federal judge. The panel, including now Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts (who has recused himself), ruled that the president has the authority to order such commissions regardless of any conflicting provisions of the Geneva Conventions.

Lawyers for Hamdan asked the Supreme Court to reverse that ruling and examine the constitutionality of the use of military commissions.

By agreeing to take up the case, the high court action is likely to further delay the military commission process.

The Supreme Court has been willing to play a strong role in monitoring the government's war on terror, ruling in one major case that the government could not indefinitely detain a US citizen, and ruling in a second major case that federal court jurisdiction extends to detainees being held at the US base in Cuba.

At the same time, a majority of justices left the president significant leeway to confront perceived threats to the nation's security.

The Hamdan case raises fundamental issues, including the scope of the president's power to detain and place on trial any foreign national deemed to be an enemy combatant.

In urging the high court to take up the Hamdan case immediately, Hamdan's lawyer, Neal Katyal, drew upon a lesson from American history.

He compared the Hamdan dispute to landmark Supreme Court case upholding the supremacy of civilian courts over an effort by President Abraham Lincoln to rely on military tribunals to quickly and efficiently prosecute suspected supporters of the Confederacy.

"At issue is whether the president can supersede established civilian and military judicial systems," Mr. Katyal says in his brief. "No graver question was ever considered by this court, nor one which more nearly concerns the rights of the whole people," he writes, quoting Ex Parte Milligan, an 1866 Supreme Court decision.

Lawyers for the government said that the high court should put off examining Hamdan's case until after his trial.

Katyal countered that the stakes for the nation are too high for any delay.

"The court of appeals created a legal black hole where no law applies," he says. "In this setting, individuals will not merely be detained, but tried and sentenced to life imprisonment and even death."

sapphire630 answered on 11/08/05:

I have said since they started all this don't torture terrorist stuff. Let the people that know how to do it better be the ones to go in and reason with them. THEN let THEM decide how they want to deal with them.

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HANK1 asked on 11/06/05 - JUST WONDERING ...



Cognitive therapists ask people to examine their perceptions of the world and the evidence for their beliefs. A depressed person observing a bed of roses might see only the litter and none of the beauty ... and might conclude that the whole world is ugly and always will be.

Tell me what you see when you view a bed of roses!

HANK

sapphire630 answered on 11/07/05:

I see the morning dew and the thorns...Please interpupt and let me know!
Thanks

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Choux asked on 11/03/05 - Christian Virtues

What Christian virtues did you find yourself living for yourself and demonstrating to the people of world today??

Sometimes there is too much of a focus on "sin" and negativity. What about good?

sapphire630 answered on 11/04/05:

too busy back biting about who sins more,
which reminds me I am seriously thinking of my next post!

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revdauphinee asked on 11/02/05 - rating answers

whoever is rating answers to my postings ,thank you but I am quite capable of doing so myself !

sapphire630 answered on 11/02/05:

Often I read a reply and want to rate it *****'s & comment so bad...(not bad), but I 99% of the time wait until the one that posted it rates it because I know I never liked it much when others rated them before I got to read them.

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excon asked on 11/01/05 - Values and the Christian Right


Hello Christians:

Bush likes to talk about values. Let's see, didn't he say that he would fire anyone involved in leaking Valerie Plames name? I think he did. Well, now we know that Karl Rove was in it up to his ears. Let's see him uphold honesty as a virtue by firing Karl Rove.

I understand Rove has "value" to Bush, but I didn't think that's what you folks meant when you talk about values.

Honesty? Integrity? Truth? In this White House? Bwaaaha ha ha ha ha.

excon

sapphire630 answered on 11/02/05:

Old Val was a desk job weapons specialist. She was no real secret agent. It is simply a publicity stunt by her husband to get them fame along with the Vanity Fair photo lay out
they blew their own cover of their own illusion hoping to take down some Republican politicans along the way if possible.

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Erewhon asked on 11/01/05 - Bush Unveils Bird Flu Strategy ...

The Bush administration, battered by criticism over its hurricane response, its nominees to the SC, its Iraq Attack, and numerous other fudgements, is attempting to divert the nation's attention away from White House failures by getting the nation prepared for a pandemic of bird influenza.

A 'senior White House official' today revealed that Bush's personal favourite was the building of a ten foot high wall around the whole of the USA, because, the President is reported as having said,

"That will keep out the birds and the illegals."


Do you think ten feet is high enough, or should it be even higher?

sapphire630 answered on 11/02/05:

What I do not understand is how they are suppost to get the right immunization for something that hasn't mutated to its final form. How would they know they got the right strain or the right strength, or the exact mix?

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arcura asked on 11/01/05 - Bill O'Reilly's thinking on the ACLU is below......

Fox News
By Bill O’Reilly

The ACLU exposed: that is the subject of this evening's "Talking Points Memo".
Last night, we reported that the Supreme Court of Oregon had ruled 5 to 1 that live sex shows are permitted in that state under the freedom of expression banner. The ACLU and The Oregonian newspaper both filed briefs in favor of that ruling. But why would the ACLU do that? What's in it for them?
The Supreme Court has consistently ruled that states and local communities have the right to limit expression. This is the U.S. Supreme court, in a time, place, and manner, application of standards. That is, you can't have sex on your front lawn, even if it's a personal expression on private property. The Supreme Court realizes the Constitution requires boundaries for what Americans do. If you don't have boundaries, you have chaos. Thus, community standards and public safety trump personal expression.
But the ACLU doesn't believe that. The organization has moved so far left, that now anything goes.
• Item: The ACLU is defending the North American Man Boy Love Association, saying that although the organization champions the criminal rape of children, it has a right to do that under free expression.
• Item: The ACLU endorses virtual child pornography and has defended the right of people to obtain real child porn.
• Item: the ACLU opposed the Minutemen protests at the border, obviously, a legitimate form of expression.
So it seems the ACLU cherry picks its cases. The Minutemen certainly have a right to protest the porous border situation, but the ACLU opposes that expression. — Off the chart hypocritical.
So let's apply the no spin concept to this. The ACLU simply wants a different country, a nation where conduct it approves of, public sexual displays, child molestation literature is allowed. But the ACLU wants to inhibit conduct it disagrees with, like protesting the border and celebrating the birth of Jesus. That's what's going on.
Now my next comments are directed at our liberal viewers. How can you support a group as nakedly, pardon the pun, radical as the ACLU? This isn't about freedom. This is about imposing a radical secular progressive agenda on a country that has traditionally voted on public policy issues. If the live sex act initiative was put on the Oregon ballot, it'd be voted down big. Remember, Oregonians voted against gay marriage.
So once again, the ACLU is using an activist court to undermine what the folks want. This isn't democracy. This is judicial fascism.
It's also a joke. The founding fathers didn't write the First Amendment with live sex shows in mind, OK? Everybody understand that? You can easily pervert the Constitution by saying every kind of expression is protected, but again, that would lead to chaos and conflict.
"Talking Points" believes the 400,000 members of the ACLU should wake up and smell the totalitarianism. This organization is bent on undermining freedom, not fighting for it. And everybody should understand that.
And that's "The Memo."

sapphire630 answered on 11/02/05:

check this site for more on the ACLU
http://www.aclj.org

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Choux asked on 11/01/05 - Newest Kind of Marital Infidelity


The Newest Kind of Marital Infidelity

"Hold the sex! With emotional infidelity, all it takes to cheat is a close friendship. If you're married and you share secrets with a close friend of the opposite sex or go out for drinks after work, you are guilty of emotional infidelity. That's the controversial verdict from M. Gary Neuman, a Miami Beach, Fla., therapist and author of the new book, "Emotional Infidelity: How to Affair-Proof Your Marriage and 10 Other Secrets to a Great Relationship."

His words are blunt: You can't have an intimate relationship at work and still have a great relationship at home. Even if there is no sex, he claims that any sort of male-female friendship outside of marriage is adultery. Period. Those are frightening words. With the long and intense work hours so many regularly endure, close friendships at work with people of both genders are typically the norm. Neuman's advice is simple and direct: Back off. He told The Baltimore Sun, "My message is that if you want to infuse passion and have a buddy for the rest of your life, you have to keep that emotional content in your marriage. Otherwise, it's not going to happen."

His views may be extreme, but even his critics--and there are many--acknowledge that his central premise that friendships between members of the opposite sex can harm marriages is probably valid. Author and infidelity researcher Shirley Glass, told the Sun that office friendships are a big concern. "Many love affairs begin just that way."


What do you think of Neuman's assessment of different sex friendships?

sapphire630 answered on 11/02/05:

Then there is the twisted morality that is getting popular. Straights say they are not bi-sexual. They are simply experimenting with the same sex to see what it is like, but they are 100% straight.

Go figure!

The reason they can't have the male-female relationship and a healthy marriage is males can't comprehend it and refuse to believe it. They think if you talk to him you have to be doing something with them.
Yeesh, I don't have a boyfriend and I STILL won't do anything with anybody! Forget it! I prefer chasing my goals in life AND it ain't any relationship....no way, shape or form.

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hOPE12 asked on 11/02/05 - Help please!

Hello Everyone,
Please if there is anyone who knows the law, what are my rights.

We pay $950.00 Rent and because of the huricane Wilma we has significant roof damage and now last night it rained and water came into the third floor hallway. The carpet is wet. Now our landlord wants his rent and our building has not been inspected for safety. Many of the buildings in the area have been condemed and rated unsafe and tenate have a few hours to move. We as renters do not feel comfortable paying our rent if we are going to be asked to leave due to danger and unsafe building. What can my family and others renters due legally to protect ourselves?

I know this is not spiritual or religious matter but it is important and I really would appreciate anyone who can help us know what to do.

Thanks ahead of time,
Hope12

sapphire630 answered on 11/02/05:

The law is you put the rent in an escrow account UNTIL the work is done AND it is inspected. If he takes you to court or tries to evict you you have the proof that you do have the money to pay him when the work is done. IF it does not get done you can take the rent and move.

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Choux asked on 10/31/05 - Slavery in Qatar

From Wired on line Magazine

Robot camel jockeys. "

That's about half of what you need to know. Robots, designed in Switzerland, riding camels in the Arabian desert. Camel jockey robots, about 2 feet high, with a right hand to bear the whip and a left hand to pull the reins. Thirty-five pounds of aluminum and plastic, a 400-MHz processor running Linux and communicating at 2.4 GHz; GPS-enabled, heart rate-monitoring (the camel's heart, that is) robots. Mounted on tall, gangly blond animals, bouncing along in the sandy wastelands outside Doha, Qatar, in the 112-degree heat, with dozens of follow-cars behind them. I have seen them with my own eyes. And the other half of the story: Every robot camel jockey bopping along on its improbable mount means ****one Sudanese boy freed from slavery and sent home****.


Are you in favor of Islamic slavery??

sapphire630 answered on 10/31/05:

I dunno any more; ALL MY slaves have abandoned ship...yep jist up 'n deserted me!

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revdauphinee asked on 10/31/05 - on the lighter side

A Birthday Wish

Little Sonia was shouting her prayers. "Please God send me a new doll for my birthday."

Her mother, overhearing this, said, "Don't shout dear, God isn't deaf."

"No, but Grandad is, and he's in the next room," Sonia replied.

sapphire630 answered on 10/31/05:

Maybe granddad should *pray* for a hearing aid.

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Choux asked on 10/31/05 - Racism?

LONDON (AFP) - Eighty-six percent of people in Britain aged 18 to 30 think the French deserve "a popular negative stereotype," suggests an opinion poll conducted for an Anglo-French art show in London.


That compares to 27 percent of like-aged people in France who felt the British held a negative stereotype of their nation, according to the survey.

The informal poll of 500 people in London, and as many in Paris, was commissioned by the organisers of an Entente Cordiale art show that opened in west London over the weekend. No margin of error was disclosed.

"British people should face up to the fact that they have an enormous problem when it comes to the French," said exhibition organiser Richard Kaye, a Brition resident in France.

"The British will make jokes about the French which would, if made to the detriment of other national or ethnic groups, be considered extremely racist and dangerous."

Is is OK for some British to make racist jokes about the French??

sapphire630 answered on 10/31/05:

I heard someone say we are getting too Politically Correct that we are all getting too uptight about offending others. If we could all learn to laugh and appreciate our differences we would get along better than all the uptight PC crapola.

I have 3 black jokes, when I tell them to 'Afro-Americans' they laugh their heads off and say "you alright girl" and I never have any problem with them!

1. Ho'de do'
2. Not'cho cheese
and
3. the black box

May my buddy Ike rest in peace, he was one of the sweetest old black guys that brightened everybody's day when they would see him walk down the street. I miss the laugh's and smiles he put on our faces.

The Brits as well as everybody needs to learn to accept people as unique individuals.

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revdauphinee asked on 10/31/05 - from the tellegraph newspaper

The Prince of Wales will try to persuade George W Bush and Americans of the merits of Islam this week because he thinks the United States has been too intolerant of the religion since September 11.

The Prince, who leaves on Tuesday for an eight-day tour of the US, has voiced private concerns over America's "confrontational" approach to Muslim countries and its failure to appreciate Islam's strengths.

Prince Charles has done more than any other member of the Royal Family in history to understand Islam. He said in 1994 that when he became Supreme Governor of the Church of England, he would rather be "defender of faiths" than "defender of the faith".
Prince Charles, who is about to embark on his first official foreign tour since his marriage to the Duchess of Cornwall, wants Americans - including Mr Bush - to share his fondness for Islam. He has agreed to attend a seminar on religions at Georgetown University, Washington, on Thursday: the only event where he will not be accompanied by the Duchess.


(Id attend also if I were him and it were my one chance to get away from her)

sapphire630 answered on 10/31/05:

Islam, Camilla he can have his lovely little world.
Let us all now concentrate on loving the Iranian guy that wants to wipe Israel off the map.

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revdauphinee asked on 10/31/05 - Theology Pair Flips Bible Upside-Down on Sexuality


'We must reject at the outset any notion of the supreme authority of scripture'
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47123

If a pair of visiting scholars, speaking this week at Florida Southern College's annual Bible Symposium, are correct, practically everything most people believe the Scriptures teach about sex is wrong.

The topic of this year's symposium, the Lakeland Ledger reported, was "Sex, Love and Marriage in Scripture and Tradition." Two of the presentations, however, were less than traditional, and many would say, unscriptural.

James L. Crenshaw, professor of Old Testament at Duke Divinity School, questioned Scripture's authority to govern matters of sexuality – the Old Testament text, he argued, was written over 12 centuries under a variety of shifting circumstances. It is the reader, he argued, that determines the text's meaning.

"We possess no statement describing a normative practice" of sex and marriage, he told the attendees.

Crenshaw cited divorce, easily obtained in early Hebrew society but discouraged in later prophetic and rabbinic writings, to illustrate what he described as the Bible's shifting standards. Likewise, in the Song of Songs, "the lovers defy convention in the way lovers have always done."

Given the lack of a cohesive approach to sexuality in the Bible, Crenshaw argued "those who practice alternative sexual lifestyles" should not be condemned.

While agreeing that homosexuality is forbidden in passages of Leviticus, Crenshaw said those prohibitions should not be taken as the final word.

"We must reject at the outset any notion of the supreme authority of scripture. ... Even those who take most literal interpretation of biblical texts, who claim to believe everything literally, nevertheless sit in judgment on their meaning at every juncture because readers determine meaning," he said. "Is God more interested in our sex lives than in our integrity, our good deeds and our chaste thoughts?"

Crenshaw's Duke Divinity School is associated with the United Methodist Church, which permits gays to be members of its congregations but prohibits them from being ministers.

The second speaker, L. William Countryman, professor of biblical studies at The Church Divinity School of the Pacific, is an ordained priest in the Episcopal Church and has been outspoken in debates over homosexuality in the clergy of that denomination. For Countryman, it is the gospel, – "the good news that God made us all alike and loves us all equally" – that has primacy. He has chastised those Anglicans opposed to the consecration of openly homosexual Gene Robinson as bishop of New Hampshire, for "their arrogance in commandeering Scripture as their peculiar property."

At the Lakeland symposium, Countryman offered his own "peculiar" take on the well-known passage on homosexuality found in the first chapter of Romans.

The apostle Paul wrote: "Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator – who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion."

"The language is harsh," Countryman conceded, "but Paul doesn't say explicitly that it is sinful. ... All we can say is that the case isn't very strong. For myself, I'm frankly unconvinced," he concluded. "Most important of all, the gospel doesn't enter into it."

Passages like this, Countryman said, have to be interpreted as part of Paul's entire message in Romans – that Jews and gentiles should not feel superior toward each other.

"We still hear Paul as agreeing with our own prejudices, whether for homosexuals or Jews. Never underestimate the ability of human beings to get things wrong," he concluded.

sapphire630 answered on 10/31/05:

I'd rather have the arcaic Bible way than the way it is nowadays with all the slut and sleeze. Duquense University (a Catholic college near me)is having a big debate on going 'gay-friendly' equal rights to partners, etc...

On the supposedly straight side of things

More and more people that call themselves straight and get offended if you call them bi are turning to same sex relationships 'just to experiment' or see what it is like; but insist they are 100%straight. I guess that is suppost to mean there are still morals left in the world.


Guys will walk up to you and ask if you want....(whatever) but they certainly don't ask if you want to go out and get to know them...

I always tell them they can get whatever a dime a dozen down the street (any direction); leave me alone!


excuse me while I go hibernate
another 7 months!


Sapph

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paraclete asked on 10/30/05 - Do you share Prince Charles' concerns?

Prince Charles: Climate change is 'terrifying'

Monday, October 31, 2005 Posted: 0314 GMT (1114 HKT)


Prince Charles: "I find myself born into this particular position. I am determined to make the most of it."

LONDON, England (AP) -- Prince Charles says he believes the pace of climate change is terrifying and people are becoming too dependent on technology.

In a rare TV interview ahead of his official tour of the United States next week, Charles expressed concern that economic progress is "upsetting the whole balance of nature."

"You know, if you look at the latest figures on climate change and global warming ... they're terrifying, terrifying," Charles told CBS's ඄ Minutes" in the interview aired Sunday.

The prince is a keen environmentalist, but his office declined to say whether Charles will raise the issue of climate change when he dines with President Bush at the White House this week. Clarence House, the prince's office, said it would not be appropriate to comment on a private dinner.

In the past, Bush has questioned the existence of global warming. The United States has refused to sign the Kyoto Protocol designed to limit greenhouse gas emissions, saying it would harm the economy.

Charles, who will be visiting with his wife, Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, also said he was worried about the importance of technology in modern life.

"If you make everything over efficient, you suck out, it seems to me, every last drop of what, up to now, has been known as culture," Charles said in the interview, which was recorded last month in Poundbury, England.

"We are not the technology. It should be our ... slave, the technology. But it's rapidly becoming our master in many areas, I think," he said.

Charles will travel to the United States on Tuesday for his first official tour of the country since 1994, although he has made a number of private visits since then.

He last visited the United States on June 11, 2004, for the funeral of former President Ronald Reagan.

During the tour, Charles and Camilla will inaugurate a new memorial garden in New York for the British victims of the September 11, 2001, attacks on the World Trade Center.

They will also travel to Washington for their lunch and dinner with President Bush and Mrs. Bush. During the final leg of the tour, Charles and Camilla will meet homeless people in San Francisco.

In previously released excerpts of the CBS interview, Charles said he was concerned about being seen as irrelevant.

"The most important thing is to be relevant ... It isn't easy, as you can imagine ... because if you say anything, people will say, 'It's all right for you to say that.' It's very easy to just dismiss anything I say. ... It's difficult," the heir to the British throne said.

Charles says his duty is "worrying about this country and its inhabitants."

He adds: "I find myself born into this particular position. I am determined to make the most of it."

Charles has won respect for the time he devotes to The Prince's Trust, which has helped more than 35,000 disadvantaged young people start their own businesses and provided job training to thousands more each year.

He hopes efforts like these are valued, telling interviewer Steve Kroft lightheartedly: "I only hope that when I'm dead and gone, they might appreciate it a little bit more."

Copyright 2005 The Associated Press.


I was only remarking recently that we have become so dependent on the easy life we could not survive if someone turned the power off. do you feel the same way?

sapphire630 answered on 10/31/05:

Like I keep trying to tell ya In 30 years you will be crying about the coming ICE AGE. Weather changes every so many years to the other extremes. We have had what you call global warming before.

Like I said SEND ME your globla warming cause it will be in the 20's here in a month or 2 and I have NO gas to heat my house---so I CAN USE the globla warming.
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/resources/askjack/2004-01-08-answers-warming-gulf-stream_x.htm


Answers: Could warming cool Europe, maybe start an ice age
By Jack Williams, USATODAY.com
Q: Could global warming really slow down the Gulf Stream and cool Europe, or maybe even start a new ice age?

Ice cores, like this one being taken from Greenland's Ice Sheet, give evidence of how Gulf Steam's slowing affected past climates.
Jack Williams, USATODAY.com

Some climate scientists say this could happen, but it is far from a sure thing.

The warm water the Gulf Steam carries into the North Atlantic is generally credited with making Europe warmer than places at similar latitudes in North America. (This might not be as clear cut as we often hear. See "A new look at the Gulf Stream" at the bottom of this page.)

The Gulf Stream is part of a global system of ocean currents, which the generally accepted theory says, is driven at least in part by salty, cold water sinking in the northern Atlantic. As the water sinks, more water flows north to replace it, which means if anything slows down the sinking, the Gulf Stream would slow down and maybe other currents would slow down.

This "thermohaline (from the Greek words for heat and salt) circulation" is an important part of the Earth's climate that includes not only currents at the tops of the oceans, such as the Gulf Stream, but also currents deep under the water. The system is global and includes water that sinks around Antarctica.

The idea that a warmer world could slow the thermohaline circulation is based on the fact that anything that made the water of the North Atlantic less salty or warmer would slow down the circulation.

This is because the colder water becomes, or the more salty it becomes, the more dense (heavy) it is. Warmer or less dense water wouldn't sink as fast.

Warming could make the North Atlantic less salty by increasing the rain that falls on the ocean and also by adding more fresh water from melting arctic ice. If the water that flows into the North Atlantic from the Arctic Ocean became warmer, this would warm the Atlantic, possibly slowing the circulation. (Related story: Scientists struggle to learn Arctic Ocean's secrets)

Based on evidence from ice cores from Greenland's Ice Sheet and other sources, scientists have good reason to think that the climate made some abrupt climate changes in the past and that changes in the thermohaline circulation could have been involved. (Related document: National Science Foundation press release)

By the way, when climate scientists talk about "abrupt climate change," they are not talking about a glacier covering New York City in a matter of days or weeks.

Here's an example of what scientists mean by "abrupt climate change: The evidence "increasingly suggests that about 11,500 years ago, global temperatures fell by up to 16 degrees (F) within a decade and rainfall halved," says Richard Alley of Pennsylvania State University, a leading expert in abrupt climate change.

What would this mean? Imagine a climate switch that would make temperatures in, say, Wilmington, N.C., more like those in Boston a decade from now. To make the change really extreme, imagine the East Coast becoming as dry as western Nebraska. No one's saying this is likely to happen, but it's the kind of change the Earth has seen in the past.

The movie The Day After Tomorrow uses what scientists know about the abrupt climate changes of the past to build a story about a future abrupt climate change that starts a new ice age. (Related:Movie's 'science' is mostly fiction)

In addition to ignoring what scientists mean by "abrupt climate change" and getting some very basic science wrong, the movie misses a couple of other important points about the change 10,000 years ago:

• The Atlantic Ocean probably became fresher from the melting of the huge ice sheets that covered the northern part of North America at the time. One theory is that as the ice sheet melted a huge lake formed over eastern North America. When the ice dam holding this lake back melted, the water dumped into the Atlantic over a relatively short time.

• After the shift to a cooler climate, the Earth again began warming again toward today's climate after a decade or so.

Where to go for more information

The University of East Anglia in the United Kingdom has a good discussion, with graphics, of the thermohaline circulation

Here are some books you can go to for more information.

• Chapter 5, "Icy Oceans Have Global Reach," of my latest book, The Complete Idiot's Guide to the Arctic and Antarctic, is a quick overview of the global currents. Chapter 26, "Ice Tells Climate Stories," is about ice core research, including how scientists use cores to learn about past climates.

•The Two-Mile Time Machine: Ice Cores, Abrupt Climate Change, and Our Future by Richard Alley, is a good way to begin learning more about ice cores and how scientists came to see that the climate has changed abruptly in the past.

••Abrupt Climate Change: Inevitable Surprises by the National Research Council goes into more detail about what has happened in the past and what could happen in the future.

••The Ice Chronicles: The Quest to Understand Global Climate Change by Paul Andrew Mayewski, Frank White, and Lynn Margulis helps fill out what you will learn from the other books noted above.

You'll find more on all of these by going to the USATODAY.com list of recommended weather books.

The idea of Gulf Stream slowing isn't new

When the idea that global warming could slow the Gulf Stream began getting a lot of press attention in the late 1990s, many of the stories made it sound like this was something new.

The theory is not new, but recent research using computer models that combine the ocean and atmosphere have produced more details on how all of this could work.

The idea that the Gulf Stream would slow down if the North Atlantic grows less salty goes back to early in the 20th century. And, climate scientists developed theories of how this could be linked to global warming during the 1980s. The graphic showing how this could work was in the first edition of the USA TODAY Weather Book, published in 1992 (Page 194).

Spencer Weart discusses the history of ideas about the Gulf Stream being slowed in his book, The Discovery of Global Warming. (Related: Excerpt from Weart's book)

A new look at the Gulf Stream's role

For a long time scientists have thought that the Gulf Stream was the major player in Europe's climate.

But, In January 2003, Richard Seager of Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, Dr. David Battisti of the University of Washington, and their colleagues published research results showing that the "Gulf Stream has little effect on the contrast in winter temperatures between Europe and eastern North America," according to a press release about the research.

I don't know much about this, and I haven't come across any discussion of the idea, but it does show why science is so much fun to follow — you're always hearing new ideas. (Related document: Press release on Gulf Stream research)

Stay tuned. The final word on how warming might affect the Gulf Stream and what this could mean as the climate changes won't be heard for a long time.

Until the final word is heard, however, I am no longer going to flatly state as I (and many others) have done in the past, that the Gulf Steam warms Europe. I'll hedge, as I've done here because that represents the state of the science, for now, at least.

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revdauphinee asked on 10/28/05 - jUST RECIEVED THIS AND IT DISGUSTED ME!

A poem which praises the murder of Jews by the Nazis has been included in a book of children’s poetry to be distributed amongst schools in the UK.

The publication, entitled Great Minds, features the work of school children aged 11 to 18 who won a nationwide literary competition.

But one poem has generated outrage amongst Jewish groups, politicians and Holocaust charities for its anti-Semitic content.

The entry by the 14-year-old Gideon Taylor is apparently written from the viewpoint of Nazi leader Adolf Hitler.

It includes the lines “Jews are here, Jews are there, Jews are almost everywhere, filling up the darkest places, evil looks upon their faces.”

Another part reads: “Make them take many paces for being one of the worst races, on their way to a gas chamber, where they will sleep in their manger… I’ll be happy Jews have died.”

Publisher defends poem

The book was produced by Forward Press who ran the Great Minds competition through its youngwriters.co.uk website.

Wining entries were rewarded with cash prizes of up to 20ukp for pupils and 1,000ukp for schools.

According to the Jewish Telegraph newspaper, the poem was the only entry in the entire book not to include the writer’s school or location.

Young Writers editor Steve Twelvetree, who also edited the book, said the poem was included as it illustrated how the writer was able to empathise with the infamous Nazi Fuehrer.

Make them take many paces for being one of the worst races, on their way to a gas chamber, where they will sleep in their manger… I’ll be happy Jews have died
The poem reads
Twelvetree told the Telegraph: “From Gideon’s poem and my knowledge of the National Curriculum Key Stage 3 his poem shows a good use of technical writing and he has written his poem from the perspective of Adolf Hitler.”

The editor continued: “Key Stage 3 history requires pupils to show knowledge and understanding of events and places - to show historical interpretation and to explain significance of events, people and places, all of which World War II and the Holocaust is part of.

“The poem clearly states ‘I am Adolf Hitler’ and it recounts a historical fact, something Young Writers and Forward Press are not willing to censor.”

Widespread outrage

However, communal leaders were less than impressed with the poem’s inclusion in a book which they said could be influential on youngsters’ views of Jewish people.

It is totally insensitive and inappropriate for this kind of hatred to appear

spokesman for the Holocaust Educational Trust
Chief executive of the Board of Deputies of British Jews Jon Benjamin said: “It is the duty of the publisher to consider the consequences of the poem.”

Jewish Labour MP, Louise Ellman, who represents the constituency of Liverpool Riverside, spoke of her concern.

She said: “It’s an incitement to racial hatred. The words are absolutely outrageous and appalling.”

sapphire630 answered on 10/31/05:


Try this

http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/tnmfobe1196.html

homepage is

http://www.crossroad.to/index.html

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HANK1 asked on 10/30/05 - JUST WONDERING ...


What's your favorite thing about yourself? Your smile? Your sense of humor? Your approach to your religion? What is it?

HANK

sapphire630 answered on 10/31/05:

All I have to offer is my bad luck and depression.
If it weren't for bad luck I'd have NO luck at all!

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HANK1 asked on 10/27/05 - CATCH 22:



Guys and dolls, my brain is trying to combine REALITY with CHRISTIAN thinking. How can I be a REALIST and a CHRISTIAN at the same time? Twenty stars to the person who makes the most sense!

HANK

sapphire630 answered on 10/28/05:

Remember the essence of the serenity prayer: to accept that you cannot change the world or even people's hearts all you can do is pray and be a light!

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Erewhon asked on 10/27/05 - How savage are right wing conservative Christians?

They must be a fierce lot if they can back down the President of the USA, and if he will retreat before them rather than face them and tell them that he is right and they are wrong.

I asked before and I will ask again, just WHO IS running the country?

The ultra-Conservatives were afraid that Miers might go liberal (= fair and just) once she sat on the bench, and not be Bush's poodle on the SC.

What power these faceless men hold in their grasp!

Does the buck stop at the pulpit of some hard liner right wing preacher.

sapphire630 answered on 10/27/05:

My guess is she had something to hide in one way or another. With all the opposition, she saw she could not just breeze in and simply take the position. So the fear of any type of investigation prompted her to withdraw.

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revdauphinee asked on 10/26/05 - why????

I have been comming here since the failure of ask me and have thoroughly enjoyed my every visit ,sure there are folks on here who dissagree with me on many subject s thats part of what i like its the diversity that keeps the sight interesting! however I have been noticing of late thAT newer members seem to do nothing other than desire to change everything from the rating system to the way questions can be answered,what I ask is why???this site has given me and I know others some degree of pleasure or we wouldnt keep logging in I have made many friends, and a few not so friendly ( I live alone and its the closest to company that i get many days)so my question is and always was if it aint broke so why do folks keep wanting to fix it???
I dont for sure know how long answerway has been up and running but I myself have been coming here a while why cant we just leave well enough alone!Its just fine the waY IT IS!it was this way when they came here if they dont like it no one has a gun to the head for them to return,
Loving answerway just as it is
Dorothy

sapphire630 answered on 10/26/05:

Some people are knit-picky or maybe have nothing better to do than find fault.Maybe they think their complaints are their way of contributing or having a constructive day. Or maybe they just aint people persons...like the English teacher that or perfectionist that just dont get it.....Anyway you all are family to me especially the Askme.comers

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arcura asked on 10/25/05 - What would you do? Please think about it!………………

You were just elected president of the USA. You take office tomorrow.
First on your agenda is the war on terror and the one in Iran and Afghanistan.
Regardless of what you may or may not have said during your campaign and keeping in mind the powers and limits of the presidency you must present your plan on what you propose to do about the above to your cabinet and congress.
Keep in mind all the personnel and equipment we have scattered around the world and the agreements and treaties we have signed and in force.
Also keep in mind the jobs, businesses and industries that must prosper in order to pay taxes if nothing else.
So what is your plan?
Please keep it to less than 300 words
Have serious fun in your think box with this.
All answers I think are serious get five stars. All others get...... You guessed it!
Fred

sapphire630 answered on 10/26/05:

I would symbolically bury all the Cindy shehan's (After all she is symbolically dying on the white house lawn today). Then I'd send them to Iraq to **REASON**** with the terrorists.

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Erewhon asked on 10/25/05 - The threat .....

Do you consider the theat that "some folks" might be getting black stars from now on a terrorist threat, and, if so, what precautions should be taken to keep us all safe?

All answers get ***** because that's the kind of guy I am.

sapphire630 answered on 10/26/05:

Yeesh, I am not afraid of the virtual reality of getting beat up over black stars!
(At least not until we end up in the Matrix)

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curious98 asked on 10/26/05 - Rosa Parks

Nearly 50 years ago, Rosa Parks, an African-American, made a simple decision that inspired a revolution. While riding in the front of a segregated bus in Montgomery, Alabama, a white man demanded she give up her seat.


Rosa Parks
Rosa Parks said no. "I didn't want to. I didn't think I should have to. I didn't feel that it was the right thing for us to be enduring."

Parks was arrested, tried and found guilty of violating local segregation laws.

Her arrest triggered a 381day boycott of the city bus system by the black community, who were the largest users, after all.

That boycott ended after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled the city's segregated busing policy was illegal and set off a chain of events that led to the end of legalized segregation in the United States.

Rosa Parks became known as the mother of the civil rights movement and continued her fight for equality on the national stage.

After all this time, would you claim the problem does NO LONGER exist?

Honest comments, only, please

Curious98

sapphire630 answered on 10/26/05:

Where I live the blacks LIKE the back of the bus. I will sit back there too...except when I smell the pot...I hate the smell. I like the back corner seat cause I can put my feet up and relax.
Where I live there really isn't much problem with blacks and whites getting along. All you have to do is walk down a busy street on a nice day and you see white grandmothers with all their bi-racial babies.
I am sure there are a lot of mostly older closet racists here, but you only know that after you have been around them long enough to know them.
The problem where I live is more blacks killing blacks. Back in the 60's and 70's blacks were very united and I never really heard of them killing their own.
As far as I am concerned I wouldn't want my kids to chase after a black boyfriend the way the teenage girls here do. BUT I would rather see them with a decent black guy than a white guy that beats them up. Of course a decent white boyfriend would be great.

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bucker asked on 10/25/05 -
THE LAW IS THE LAW?



This is one of the better e-mails I have received in a long time! I hope this makes its way around the USA several times over!!!!!
So Be It!

THE LAW IS THE LAW





So if the US government determines that it is against the law for the words "under God" to be on our money, then, so be it.

And if that same government decides that the "Ten Commandments" are not to be used in or on a government installation, then, so be it.

I say, "so be it," because I would like to be a law abiding US citizen.

I say, "so be it," because I would like to think that smarter people than I are in positions to make good decisions.

I would like to think that those people have the American public's best interests at heart.

BUT, YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE I'D LIKE?

Since we can't pray to God, can't Trust in God and cannot post His Commandments in Government buildings, I don't believe the Government and its employees should participate in the Easter and Christmas celebrations which honor the God that our government is eliminating from many facets of American life.

I'd like my mail delivered on Christmas, Good Friday, Thanksgiving & Easter. After all, it's just another day.

I'd like the US Supreme Court to be in session on Christmas, Good Friday, Thanksgiving & Easter as well as Sundays. After all, it's just another day.

I'd like the Senate and the House of Representatives to not have to worry about getting home for the "Christmas Break." After all it's just another day.

I'm thinking that a lot of my taxpayer dollars could be saved, if all government offices & services would work on Christmas, Good Friday & Easter. It shouldn't cost any overtime since those would be just like any other day of the week to a government that is trying to be "politically correct."

In fact....

I think that our government should work on Sundays (initially set aside for worshipping God...) because, after all, our government says that it should be just another day....

What do you all think????

If this idea gets to enough people, maybe our elected officials will stop giving in to the minority opinions and begin, once again, to represent the 'majority' of ALL of the American people.

SO BE IT...........

Please Dear Lord,
Give us the help needed to keep you in our country!

'Amen' and 'Amen'

Touche!

These are definitely things I never thought about but from now on, I will be sure to questions those in government who support these changes.

At the top, it says "I hope this makes its way around the USA several times over!!!!!"

Let's see that it does. Keep it in your mailbox and resend it whenever someone new comes along.

sapphire630 answered on 10/25/05:

A. they don't call their breaks Christmas and Easter any way. They call Christmas break something like festive lights and Easter is spring break
B. I say if anybody has a problem with In God we trust in their money---Just mail it to me I will take on the problem
C. They made Judge Moore remove the 10 commandments yet they sit in their Supreme court where the *religious icons and words* or embedded in the very walls.

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HANK1 asked on 10/25/05 - FAIRNESS:



Guys, I'm not griping but ... do you think it's fair to expect a rating for a one or two sentence answer? These sentences have been showing up as wisecracks and put-downs. Most Experts write at least a paragraph. Why should the former be rated the same as the latter? The same effort has not been put into the answer.

HAMK

sapphire630 answered on 10/25/05:

I hate that when I get the *I don't know but sounds like it* type replies.
I call them non answers and don't rate them at all or give them one or two stars with a that was a That was a non answer reply.
IF they make me laugh (even if they are wisecracks and put-downs) they get 5*****'s!

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HANK1 asked on 10/24/05 - ATTACHMENT:



Attachment involves a person's behavior that is independent of his/her direct needs. It assumes that humans are social beings who do NOT just use other people to satisfy their drives. I believe this applies to a poor or lower middle-class person but not the upper middle-class, the rich and the wealthy. Those who come into money can go one of two ways: Be greedy and keep it for him/herself OR spread it around and make friends. I have found over the years that many of my poor friends did the latter and the former became outcasts. If a working class became a ruling class, I readily believe that a Democracy would remain except for the 'self-dealing' turkeys who are running the show now. Most poor people have a tendency to appreciate what they come by. As we know, the ruling class doesn't. Wouldn't it be great to see those in Congress digging ditches 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year without medical insurance? Putting on a new pair of shoes is great ... if you're a poor person. Others take it foregranted. Do you?

HANK

sapphire630 answered on 10/24/05:

I know greedy wasteful poor that appreciate nothing. Their new stuff is broke up and thrown away or sold within a week, then cry they have nothing.
I know rich that can not see the forest thru the trees.

As I always say the rich politicians discuss, over their 250.00 lunch plates how we average and poor Americans can live on 250.00 every 2 weeks.

I do look forward to the day that self-serving people, that will drive right past you when you are walking, end up needing help themselves.

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excon asked on 10/22/05 - I have a question.


Hello Christians:

Why do we, as Americans, put up with liars? They do everything they can to make this country look bad. They bash the men and women who disagree with them. They are trying to turn the American people into a herd of sheep who keep their mouths shut. They don’t believe in any opinions that differs from their own. They call the opposition the most vile names, like traitor and enemy. They’re sneaky and they play one of us against the other.

This whole thing is to make us shut up and never criticize the government again. They don’t like this country the way it is. They want one voice to be heard, and it’s probably not yours.

They’re Fascists. Let us never forget this.

excon

sapphire630 answered on 10/24/05:

Sounds like Bush OR Clinton...sounds like extreme liberal lefty Luies OR Extreme Right
Wringers.

Honest, I never had......







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paraclete asked on 10/23/05 - will you oppose the new Nazi threat?

Nazi racoons on the march

From correspondents in Berlin

October 24, 2005


GERMANY is battling a new threat - "Nazi" raccoons that are ruining the country's wine harvest half a century after Hermann Goering introduced them, saying they would "enrich" the local wildlife.
Goering ordered the creatures released into the German countryside in 1934.

Since then, they have spread through central Europe because they have no natural predators there. They are now destroying Germany's grape harvest.

"Raccoons wiped out almost the entire harvest in a matter of days," said Werner Kothe, who operates a vineyard in the Brandenburg region.

The situation has become so serious in Brandenburg that officials have hired bounty hunters to cull raccoons.


Scientists estimate there may be more than a million in Germany, and say they are spreading to neighbouring countries at an alarming rate.

sapphire630 answered on 10/24/05:

Maybe they need these squirrels to assist them

Squirrels on crack

Oct 7, 2005

NATURE lovers fear that squirrels could become hooked on crack cocaine plundered from addicts' hidden stashes.

The furry animals are thought to be behind a new drugs turf war in Brixton - stealing rocks of crack hidden in front gardens.

Tough police action to rid the town centre of dealers and addicts has seen crackheads abandon their usual drug stash hideouts.

But the blitz has displaced some dealing into nearby residential streets.

Drug addicts are known to be hiding small stashes of crack rocks in people's front lawns late at night.

Squirrels have been spotted in the same front gardens, seemingly hunting out the buried narcotics.

The discovery has led some residents to speculate that the squirrels are already in the grips of addiction. One resident, who asked for his name to be withheld, told the South London Press.

"I was chatting with my neighbour who told me that crack users and dealers sometimes use my front garden to hide bits of their stash.

"An hour earlier I'd seen a squirrel wandering round the garden, digging in the flowerbeds.

"It looked like it knew what it was looking for.

"It was ill-looking and its eyes looked bloodshot but it kept on desperately digging.

"It was almost as if it was trying to find hidden crack rocks."

Crack squirrels are a recognised phenomena in the US.

They are known to live in parks frequented by addicts in New York and Washington DC.

The squirrels have attacked park visitors in their frenzied search for their next fix.

An RSPCA spokesman said he was unaware of the squirrels taking crack in Brixton.

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Choux asked on 10/19/05 - Cremating Taliban Story

ANDAHAR, Afghanistan, Oct. 19 (UPI) -- An Australian television station has shown U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan burning bodies of dead Taliban -- an act of desecration in the Islamic tradition.

The SBS network's Dateline show reported Wednesday that the troops then broadcast taunts about the desecration into a nearby village believed to shelter Taliban sympathizers.

Cremation is an act offensive to Muslims and a possible breach of the Geneva Conventions governing the treatment of enemy remains in wartime.

The U.S. military told the program that they burned the bodies for hygiene reasons, an explanation that its reporters doubted.

The Pentagon had no immediate comment.

The Dateline footage showed soldiers burning the bodies and a U.S. Army psychological operations unit broadcasting taunts about the act via loudspeaker into a nearby village believed to be sheltering Taliban and their sympathizers.

The village, Gonbaz in southern Afghanistan, is about 60 miles from the former Taliban stronghold of Kandahar.

According to a translation of the taunts, which were delivered in the local language, provided by U.S. forces at the scene, Taliban fighters thought hiding nearby were callec "cowardly dogs".

"You allowed your fighters to be laid down facing west and burned. You are too scared to retrieve their bodies. This just proves you are the lady boys we always believed you to be," the message said, according to a transcript of the program provided by SBS.

"We know who you are," the message continued, "Your time in Afghanistan is short. You attack and run away like women. You call yourself Talibs but you are a disgrace to the Muslim religion and you bring shame upon your family. Come and fight like men instead of the cowardly dogs you are."

Muslim funeral tradition requires that bodies be washed, prayed over, wrapped in white linen and buried, if possible within 24 hours. According to the Geneva Conventions the disposal of war dead "should be honorable, and, if possible, according to the rites of the religion to which the deceased belonged."

In May this year, inaccurate reports that U.S. jailers at its detention center at Guantanamo bay, Cuba, had desecrated a copy of the Koran by flushing it down the toilet were cited as a cause of rioting in Afghanistan and Pakistan that killed dozens of people.


Yeah, I didn't believe you Clete, but here is the story.

sapphire630 answered on 10/19/05:

Personally I'd rather be burned than have my head chopped off. Does it matter that we find it offensive that contracters from our country had their heads chopped off and videoed to rub it in even more? We have to be Politically correct and not offensive.....

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JesseJamesDupree asked on 10/19/05 - Am I backslidden or Mature?

When I was first Saved, for the first year or two I ran around telling whoever would listen,(Even those that wouldn't) about how they ought to repent and accept Jesus Christ as their Savior, I still do occasionally but it seems I've tempered my approach the last year or so. I believe that each person needs to feel the need to repent, they don't need any help from me, cause Lord knows i am a sinner ONLY SAVED THROUGH GRACE. So basically I kind of let people alone, if they have a question they ask me, but basically I mind my own business. Every one where I work knows I'm a Christian and frankly I don't feel the need to be "Holier than Thou", so is this the mark of a backslider or a Maturing Christian? Inquiring minds want to know;)

sapphire630 answered on 10/19/05:

I think you mighta learned the 'Don't cast your pearls before swine'. Or modern day translation 'Don't waste your breath on deaf ears'.
I'd say maturing Christian.



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paraclete asked on 10/19/05 - how respecting are americans of muslims?

As one who is accused of having a problem with Muslims let me tell you that I don't have the same problems as the US military, who deliberately antagonise Muslims in Afganistan in order to provote them into fighting. I have just watched film of american soldiers deliberately facing a corpse to Mecca and burning it. Don't tell me I'm out of line again when you cannot put a leash on your military, and the analogy is accurate. You can expect riots again when the Muslims learn of this

sapphire630 answered on 10/19/05:

After Saddam's day in court. I'd say they have more respect than I would get....If I acted the exact same way he did in court I woulda been slapped with contempt of court fines and whatever else they could get me with.
I don't think a few bad apples should be whbat we are jugded by but that is the way it works. People like Lyndie England and others should have common sense and be a true and decent representation of our country but then again most politicians can't even make that claim honestly.

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ROLCAM asked on 10/19/05 - A VERY VEXED QUESTION ??

Tony, an 82-year-old expatriate with advanced lung cancer, had an overweening desire to go home there to lay his bones to rest. Unfortunately, he developed secondary cancer in his throat which prevented him taking food by mouth. The question posed to his carers was whether to give this person artificial nutrition and hydration to enable him to achieve his last wish and travel to his native land. Would this procedure be considered as "ordinary and proportionate and as such morally obligatory" or would it be considered to be unnecessary interference with the normal process of dying?

rolcam

sapphire630 answered on 10/19/05:

Have to agree with Excon and Aton.
The doctors only keep you as long as they have to and then you are out the door!
X was in a horrible car accident on Aug 27. Ike,the driver, died immediately. X had to be cut out of the back seat (He had been sitting in the front). X was life flighted to hosp. He had stitches across the top of his head, 2 broken neck bones, 3 broken vertabraes, broken ribs and a broken jaw.
The hosp. let him go Oct 14 with a feeding tube in his stomach because they said the ins. wouldn't pay any more. I am sure he hates having to pour his beer in his feeding tube. I am sure he is glad he is out so he can though.

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bucker asked on 10/18/05 - Good or bad?

How does and atheist know what is good or bad? On what do they base it..

sapphire630 answered on 10/19/05:

Good answers....I'll just add
many learn the hard way about
what goes around comes around

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arcura asked on 10/19/05 - 150 years supply of gas and oil awaites in USA the main land ground.

This from Agape Press....
Montana's governor says his state and many others have enough coal to meet the energy needs of the U.S. for the next 150 years or so. Brian Schweitzer is urging the federal government to put more resources into an 82-year-old process to convert coal into gasoline -- and he thinks it is a national security issue. Governor Schweitzer says he has had conversations with officials from the Department of Defense about what they think the next major conflict will be. Their conclusion, says the governor, is that it is going to be war about oil. "Every day, when you fill up your car with gasoline, a portion of that money makes it into the pockets of some of these dictators," Schweitzer says, "and those dictators are giving some of that money to these international terrorists to destroy our way of life." That causes the Montana chief executive to wonder: "Why would we continue to import oil from all of these rascals and crooks from around the world when we could look to our own resources?" Schweitzer claims it was those conversations with the DoD that led him to pursue clean coal technology, which converts coal directly to liquids. "They recognize the war that we're going to fight in the next generation is going to be a war about oil," he shares. "And all over the world we have folks we buy oil from who already are not our friends, who are already contributing to international terrorism to try to destroy our way of life." According to Schweitzer, his state contains about 30 percent of the nation's coal supply. He adds that countries like South Africa and Communist China are already converting coal to oil. [Chad Groening]

sapphire630 answered on 10/19/05:

I agree with Drgade. The enviromentalists have it where we are not allowed to dig for oil because we have to preserve our ecology so go mess up other countries ecosystem instead. We haven't been allowed to build new refineries for over 20 years.
We could do like Willie Nelson, Linda Ronsstat and others and drive diesel run on peanut or popcorn oil.

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kindj asked on 10/19/05 - Don't put away the mops

Or the checkbooks just yet. Looks like we've got a record-breaking hurricane bearing down yet again.

And to think I was actually considering a move to the gulf coast a year ago...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9710472/

sapphire630 answered on 10/19/05:

I was ready to head that way when I heard Katrina was coming. I would have had a clear high way in :). But I have to wait one more year and by then they will probably be well into the Greek alphabet, if it is anything like this year.
I remember the hurricane I played in back in 98. WAS FUN!

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ATON2 asked on 10/18/05 - "Not in Florida and Not in my State"!!!

For those of you who are as appalled as I over the new Shoot First Law in Florida, there is something you can do. Log on to www.ShootFirstLaw.Org and sign the petition to Jeb Bush to correct his horrendous mistake. "Tell Governor Bush he made a mistake. The people of Florida deserve better than to be gunned down by the short-tempered and trigger happy. They deserve better than to have the law put into the hands of private citizens."
The danger is that this criminally negligent law will not stop in Florida but will become, in today's climate of 'fear and loathing'...the law of the land.
America will become an armed camp of 'vigilantes' shooting at anything that moves....and that could include YOU!!!!! Stop the cowboys, NOW!!!!!

sapphire630 answered on 10/18/05:

If JesseJamesDupree weren't der to save ole granny Hawkins she might be dead by the time the police got there. I have to ask all the time where are the police when you need them!

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Choux asked on 10/18/05 - Just for Fun

Ananova(UK on line tabloid):

**David Copperfield to 'magic' girl pregnant**

"David Copperfield says he plans to impregnate a girl on stage - without even touching her.

Speaking to German magazine Galore, the illusionist rejected the theory that there were only seven different kinds of magic tricks.

He said: "Bull S/! There is a great deal of new territory to conquer. In my next show I'm going to make a girl pregnant on stage."

He added: "Naturally it will be without sex. Everyone will be happy about it, but I'm not telling you any more."

The magician is currently on tour in Germany with his show, An Intimate Evening of Grand Illusion.


Comments...

sapphire630 answered on 10/18/05:

Hope he is ready to magically come up with the child support money. ---->

A nurse froze sperm from an old relationship from years ago of a guy that she didn't stay with. Years later she used the sperm and filed for child support. The guy denied it was his baby but DNA proved it WAS his and he is stuck with the child support.

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paraclete asked on 10/17/05 - interesting?

TYPE the word FAILURE into GOOGLE and hit the I FEEL LUCKY
>> button, and do it
>> quick B4 the folks at google fix it!!!!

sapphire630 answered on 10/17/05:

Failure and I feel lucky sounds like an oxymoron.

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arcura asked on 10/15/05 - Here is something to think about the ACLU

ACLU defends polygamy
Legal group backs 'freedom of choice'
The president of the American Civil Liberties Union says polygamy is among the "fundamental rights" that her organization will continue to defend.
During a question-and-answer session after a speech at Yale University, ACLU president Nadine Strossen stated that her organization has "defended the right of individuals to engage in polygamy," reported AgapePress, noting that the comments cited by the Yale Daily News received little attention.
The student paper said Strossen was responding to a "student's question about gay marriage, bigamy, and polygamy."
The ACLU chief said her organization defends "the freedom of choice for mature, consenting individuals," making it "the guardian of liberty ... defend[ing] the fundamental rights of all people."
Some opponents of same-sex marriage -- including, notably, Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa. -- have argued that its acceptance will create a slipperly slope, leading to the sanctioning of other types of relationships, including polygamy.
Crawford Broadcasting radio talk-show host Paul McGuire says the ACLU "has declared legal war on the traditional family."
"Now the ACLU is defending polygamy," he said, according to AgapePress. "You know, there are male and female lawyers who wake up in the morning and are actually proud of being ACLU lawyers. But I think the majority of Americans view ACLU lawyers as people who hate America and who want to destroy all Judeo-Christian values and beliefs."
McGuire asserts Strossen's organization seems "to only defend things that tear down the fabric of society."

sapphire630 answered on 10/17/05:

ACLU is all about doing away with tradition and making a path for porn in every area of life. They are the ones pushing for homosexuals orienting youth to their way of life as being as a normal lifestyle for the kids as heterosexual. I think they even back NAMBLA.

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paraclete asked on 10/16/05 - Could this be true?

* JESUS REBUKED THE FIG AS AN EVIL ABOMINATION.
"Now in the morning as he returned into the city, he was hungry.
"And when he saw a fig tree by the road, he came to it, and found nothing on it, but leaves only, and said to it, Let no fruit grow on you henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away.
"And when the disciples saw it, they marvelled, saying, How soon has the fig tree withered away!"
--Matthew 21:18-20

* JESUS COMMANDED US NOT TO EAT OF THE CURSED FIG.
"The next day, when they came from Bethany, he was hungry:
"And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if perhaps he might find any thing on it: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet.
"And Jesus answered and said to it, No man eat fruit of you hereafter forever. And his disciples heard it.
--Mark 11:12-14

* EAT A FIG, GO TO HELL.
"He destroyed their vines with hail and their sycamore-figs with sleet."
--Psalm 78:47

* GOD PROMISES TERRIBLE VENGEANCE FOR FIG-EATERS.
"Yes, this is what the LORD Almighty says: "I will send the sword, famine and plague against them and I will make them like poor figs that are so bad they cannot be eaten."
--Jeremiah 29:17

In summary, figs are the source of all the world's evils. They are a plague upon humanity and an abomination in the sight of the Lord.

What is your opinion, is the fig cursed.

sapphire630 answered on 10/17/05:

I had a Bible teacher in the 70's that showed us those verses and verses from Genesis and compared them and came up with a very interesting teaching how the tree that people assume was an apple tree was actually a fig tree. God cursed it in Genesis yet nothing happened to it until Jesus cursed it again....And Jesus *answered* and said to it....

Why was the word *answered* used when the tree didn't ask anything. He was answering the curse to the tree from Genesis.


Why would Jesus curse the tree that he knew was not in season to begin with and why would he take it out on others by keeping others from eatting its fruit?

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sissypants asked on 10/17/05 - how do you?

from a christian stand point, how do you personally forgive and forget as instructed by Jesus and not be made a fool of over and over again?

sapphire630 answered on 10/17/05:

You can forgive a person it doesn't mean you have to bother with them any more. The Bible says forgive it doesn't say we have to forget. The memory will always be there and if we truly learned a lesson from what they did we wouldn't forget. For example if a friend keeps lying and stealing from you you aren't expected to keep letting them get you in a position where they keep lying and stealing from you. If that means never bothering with them or never letting them back in your house then that is what you have to do. God doesn't expect us to be a doormat for people to use us to death; nor does he expect us to be friends with everybody that comes our way especially when they take advantage.

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HANK1 asked on 10/06/05 - DEVILISH QUESTION:



Is the Devil a homosexual?

sapphire630 answered on 10/06/05:

I think he is too busy getting others to do his dirty work that he ain't got time for anything!

excuse me while I'm
out to lunch
sapph


enjoy the popcorn

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godot asked on 10/01/05 - Depression

The WHO has projected that depression will be a major cause of death by 2020. Do you share that view?
Why do some Christians suffer from stress and depression if they believe in Christ?

sapphire630 answered on 10/03/05:

If so it is because people are now taught that everything is suppost to be all good and bubbly and not how to deal with when they are depressed or why...just suppress it and look for the good times....so then when they are depressed they feel like things are too miserable and no hope.
Elton John has an interesting view of seeing depression as a positive thing.

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HANK1 asked on 10/01/05 - EDGAR CAYCE:


What do you know about Edgar Cayce and his Spirit Realms concept?

HANK


sapphire630 answered on 10/03/05:

From what I know of him he was into much occult type stuff of the spiritual realm....I think some of it is a fine line that is why I haven't gotten into much of the *spiritual realm*

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Erewhon asked on 09/29/05 - Ban on silly ad hominem postings

How about a ban on silly postins such as Sarnian's 'clarifications' reproduced below?

If you feel that they help the board, then fine. Let him continue. I could care less.


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Clarification/Follow-up by Erewhon on 09/29/05 11:07 am:
Sorry, Hank.

Unless it is contrary to the Regs of AW I will not agree to any further encroachment on my personal liberty.

Clarification/Follow-up by sarnian on 09/29/05 2:04 pm:
Of course Ronnie

You can't state anything under 150 lines .....

;)

Clarification/Follow-up by sarnian on 09/29/05 2:04 pm:

And it's difficult to write that all yourself ;)

Clarification/Follow-up by sarnian on 09/29/05 2:04 pm:

So you have to cut and paste ;)

Clarification/Follow-up by sarnian on 09/29/05 2:04 pm:

Because it's your "personal liberty" ;)



























Clarification/Follow-up by sarnian on 09/29/05 2:04 pm:

Just as your childish attacks ;)



























Clarification/Follow-up by sarnian on 09/29/05 2:04 pm:

And twisting of words ;)




























Clarification/Follow-up by sarnian on 09/29/05 2:04 pm:

MY "HERO"! ;)






























sapphire630 answered on 09/29/05:

I guess you is right...
Me thinks it stinks but they ain't goin' for my cajun joke so I guess the silly cut & paste posts do not help the board

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HANK1 asked on 09/26/05 - HOW'S THIS FOR APPRECIATION:


From a VOLUNTEER who worked at the Convention Center in New Orleans during the Katrina affair:

"I just witnessed selfish, arrogant, unappreciative behavior by the very people who need help the most. Now these same people who cursed me refused my cities generosity, who refuse to help themselves are DEMANDING handouts on their own terms!!!!!!! They prance around as if they are owed something, and when they do receive a handout, they say it's not good enough!"

The e-mail was forwarded to me by a friend. It was quite long. This is just an excerpt. I didn't post the real disgusting part.

Any comments?

HANK

sapphire630 answered on 09/29/05:

There are many people just like that everywhere I go I see it. It is unbelievable how people act like you owe them and then they don't appreciate it. I know hundreds of different examples. They blow their money most often on drugs and then demand others take care of feeding and watching their kids because they don't have any food stamps left after trading them 50/100 for drugs. Just the other day my neighbors son got a $40.00 tattoo and then cried to his mom that she must not care about him because he doesn't have $50.00 to pay on his fine.

I am sure it is abundant with the hurricane victims as well.

They have said most of the stories turned out to not be true, but I do know the 'victim owed' attitute is everywhere.

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excon asked on 09/26/05 - Moral Question


Hello Christians:

Can an artist make beautiful art even if he happens to be a pedophile? If you think that a pedophile artist can make good art, would YOU pay to see it?

Would you buy a refrigerator from GE if you found out that the president of GE was a wife beater?

Inquiring minds want to know.

excon

PS> Oh, by the way, I'm talking about Roman Polanski. He has a new movie coming out that is being widely advertised. Lots of people say it's good.

sapphire630 answered on 09/29/05:

Well I do not want to give up my Ronettes songs because of what Phil Spectrum supposedly did a year or so ago.

I heard that Roman Polanski was dealing drugs with or buying drugs from Charles Manson and that is why Sharon Tate murders happened.
I heard Elton John was knighted but I have never heard of him being a pediphile. (Maybe it is a case of people assuming gays are pediphiles)
Some of the things this 'God blessed USA' does makes me not want to participate in America.

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Bradd asked on 09/26/05 - Some Evidence Please

Several of you have claimed that healing is a "regular" occurrence (paraclete), everyone has healing powers (madima), yes, more than I can count (liz22), and my favorite "Yes, I have had the honor or raising a person from death"!!!!!!! (bucker - who else?).

Please, can any of you provide ANY evidence of such miraculous claims? Are we supposed to just take your word for it?

sapphire630 answered on 09/29/05:

I know how to heal just about anything from a cold to cancer with herbs, vitamins & minerals does that count?

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sarnian asked on 09/28/05 - Answer to "Question on Christianity (5)" .................................


Accordingly to the Bible : where does God live?
Note : it is NOT in heaven, nor on a planet between the sun and the stars (the Mormon answer)
Actually there are TWO totally opposing answers to this question.
But than that's normal in the bible .....


No correct answers were received, though Laura came near.
I stated there there was an OPPOSING answer to the answer to my question.


"On a planet between the sun and the stars" is the Mormon answer.
That view considers God to be a natural being living on a planet. So that can't be correct.
Besides that : there are no planets between the sun and the stars.
Planets (by their description as planet) have the habit to orbit a star. If it does not orbit a star it's not a planet.

Answer : God lives in darkness

"Then spake Solomon, the Lord said that he would dwell in the thick darkness." (I Kings 8:12).

Repeated in II Chronicles 6:1) "And he made darkness pavilions round about him, dark waters, and thick clouds of the skies." (II Samuel 22:12)

"He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies." (Psalm 18:11)

"The Lord reigneth; let the earth rejoice . . . clouds and darkness are round about him." (Psalm 97:1-2)


Contradicting statement

( I John 1:5:) : "God is light, and in him is no darkness at all . . . If we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another."

How can anyone who "is" light live in darkness?

sapphire630 answered on 09/29/05:

In comparison to God ALL else is darkness so I guess God does live in darkness but of course he is the light that shines & pierces the darkness.

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bucker asked on 09/29/05 - Where are there contradictions in the bible?

There are misinterpretation, there are misunderstandings. But there are no mistakes in the bible. God's word has withstood many attempts to distroy it, and to prove it wrong. None have succeeded.
No other book in the world has survived all these attempts, and still remains intact. Some who do not underatand it, call it false. If they do not understand it, it is wrong. It could never be them.
Well come on, put your mouth where your doubts are...
Prove it...

sapphire630 answered on 09/29/05:

Exactly what I have said for years. We just don't get the whole picture yet.

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Choux asked on 09/29/05 - Popular Misconception

The ban on cut and pastes starts on Oct 1st, so, anyway, here it goes:
Cut and Paste

IT IS a staple scene of B-movies and Westerns: the cowboy stumbles into a patch of quicksand and is sucked under until only his stetson remains on top, or sinks up to his neck until hauled out by his sidekick.

Both scenarios have now been proved to fly in the face of physics. Research has shown that it is impossible for people to sink into quicksand much beyond the waist — but it is equally impossible to pull someone out once they are stuck.

Any attempt to drag a person out with a horse or truck would put them in much greater danger than leaving them be: the forces involved would tear them apart. To pull a person’s foot out would require as much force as it takes to lift a family car, and the body would give way before the sand relinquished its grip.

At least one commonly held belief about quicksand, however, does turn out to be true, the first detailed analysis of the physics of the treacherous goo has found. Struggling and thrashing your legs will make you sink more quickly. It is movement that makes unstable the mixture of sand, clay and salt water that makes up quicksand.

The research, led by Daniel Bonn, of the Ecole Normal Supérieure in Paris, gives the lie to dozens of famous film scenes in which the protagonists drown or are rescued.

Perhaps the most famous example is the 1959 Hammer film The Hound of the Baskervilles, in which a woman is sucked to her death by quicksand and Sherlock Holmes, played by Peter Cushing, narrowly escapes the same fate.

Other films to feature implausible quicksand scenes include Lawrence of Arabia, Flash Gordon, King Solomon’s Mines, The Jungle Book, Ice Cold in Alex and Crusoe.

In the study, Dr Bonn recreated quicksand in the laboratory to show how it becomes unstable, how far objects of different densities will sink into it and how anything stuck in it can be removed. The results are published today in Nature.

He was inspired by a holiday to Iran with his wife, on which they passed a field of quicksand. “The local shepherds told me that complete live camels had disappeared in it, and I told them that couldn’t be true,” Dr Bonn said. “When I got back, I decided to prove it.”

Quicksand is a mixture of fine sand, clay and salt water, in which the grains are delicately balanced in a very unstable matrix. This makes it superficially solid, but it collapses into a gunge when disturbed. Dr Bonn likened it to the game pick-up sticks, in which sticks have to be removed from a pile without disturbing it.

Once the quicksand is disturbed by movement on the surface, it liquefies, causing anything on top to sink into it very easily. The sand and clay then fall to the bottom of the mixture, creating a thick sediment that ultimately prevents further sinking, but makes it very difficult to escape.

Just how far anything will sink depends on its density, and how much it moves. “Any unfortunate victim should sink halfway into the quicksand, but could then take solace from the knowledge that there would be no risk of being sucked beneath the surface,” Dr Bonn said. One option to get out is for the person to wiggle his feet gently, gradually allowing water in around the edges. He could then pull himself up by fractions of an inch at a time.

It is only possible to drown by falling in head first. “This I think is where the myth of drowning in quicksand comes from,” Dr Bonn said.

******Bad film physics******

Broken windows: hero jumps through window, not a scratch. In reality jumping through plate glass would slice off body parts.

Flashing bullets: sparks as bullets ricochet off walls, doors etc. Bullets are made of copper-clad lead or lead alloys which do not produce sparks in this way.

Bangs in space: sound is carried by a wave that needs matter to propagate. Outer space is, in essence, a vacuum in which no one can hear you scream.


Science in action! Science tells us how reality works. No guesswork.

Comments?

sapphire630 answered on 09/29/05:

I think it was 'em 'ere dang dingo boots dat sunk 'em, therefore they DID sink!


I have always wanted to know and still would like to know------>>


WHERE THE HECK IS there any FOR REAL quicksand like the movies show anyway!?

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Laura asked on 09/21/05 - Rita vs Katrina

Some politicians (mostly democrats) are wondering why FEMA is so ready now for hurricane Rita but wasn't for Katrina.. Now isn't that a really stupid question given what has gone on the last few weeks?? I think it is. I mean really...it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out!

But I can just hear it now.."Oh it's because it's Bush's home state" "Oh it's because of the oil there" "Oh it's because their not as poor"

NO!!! it would most likely be because they are now more prepared "because" of the mistakes that were made with Katrina and nothing more.

sapphire630 answered on 09/22/05:

Just the loony extreme liberal left at their damned if you do damned if you don't Bush bashing!

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Pete_Hanysz asked on 09/21/05 - The return of Jesus

Some of you guys talk a lot about Christ's imminent
return to earth. I would love to know how you would recognise & receive him.

Please spare me the clouds & trumpets! stuff.

sapphire630 answered on 09/22/05:

I do not believe the rapture like most Christians do, but Jesus will return and his own will know him. It will be more of a spiritual type recognition by the true believers. The Bible does warn that in the end times many will be deceived by false Christs, but the true believers will not be deceived.

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Choux asked on 09/21/05 - Second Coming of Christ

Didn't Fundamentalist Christians think that President Bush was the second coming?

sapphire630 answered on 09/22/05:

maybe the anti-christs right hand man?

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Laura asked on 09/22/05 - What a mess!!

Since the nature of storms like Katrina and Rita as far as direction is concerned, people just can't leave at the first thought that it "might" be headed their way. So usually people wait until three days or so before issuing evacuations and such. But looking at Texas right now the highways are at a virtual standstill. People will run out of gas before they can really get anywhere. One lady talking to a news person by cell phone was turning back toward her home because she had been on the road over 8 hours and only got 10 miles. How can we expect the government to be prepared for something like this unless they issue mandatory evacuations a week or two in advance of a storm that "might" hit a particular area??

sapphire630 answered on 09/22/05:

Unless I was going to the airport, I would be heading for Pasadena to Baytown and then taking the back roads out of there. Forget I 10 and the katy freeway!

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bucker asked on 09/17/05 - half full, or half empty?

If two people. each holding up a glass, with water half way to the top, and also half way to the bottom.
Are they half full, or half empty? Now, if one says mine is holf full, and the other says his is half empty, which is right. Does that mean that the one is not half full, just because the man said the word wrong. Would you try to decide if the galsses were half full, or half empth, or would you all jump on the mispronounced word, and miss the real meaning of the question?

sapphire630 answered on 09/19/05:

Just drink the drink and don't worry about it. Then you can refill the dang thing!--for a quarter!

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Erewhon asked on 09/19/05 - God's wrath in New Orleans

If, as some have said, the destruction of New Orleans is God's wrath for its wickedess, how do you explain the fact that the most bawdy part, ze French Quarter, escaped unscathed, and those least likely to venture into that part of the city, the poor, were the hardest hit?

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sapphire630 answered on 09/19/05:

I think it is in a way a warning. But like I told my boss when she asked if I thought it was "God" I told her Then most of America needs hit cause all most of America needs woke up.

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arcura asked on 09/19/05 - Babies Bought Sold and Traded.....................

Believe it or not, this is a cut and past.
What do you think about after readin this news story?
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Babies Bought Sold and Traded
A Dark Side of the Consumer Mind-set

LONDON, SEPT. 17, 2005 (Zenit.org).- Abortion advocates' decades-long push to deny or downplay the humanity of the unborn child is bearing fruit. Unborn children are increasingly being treated like consumer products, if recent news stories are an indication.

Last Saturday the London-based Times published a story describing how the Institute for Problems of Cryobiology and Cryomedicine of the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine, in Kharkov, sells baby parts. The list on its Web site offers a variety of cells and other tissues from babies.

The institute alleges that the material comes from fetuses aborted at an early stage of life. But, according to the Times, this claim is under doubt after revelations that live newborn babies have been disappearing from maternity wards
in the city of Kharkov.

The article quoted an ex-employee of the institute, Juliya Kopeika, who said that Ukrainian scientists in the field had long benefited from a more relaxed approach to ethical issues. Moreover, Ukrainian law considers that babies born before 27 weeks or weighing less than 1 kilogram (2.2 pounds) are automatically considered abortions. As such, the babies are not officially registered, and are sometimes taken away from their mothers and not returned, human rights activists told the Times.

Last April 17, a report in another British newspaper, the Observer, alleged that Ukrainian women were being paid to sell their fetuses to clinics. The tissues are then used for beauty treatments that purportedly rejuvenate the skin and cure diseases. The Observer claimed that the women were paid 100 pounds ($182 at current exchange rates) per fetus, which were later sold in Russia for up to 5,000 pounds ($9,100).

Fresh embryos

This past week, concern was expressed in Canada over the use of "fresh" embryos as a source of stem cells, reported the National Post on Tuesday. An article published in the Canadian Medical Association Journal warned that women are being encouraged to donate fresh, as opposed to "surplus," frozen embryos left over from previous in-vitro fertilization treatments, to create stem cells.

The authors of the article, Dr. Jeffrey Nisker, of the University of Western Ontario, and Dr. Francoise Baylis, of Dalhousie University in Halifax, also warned that the women might be decreasing their chances of getting pregnant in the future.

As well, Baylis complained about the "surreptitious" way the Canadian Institutes of Health Research, a federal agency, quietly changed the rules on June 7 to explicitly allow stem-cell researchers to use fresh human embryos. Only two days later, a Toronto research team headed by Dr. Andras Nagy announced it was not only working with fresh embryos but had already used them to create Canada's first human embryonic stem cells.

Jeffrey Nisker co-chaired Health Canada's advisory committee on reproductive and genetic technology, which disbanded last year once the federal government passed the new law governing reproductive technology. He told the National Post: "Never for one moment did [the committee] imagine that a woman would ever be approached to give up a fresh embryo." Nisker said the issue demands clarification and added that he thinks physicians who ask women to donate fresh embryos might be breaking the medical code of ethics.

Meanwhile, the scientist who created Dolly the sheep, Ian Wilmut, argued that human embryonic stem cells should be used, in order to save animals from being used in tests. The Scottish newspaper Herald reported Sept. 8 that Wilmut argued that this research would be "more ethical."

In a speech at Glasgow University Vet School, Wilmut said that studying incurable human diseases by creating embryos and cloning them as cell lines would save "potentially many thousands of animals."

Wilmut recently applied for a license to use embryonic stem cells to develop a cure for amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, Lou Gehrig's disease, a motor-neuron disorder.

Eliminating the "unfit"

Babies suffering from genetic defects are increasingly being eliminated, the Washington Post reported in an in-depth article last April 29. The article explained that according to a survey of nearly 3,000 parents of children with Down syndrome, published in the American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology, health professionals who do prenatal screening commonly give negative depictions to parents of the consequences of bearing a child with this problem.

"In many cases the doctors were insensitive or just plain rude," said the author, Harvard medical student Brian Skotko, whose 24-year-old sister has Down syndrome.

The article explained that changes in past years have greatly improved the situation for those who suffer from Down syndrome. Instead of being relegated to institutions they now tend to live among the general population, and better medical attention has seen a dramatic increase in life expectancy. Babies who survive often live into their 50s, according to the National Down Syndrome Society.

But, according to an article by George Neumayr, in the June issue of the American Spectator, researchers estimate that 80% or more of babies now being diagnosed with Down syndrome in prenatal tests are aborted. As well, a high percentage of fetuses with cystic fibrosis are aborted.

In fact, since the 1960s, the number of Americans with anencephaly and spina bifida has markedly declined. This drop corresponds to the rise of prenatal screening, Neumayr explained.

And doctors who do not warn mothers about their fetuses' defects run the risk of being sued. The article quoted the publication Medical Malpractice Law & Strategy: "[C]ourt rulings across the country are showing that the increased use of genetic testing has substantially exposed physicians' liability for failure to counsel patients about hereditary disorders."

Consumer-friendly

It's not only the unborn who are at risk. In an opinion article in the April 17 edition of the London-based Sunday Times, Brenda Power commented on the case of a Tristan Dowse, a 3-year-old adopted by Irish couple Joe and Lala Dowse while they were living in Indonesia.

The couple adopted after not being able to conceive a child. But two years later, Lala managed to have a child of her own. When the couple decided to leave the country, they left Tristan behind too. They abandoned Tristan at the orphanage, which Power described as having "a consumer-friendly returns policy." Apparently under Irish laws what the parents did was legal.

Not all the news, however, is negative. Stories continue to come out of mothers who sacrifice their lives in order to give their unborn children a chance to live. Such was the case of an Italian woman, Rita Fontana, recounted in the national daily, La Repubblica, last Jan. 26.

Already the mother of two children, Rita was expecting her third when diagnosed with a melanoma. She refused treatment that would have put her unborn child's life in danger. Barely three months after Federico was born, his mother died.

Her husband, Enrico, explained that Rita had said it was impossible for her to endanger the life of the unborn baby, saying that it would be like killing one of the two other children in order to save her life.

He added that Rita had seen the new child as a gift and as a miracle, not as a condemnation. And certainly not as a consumer product.
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sapphire630 answered on 09/19/05:

I heard things like this years ago. I heard collagen in make-up was often from fetuses sold to Europe and put in cosmetics and other things. If people could see aborted fetuses they would not be able to say they are only tissue prior to birth. I have also heard about babies being killed as they were being born but still inside the mother so that technically it could be called abortion as opposed to murder.

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Choux asked on 09/14/05 - Exorcists Comvention

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Orthodontists have national conventions, as do lawyers and computer salespeople. So why not exorcists? At the end of his weekly general audience Wednesday Pope Benedict greeted Italian exorcists who, he disclosed, are currently holding their national convention.

The Pope encouraged them to "carry on their important work in the service of the Church."

Problem was that until the Pope spoke few people outside the inner circle knew that a convention of Beelzebub-busters was going on, presumably in Rome.

And where were they holding it? In a church, a hotel, a graveyard?

"They try to keep these things quiet," said a Catholic professor who has dealings with exorcists.

The Roman Catholic Church has shown growing interest in exorcism in Italy.

In 1999, the Vatican issued its first updated ritual for exorcism since 1614 and warned that the devil is still at work.

The official Roman Catholic exorcism starts with prayers, a blessing and sprinkling of holy water, the laying on of hands on the possessed, and the making of the sign of the cross.

It ends with an "imperative formula" in which the devil is ordered to leave the possessed.

The formula begins: "I order you, Satan..." It goes on to denounce Satan as "prince of the world" and "enemy of human salvation." It ends: "Go back, Satan."



What say you?

sapphire630 answered on 09/15/05:

I have been to a few exorisms that were very for real...they were not catholic...and you wouldn't believe me if I told you.....

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Choux asked on 09/14/05 - A Real Christian

Subject: We've Raised a Half-Million Dollars and Sent Over 50 Tons of Food and Water

Date: Wed 9-14-05 01:45 AM


Friends,

Last week I closed my New York production office and sent my staff down to New Orleans to set up our own relief effort. I asked all of you to help me by sending food, materials and cash to the emergency relief center we helped set up on the shores of Lake Pontchartrain with the Veterans for Peace. We did this when the government was doing nothing and the Red Cross was still trying to get it together. Every day, every minute was critical. People were dying, poor people, black people, left like so much trash in the street. I wanted to find a way to get aid in there immediately.

I hooked up with the Vietnam veterans and Iraqi war vets (Veterans for Peace) who were organizing a guerilla, grass-roots relief effort. They were the same group that had set up Cindy Sheehan's camp in Crawford and now they had moved Camp Casey to Louisiana.

I have good news and horrible news to report. First, your response to my appeal letter was overwhelming. Within a few days, a half-million dollars was sent in through my website to fund our relief effort. This money was immediately used to buy generators, food, water, a mobile medical van, tents, satellite phones, etc.

Others of you began shipping supplies to our encampment. People in communities all over the country started organizing truck caravans to us in Louisiana. Twenty-two trucks from southern California alone have already arrived. A semi-truck from Chicago delivered ten tons of food. A group of friends in New Jersey got two 24 foot trucks, got their community to load them up with goods, and arrived in Covington tonight. Fifteen iMacs are inbound from California. One man gave us his pick-up truck and another donated truck is en route from Houston.

Your response to my appeal has been nothing short of miraculous. And it has saved many, many lives.

A number of you decided to just get in your cars and drive to our camp to volunteer to help. We now have had 150 volunteers here doing the work that needs to be done. Last night they unloaded twenty tons of food from a tractor trailer in under two hours. Each day more volunteers arrive. Everyone is sleeping on the ground or in tents. It is a remarkable sight. Thank you, all of you, for responding. I will never forget this outpouring of generosity to those forgotten by our own government.

My staff and the vets spend their 18-hour days delivering food and water throughout the city of New Orleans and the surrounding areas. What they have seen is appalling. I have asked them to post their daily diaries on my website (www.michaelmoore.com) along with accompanying photos and video so you can learn what is really going on. What the media is showing you is NOT the whole story. It is much, much worse and there is still little being done to bring help to those who need it.

Our group has visited many outlying towns and villages in Mississippi and Louisiana, places the Red Cross and FEMA haven't visited in over a week. Often our volunteers are the first relief any of these people have seen. They have no food, water or electricity. People die every day. There are no TV cameras recording this. They have started to report the spin and PR put out by the White House, the happy news that often isn't true ("Everyone gets 2,000 dollars!").

The truth is that there are dead bodies everywhere and no one is picking them up. My crew reports that in most areas there is no FEMA presence, and very little Red Cross. It's been over two weeks since the hurricane and there is simply not much being done. At this point, would you call this situation incompetence or a purposeful refusal to get real help down there?

That's why we decided not to wait. And we are so grateful to all of you who have joined us. The Veterans for Peace and my staff aren't leaving (and that's why we are hoping those of you who can't get to Covington will make it to the Veterans for Peace co-sponsored anti-war demonstration in DC on September 24: www.unitedforpeace.org.)

If you want to help, here's what we need in Covington right now:

Cleaning Supplies (glass cleaner, bleach, disinfectant, etc.)
Aspirin and other basic over the counter drugs.
Bottled Water
Canned Goods
Hygiene Supplies
Baby Supplies - Baby Food Formula, diapers #4, #5, Wipes, Pedialyte
Sterile Gloves
Batteries - All kinds, from AA to watch and hearing aid batteries.
Volunteers with trucks and cars
Self contained kitchens with generators, utensils, workers

Consider sending supplies in reusable containers. List the contents on the outside of the package so the folks in the warehouse can easily sort the items.

Clothes are not needed. If you go, keep in mind that you MUST be self-sufficient. Bring a tent and a sleeping bag. People are driving to Covington from across the country and often have extra room in their cars for you or for an extra box of supplies. For more information, go to the Veterans for Peace message board: www.vfproadtrips.org/katrina/.

Send supplies via UPS to:
Veterans for Peace
Omni Storage

(Sorry, I guess I lost the rest of the address)

Michael Moore


Comments about his efforts helping hurricane victims??

sapphire630 answered on 09/15/05:

All he had to do was donate a few of his own meals.....sacrifice, sacrifice!

Just so he doesn't donate his brain to science we should be alright.

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Lazlow asked on 09/13/05 - What if ? ......................................

What if god didnt exist and aliens came down to gangbang Sarnian to death? That would be funny.
I couldnt stop laughing when I read his "What if?" post, it's ludacris, and that's coming from me. He's convinced there is no god, but aliens may land on earth/send signals or whatever and prove to everyone there is no god.
I guess if there is a question to this topic, it's this: Why do unbelievers come up w/ strange alternatives and questions to express their disbelief/idiocy like this?
Anyway, I gathered some funny quotes from that post, maybe you can all discern the humor in these so called "experts" intellect. You people need to stop accusing me of not being serious, because you need to take a look in the mirror.
Read the post and come back here

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"Let's say we receive radio signals from an alien source." -Sarnian

"With 5 Billion+ people on earth believing in a deity, some extra aliens believing in a diety won't change my rejection of any deities.
Supported scientific proof would." - Sarnian

"Come on! This is a serious question!" - Sarnian

"I think it would be great if there is "other life" in the universe. Maybe they could teach the politicians in Washington a thing or two. Yours truly as well." -HANK1

"Sounds logical. The universe is trying to get away from us as fast as possible so we don't go there and pollute the place." - drgrade

"Excellent question." -Erewhon

And if I can, I'll be the first to join the earth's welcoming committee for aliens. -Madima

------- And in a post of my own...
My idea of personal freedom is based on the Universal Declaration of Human Rights proclaimed by the General Assembly of the United Nations on the 10' of December 1948. -Sarnian

After copying the entire declaration from a cereal box we can easily tell Sarnian never passed grammar school,
"Are that enough "ideas"?
---you placed the question mark on the wrong side of the quotation mark also.

"I think deep down, the child in most of us cries out, "MY MOTHER THE TERRORIST!" -Sapphire630

Sarnian to Powderpuff
"If he is not under the influence of any drugs I question his mental sanity.
(and that is NOT because he says he likes you, although that on itself seems sick to me" - Sarnian continues, "posting such statements on a public board"

Sarnian, is there something you find sick about expressing love? Does it really make you sick?

sapphire630 answered on 09/15/05:

"Let's say we receive radio signals from an alien source." --->remember--->It's only an I Love Lucy repeat


"I think it would be great if there is "other life" in the universe. Maybe they could teach the politicians in Washington a thing or two. Yours truly as well."---> The politicans can't even hear us coomon people!

"Sounds logical. The universe is trying to get away from us as fast as possible so we don't go there and pollute the place."---> Of course!--->The universe knows something we don't!

And if I can, I'll be the first to join the earth's welcoming committee for aliens--->Tell Madima to go sit at the Mexican border then!

After copying the entire declaration from a cereal box----> Dearest Lazlow---> don't pick on cereal boxes!---> WHRE DOES ya thinks I gotz me edamucation---> xpecially spilling & gramar!

"I think deep down, the child in most of us cries out, "MY MOTHER THE TERRORIST!" -Sapphire630 ---> VERY, VERY PROFOUND

Sarnian to Powderpuff
"If he is not under the influence of any drugs I question his mental sanity.
(and that is NOT because he says he likes you, although that on itself seems sick to me" - Sarnian continues, "posting such statements on a public board"--->Is this some sorta insult to Powderpuff?

ludacris : ludicrous ? I think your ludacris spelling looks better anyway


Well this is what I know of aliens---> the
'good kind' (after all there are at least 7 varieties (ya must know). The good aliens come here from the future to save us from ourselves because we evolve into them, therefore they have to come back to save us or we can not evolve into them. Some people say they actually live inside the earth and fly their UFO's out of Area 51. Well it does leave me scratching my head wonderin' how in the world could they exist to come back to save us if we didn't survive to evolve into them in the first place. Therefore; I do not think they had to come back to save us after all!




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Lazlow asked on 09/11/05 - Liz the terrorist strikes again!!!

And on the anniversary of 911!
I'm calling you out! Stop terrorizing the board and ruining my precious name! These people love me! They believe in freedom and non-flipflopping and conviction against the evildoer!

---- Now she's probably going to hack into my account and change the post around.

-------- Anyway, what is your idea of freedom?-------
Yeah I know you're going to cuss me out for calling my mother a terrorist again, but she laughs about it when you're not around, trust me, she has a thing called sense of humor, you should all apply it. (especially Paraclete, pull that jolly rancher out of your ass). And don't call that foul language, the same very word is used in the bible at least 36 times. The only foul thing about it is that it's applied in the same sentence with the word Paraclete.

NOW ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!

sapphire630 answered on 09/12/05:

I think deep down, the child in most of us cries out, "MY MOTHER THE TERRORIST!" And she though loving us, secretly cries about the 'holy terror' she raised!

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curious98 asked on 09/11/05 - And some more on Katrina

Katrina effort mired in bureaucratic hash

Every day, instead of a decreasing criticism against the USA Federal Government on how the Katrina disaster has been handled, it seems to grow and become more angered.

An instance of what I’m saying can be seen in the following link:

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/us-fema0911,0,353161.story?coll=ny-top-headlines

Any comments?

Curious98

sapphire630 answered on 09/12/05:

The media is making a mess of it all....
Rose, (from the radio station (talk show) I listen to),organized & delivered to Gulf Port, Mississippi a caravan of semi's filled with stuff to donate to them. From what they said, Mississippi is in just as bad of shape, if not worse than New Orleans, but they are making progress bcause instead of sitting around crying, critizing and complaining they rolled up their sleeves and started working on their county.

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Choux asked on 09/12/05 - Favorite Activities

As a change of pace, what are your favorite things to do?? No qualifiers, go for yourself!

sapphire630 answered on 09/12/05:

Listening & learning all sides of EVERYTHING...right, left, rich, poor, black, white, & being politically incorrect!

listening to music, going to festivals, car cruises, & most summer activities, photography, computer art,

I love working
doing festivals, scrapping metal, clean-up demolition, clean-out evictions,
light construction, some auto body,

organizing & coordinating to help others.

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Lazlow asked on 09/11/05 - Anger Management and Love for Powderpuff

My apologies Lately I have found out that I have a anger problem a dilemma that I had when I figured out that I was in love with a member on this board, and I never wanted to share her with you intellectuals that is the only incentive I have on here besides working with the CIA is I am madly in love with Powderpuff? My Dear Powderpuff, with eyes that sparkle and such ruby red lips that I myself can only dream about . Please my little one, run away with me my beauty my love, this is Lazlow, and I am very rich I can care for you, I even own my own home---313 area code????? I will sing to you.
“You are so pretty oh so very pretty, I feel sorry for any girl whom is not you”
Now that I have this little problem, whom on here besides Hank can take my love away from me? This is Lazlow and I send all of you my love.
My momma taught me that I should love all of you, so I also want to say I am greatly remorseful for using fowl language, but I no longer want to share with you my powderpuff.

sapphire630 answered on 09/12/05:

ahh but Lazlow you need the eye shadow to go with the blush....and while your at it coordinate your pinks a little better!
....You luv shar fabulous just fabulously maruuulus!

Luv
the fab five

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excon asked on 09/12/05 - Milk Truck


Hello Christians:

To those of you, who would leave a corpse by the road as a "warning" to looters, and especially to Bobby, I offer the following story from the NY Times op-ed page:

"...Packed with hot and filthy evacuees (and crates of rapidly souring milk), the truck crossed a bridge from New Orleans to Jefferson Parish, where the desperate occupants were promptly and grotesquely humiliated by several heavily armed plainclothes officers.

There were dozens of men, women and children in the truck when it was stopped. They were hungry, thirsty and frightened. It should have been obvious to any sentient being that they were fleeing the flood. Nevertheless, said Nicole, they were ordered out of the truck at gunpoint, with their hands up. One young man was thrown to the ground. The others were ordered to get on the ground, face down.

The occupants of the milk truck were black, and they were in dire need of assistance. But in the midst of one of the greatest emergencies in the nation's history, the opportunity to gratuitously humiliate them proved irresistible.

"They laid us out on the ground," said JoAnn. Her voice quivered and tears began to leak down her face. "I was pleading. I was saying, 'Sir, please - - ' And then we all went to praying. Crying and praying.' "

"We were all praying," said Nicole, "because we were afraid, the way they were acting, that they would shoot us."

Eventually, the officers let the group go. No one was charged with any crime. "They even helped us start the milk truck," Nicole said. "The last thing they told us was, 'Y'all get on out of here. And don't come back.' "

The milk truck made its way west on Route 10, and the homeless, bedraggled occupants ultimately were directed to the Cajundome, where, according to JoAnn and Nicole, the officials and volunteers couldn't have been more gracious and helpful."

Comments?

excon

sapphire630 answered on 09/12/05:

I guess Choux never heard of the black guy that was dragged to his death by the white guys in a truck in the 90's or all the *mysterious* deaths (hangings) of blacks in Louisana and Mississippi jails. Many people think these things happened many decades ago. They do not realize they are happening now. I guess it takes people living in the real world to tell us we see and hear everything wrong when they don't even have a clue.

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tomder55 asked on 09/12/05 - Should the City of New Orleans be rebuilt ?

The city of New Orleans is not going to be rebuilt.

The tourist neighborhoods? The ancient parts from the French Quarter to the Garden District on that slim crescent of relatively high ground near the river? Yes, they will be restored. The airport and the convention center? Yes, those, too.

But the far larger swath -- the real New Orleans where the tourists don't go, the part that Katrina turned into a toxic soup bowl, its population of 400,000 scattered to the waves? Not so much.

When Republican House Speaker Dennis Hastert said that it makes no sense to spend billions of federal dollars to rebuild a city that's below sea level, he added, "It looks like a lot of that place could be bulldozed." In the face of criticism, he hurried to "clarify" his remarks. But according to Washington lore, such a flap occurs when someone inadvertently tells the truth. New Orleans has had a good run for 287 years, but even before Katrina hit, the city was on the wane, as its steadily dropping population figures for decades have shown.

All the brave rhetoric about the indomitable human spirit notwithstanding, we may want to consider some realities. As much as it causes heartache to those of us who love New Orleans -- the whole place, not just the one of myth and memory -- cities are not forever. Look at Babylon, Carthage, Pompeii. read the rest



The article makes a good argument why it shouldn't be rebuilt . I think it shouldn't, but it will anyway ;just like those barrier island communities of the rich are rebuilt when the sea reclaims them.Just as there is no logic in rebuilding homes on a sand bar ;there is also no logic in building cities on shifting delta soil .

Galveston Texas would have been huge had the 1900 Hurricane not hit. They saw that the risks of rebuilding Galveston to it's prior size didn't make any sense and it doesn't make sense now .

sapphire630 answered on 09/12/05:

I want to go to the Native American mardi gras and cajun country so it gotta be rebuilt and I am ready and willing to go in a few weeks as long as I get the gas money and my truck makes it!

I like Erewhons idea after all there are all those gambling boats so how 'bout a mardi gras boat.

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sarnian asked on 09/07/05 - The 4' of July to be held on the 5' of July? ......................

Although I understand that Christianity is more enlightened in Europe than in the US, we also have problems with fundamental Christians here.
All over Europe we have fixed dates on which we remember the dead from WWII.
Remembrance Day here is a solemn ceremony, with a walking tour of all participants from the townhall to a nearby monument, where speeches are made and a choir sings, and a silence of 2 minutes is held.

There are a couple of small "biblebelts" where fundamentals have grown into the biggest minority.
In the village where I live - and in several others - fundamentals now try to use their religious beliefs on the political scene - via the town council.

Although countrywide these ceremonies are held on the same date (already since 1945), the fundamentalists want to break with that in years when that date falls on a sunday.
They try to enforce on a local basis to hold the ceremony a day earlier or later.
Our micro political local world is in full commotion because most people want to keep to the usual date.
As a result the political climate has degenerated clearly, and positions have hardened.
I checked the records, but there is no historical mention of death having taken place only from monday to saturday, every sunday had it's share of the dead.
So why not remember also on a sunday than? Specially as the majority of people want to keep to the national date?

Imagine : the US 4' of July to be held on the 3' or the 5', just because the 4' falls on a sunday.
What you agree with that?

And remember, I'm talking of a solemn ceremony of half an hour max. !

sapphire630 answered on 09/08/05:

I guess they are trying to keep up with the U.S.A. by changing holidays.

Here we celebrate memorial day and some other holidays falling on a Sunday on Monday so we can get an extra day off work...YET we (some cities) DO often celebrate the 4th of July on the 3rd or 5th (when the 4th is on a weekend) to supposedly save some tax dollars.
So it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with Christianity

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revdauphinee asked on 09/07/05 - donations

folks if you donate to the red cross during this crisis do not do so on line many scam sites are appearing and the money is being diverted to Brazil somewhere if you can donate do it to your local red cross office and not by credit card on line .Thank you
Dorothy

sapphire630 answered on 09/08/05:

There are many local places that are driving down to donate necessities where I live. Radio stations, restuarants and so forth are having fund raisers and have tractor trailer companies volunteering to drive the stuff and people willing to help down there.

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HANK1 asked on 09/08/05 - JUST WONDERING ... AGAIN:



No complaint. Just wondering WHY a very few Experts keep telling me that I'm not answering their questions as denoted. Perhaps said questions are not specific enough to answer and/or there isn't a question in the first place. Some are too mundane to fool with. Many of my answers have my answer 'hidden' within the content. I have a reason for doing this: To make sure that the questioner knows what the hell I'm talking about. Example: I was just accused of hating homosexuals. Not true. I hate the sin. Not the homosexuals. QUIT PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH! Just think before commenting while taking a deep breath.

* No need to answer this. Just read it. Thanks.

HANK

sapphire630 answered on 09/08/05:

He did not use the word sin....Neither did he use the word homosexuals...so I believe you got his quote wrong as well.
He used the word homosexuality...BIG difference!

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HANK1
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I could care less what other people do as long as they don't do it in my yard or home. If this goes against God's word, so be it!
But I don't think so.
He hates homosexuality with a passion as I do.

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sarnian asked on 09/08/05 - The world is REALLY bigger than the US only!


Regularly I note - specially with posts from non-US people here - that replies refer to specific US situations, habbits, and / or laws.
This can be very confusing, and causes misunderstanding.

This board is about Christianity, and is for all humans whereever they live, as long as they like to participatewithin the board rules.
This is NOT the United States board or a board for United States citizens only.

Please keep that in mind in future replies !

sapphire630 answered on 09/08/05:

I have that problem with stating according to the U.S.A. or Pittsburgh, Pa. If anybody has a problem with that they can state where they are from and how their laws, customs, etc...are different and IF & how it even makes a difference to my point anyway. I can not keep track of laws and customs, etc... all over the world any better than I can mind read. So take it from there.

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powderpuff asked on 09/08/05 - News from the Astrodome

The scene is turning into drug addicts dreams come true. Not to mention a major windfall for dope dealers. My daughter called me very late last night from the Astrodome, and I just finished talking with her again this morning. The great majority of the 'evacuees' are taking their free money and going into the neighborhood surrounding the Astrodome and buying crack cocaine.

My daughter is home this morning to do some laundry and get gas, and buy some soft inserts for her shoes, then heading back to the dome. They originally thought they would be having 15 hour shifts 3 days on, 3 days off, but that wasn't enough. They need them EVERYDAY, no days off 12 hour shifts. She has blisters on her feet, but she isn't letting that stop her....

I am very upset to hear that the major majority of the 'victims' are squandering their handouts for crack. I hope they arrest all these people and use this opportunity to bust up a lot of the major crack dealers in the Houston area. This news makes me sick.
My daughter is risking her health to take care of a bunch of displaced drug addicts.

:(

sapphire630 answered on 09/08/05:

I heard the same thing someone from the Astrodome called in a national radio talk show host and said the sme thing.
Others have called in and said the Mayor wanted these people all out of New Orleans because the crime rate, especially murder, is astronomically unreal. They put them in jail but it is a revolving door where they are back out on the streets in no time doing the same thing again and again.
Now the mayor is rid of them and can rebuild
to cater to a rciher class of people.

The media plays right into it by only showing the Blacks and will not show the 'poor' whites as they loot.
I do not have a T.V. and have only seen a hand full of front page newspaper pictures and I can tell that is exactly what they are doing. I was starting to wonder where the impoverished white looters were; and then I heard a radio talk show host say the media WILL NOT show them.

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Lazlow asked on 09/07/05 - The End Is At Hand! New features on my Ipod

Wonderful creations and improvements in life have been created by man's curiousity and ingenuity, however, aside from curiosity, we have skepticism. Skeptics are hard at convincing there's a higher power, yet who are we to blame and attack them for it. Evolution, though a much more convincing proof of our origins, is merely used today as a theory school teachers use to express their skepticism towards god, who happens to be way more popular, though doesnt truly exist in a proofable manner. Sure, we believe as much as we can that such a thing is true and live by the rules he has decreed us to obey, but a christians only true way to convince an agnostic is by acting as a deterent, accosting the unbeliever with ties between the mythological predictions and a torturing view of today as apocalyptic, with this the questioner may discern these and fear for his safety when god's reservoir of wrath strikes him for being a skeptic of the almighty his entire life. I know this because it is my story, darwinist/agnostic at adolescense now a frightened adult.
The occurences happening of late are not coincidental when reading the bible. Now, the last thing I want to sound like is a street preacher warning pedestrians the end is near, but maybe we need more of them. Though evangelists are swine, modern day peoples should hear out the theory of armaggedon, not to believe in it but to examine their lifestyles and commit to some changes they ought to make. If people werent so goddamn obsessed with television and music, maybe Bush wouldn't get away with half the things he does. Perhaps we could turn off Who Wants To Marry A Bisexual Midget, put down our escapist literature and change ourselves, that is the answer, stop complaining that no one has an answer because I do.
If God doesnt exist, man's bona fied attempt to destroy himself does, and that's the best thing you can get out of the bible, words that will keep you from blowing shit up, though some people take it out of context and believe god wants us to blow things up, Mr. Bush, you sick fuck. The nazi's that voted for you ought to be gang banged and pissed in their throats. No Thought Police here yet, he's not so powerful, so don't be afraid to use the rights you have, instead of replying with a threat of reporting me, say something back, stop trying to take things away from people, it's why nobody likes you. Just ask some terrorists, they'll tell you.

sapphire630 answered on 09/08/05:

I KNEW there was about an intellectual side of you somewhere!

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paraclete asked on 09/06/05 - Interesting prophesy regarding New Orleans

John Mark Pool (http://www.wordtotheworldministries.org/)
The Prophetic & Rhema Word of the Lord for 2005 given Jan 2005.(an exert) Check site for full prophecy.

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.......major earthquakes and extreme flooding. Flooding was seen in the central and the Southern United States. I saw New Orleans literally 20 feet underwater across the main downtown area. At this time of flooding in New Orleans, I saw it as a sewer full of debris and every form of garbage floating around and swirling in the flood. The French Quarter will be wiped out in the flood. Bourbon Street will be abandoned. Alligators will be swimming where dens of iniquity once abounded.

Sin’s investors will let go of the territory. They reside in other areas and will be seeing this as a place of unstable investment for future plans of sin. God’s Kingdom investors will step in and be allowed to bid on properties abandoned by the sin investors. Then the superdome will be available to purchase for 1/10th of a cent on the dollar! This will one day be called the "Glory Dome" as a move of God will be based out of it and make it a "Healing and Restoration Center" grabbing worldwide attention. This Glory Dome will go on continually on a 24/7 basis. (ŝ The glory of this latter house shall be greater than of the former, saith the LORD of hosts: and in this place will I give peace, saith the LORD of hosts." Haggai 2:9 KJV.) .......


Lets see if the latter half come true, the superdome turned into a Church

sapphire630 answered on 09/07/05:

I keep telling people all the phropecy I hear and some I have of my own and people think I am nuts cause they don't keep track of what I am telling them. When I was a kid in the 70's everyone said California would be in the ocean someday. I have been telling my kids New Orleans will be in the Gulf and Florida will be entirely like the keys within the next few years...and before California makes it into the ocean...


I heard the gay group southern decadence was suppost to have their big whatever on bourbon street last week but they just had a parade because of the flooding.

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Lazlow asked on 09/06/05 - Powderpuff! I'm still in love with you!

I'm sorry I've neglected you for two years. I didnt mean it. Talk to me baby, we can work this out. Angry_Black_Guy misses you!
"Uh, hey gurl, whatchu doin? Yeh! G-U-NIT!(echoes)"
David Bowie wants to talk to you too, so whenever you get the chance drop me a line. My email is dorian_greay@yahoo.com
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And no, this was not intended to be a private message, I'm showing my love in front of everyone. I don't care.
Maybe me, you and Choux can get together. Laura's welcome too, I know she's got some fire in her pants. STONY said he has a digital camcorder and he'll film it.

sapphire630 answered on 09/07/05:

Is it a match made in heaven...
can I be the maid of honor???

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curious98 asked on 09/06/05 - A nice scoop!


How would you rate these statements from one to ten, according to Christian standards?

From Ryan Parry in New Orleans
BUNGLING Barbara Bush yesterday claimed poverty-stricken refugees who lost everything in Hurricane Katrina are actually better off thanks to the devastating floods.
The 80-year-old former first lady piled more pressure on her under fire son George's administration by declaring that the victims are so happy in their makeshift camps they would rather stay than go back to their impoverished communities.
Her gaffe came after a visit with husband George Snr to the Astrodome stadium in Houston, Texas, where thousands of evacuees from New Orleans and other affected areas are being housed.
Barbara chuckled as she said: "So many of the people here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this is working very well for them.”

Would you say that we should congratulate all these “poverty stricken” for their excellent luck and bless the Lord for sending the Katrina over N.O.?
Curious98

sapphire630 answered on 09/07/05:

I guess maybe she was thinking of all the television sets 'they stole' after all they don't have electricity to take them home and watch them there...sooo what else could she have been refering too!?

as curious or more so than you!

sapph

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excon asked on 09/01/05 - Looting or perhaps not


Hello Christians:

Lets say that you live in New Orleans. You and your family haven't eaten or drunken anything at all for two days. You're standing in front of a grocery store that's closed. You have money in your pocket, and you would pay for the food and water that you're taking.

So, are you eating to avoid starvation? Or are you nothing more than a crook?

excon

sapphire630 answered on 09/01/05:

I heard they were allowing people to take food, water and basic essentials. They figured the food would go to waste anyway. ....But then they started walking off with T.V.'s and breaking jewelry cases and taking hand fulls of jewelry and that is when they started cracking down on the looting. Now they are taking the people that should be looking for survivors to keep the looting from getting further out of control. I think this type of looters is the lowest form of human. You know they are the very ones that wouldn't think twice about stealing from their best friend or family.

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JesseJamesDupree asked on 08/28/05 - What's a Liberal to do?

I mean the last several years have been rough on them right? Right Wing Presidents, Right Wing Supreme Court Justices, A Right Wing U.N. Represenative, Republican Congress, Republican House. etc.etc.etc. My question is, if the Right Wingers are so evil, then why do they keep getting elected to office? Explain that to me Puhllleeeezzeeeeee, and I promise I'll give no smart aleck answers;)

sapphire630 answered on 08/29/05:

What's a Liberal to do?
?????

.....SSCCRREEAM like Howard Dean~!!!.....but don't go ranting like lunatic Cindy Shehan!

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QueenChoux asked on 08/24/05 - Free Speech?

The following is a cut and paste from Agape Press. Please don't go ballistic and name call me. Thanks.

"- A federal judge has told an Ohio school district it can no longer bar a middle school student from wearing a t-shirt with a Christian message.

Judge George Smith has ruled that Sheridan Middle School in Thornville violated the constitutional rights of student James Nixon by prohibiting him from wearing a t-shirt bearing a quote from the Bible verse John 14:6. The front of the shirt reads: "Jesus said, 'I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life.'" The back of the shirt contains the statements: "Homosexuality is sin. Islam is a lie. Abortion is murder."

My question about this article is:

Do you think middle school is the place for expressing religious views?

Do children have the same rights as adults; they don't have the same responsibilities?

Comments welcome....

Although no complaints were filed over Nixon's t-shirt, a few school officials -- described by the student's attorney as "overzealous" -- deemed its message may be "offensive" to some individuals and "potentially disruptive," and thus could not be displayed.

sapphire630 answered on 08/29/05:

Like Dgrade said it works both ways...obscenity on T shirts is acceptable even though it can be offensive to me.
I am not for school uniforms, but I would be for a strict dress code of what not to wear to school....like pants not hanging below the butts and no print, decals, or other pictures on T shirts.

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QueenChoux asked on 08/22/05 - Robertson calls for Assassination 8-22-05

The following is quoted from Pat Robertson.

ROBERTSON: "There was a popular coup that overthrew him [Chavez]. And what did the United States State Department do about it? Virtually nothing. And as a result, within about 48 hours that coup was broken; Chavez was back in power, but we had a chance to move in. He has destroyed the Venezuelan economy, and he's going to make that a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent.

You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war. And I don't think any oil shipments will stop. But this man is a terrific danger and the United ... This is in our sphere of influence, so we can't let this happen. We have the Monroe Doctrine, we have other doctrines that we have announced. And without question, this is a dangerous enemy to our south, controlling a huge pool of oil, that could hurt us very badly. We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with."

What is he thinking???

Comments???

sapphire630 answered on 08/29/05:

While I understand the basic concept of what he tries to say; he says things in a way to make himself look stupid. This is about at least his 3rd comment I have heard that he has said in an over kill way.
I believe what he meant is like someone having to protect their family by killing the intruder before he can kill your family. George Soros made the same comment a few years ago about Bin Laden or Saddam (I forget which one).
...And like Tomder said if Hitler had been dealt with ahead of time look at all the Jews who wouldn't have been killed.

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ATON2 asked on 08/26/05 - Is it a tenet of the faith that it is o.k to make Christianity look ridiculous?????

There seems to be an opinon among a few of our Christian brothers and sisters that, so long as a 'story' has a Christian theme, it should be praised to the sky...even though it makes Jesus look like a mental defective, God an addlepated absent-minded professor, and Christianity a religion of the superstitious and Gullible.
Men who have experience in writing and editing, who would reject this Sunday School pap outright if it were presented for publication...coo over it as if it were a new chapter added to the Bible.
Would a silly feel-good story from an Atheist be accepted with the same sort of eqanimity or does a reference to Jesus do the trick, even if that Jesus is compared to a shovel??????? Seriously??????
How do Christians REALLY think their religion should be presented on a public forum????? And do you really think Sunday School pap, illogical, almost unreadable, will attract anyone to Christianity????? Yes, you atheists, Muslims, Jews and agnostics can answer also...Answers will be rated for content...an attack gains a black star...no ifs, ands, or buts.

sapphire630 answered on 08/29/05:

oh dear, Aton, watch out!!! when I criticize warm fuzzy christians wanting warm fuzzy sermons I get critisized for being judgmental---even though the Bible has a verse against people that want their ears ticked---meaning they want to be told everything is warm and fuzzy when it AIN'T!

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STONY asked on 08/29/05 - DOROTHY , BUTTON DOWN THE HATCHES...

IF YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN OUT OF THE WAY OF THE STORM ALREADY. YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO GET HAMMERED PRETTY
GOOD FROM KATRINA.

sapphire630 answered on 08/29/05:

Wish I was there I love the hurricane weather and ready and waiting for the eye of the storm!

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kindj asked on 08/29/05 - How's this grab ya?

Note: I did not write anything that follows this sentence, but I wish I did.

DK

I Renounce Christianity
Bob Kilpatrick


I renounce Christianity. I want everyone to know. I am no longer a subscriber to Christianity. If I ever was, I deeply regret it and hope to turn my back on it now forever. Having been raised to faithfully attend church as a child, it was not a difficult choice to continue doing so as an adult. Many people I know do just the same, while others leave it for awhile but return because this is what they were taught. How many of them are willing to renounce Christianity like I have done, I do not know.

I embrace Jesus Christ, the person of God. I am His follower, His disciple, His servant. I will do anything He asks of me. If, to stand with Him, I have to stand against the culture that surrounds me, I will. I believe Him more than I believe anyone else. I value His approval more than anyone elses. I will gladly forsake all, including the prevailing American Christian philosophies, if to hold them would take me away from Jesus even an inch. I do not believe that everything the church does is sanctioned in heaven. I do not believe that all our church practises are necessary, or even beneficial, to faith in Jesus Christ. I do not believe that the gathering of the saints is more important than the personal, individual meeting between God and man. I am seeking others like me for prayer and fellowship.

The idea of renouncing Christianity is not new to me. Leonard Sweet suggests it in his book Soul Tsunami. Others have raised similar thoughts throughout history. Paul devoted an entire book, Galatians, to the struggle between law and grace, or religious codes and divine relationship. It is not merely a semantic issue- people will think I am splitting hairs- nor am I overstating the case merely to startle, attract attention or to make a point. I mean it. I embrace the Christian moral code only because Jesus gave it to me. Apart from Him, I have no use for it. I love the Holy Bible because it is a true record of the God who calls me to Himself. Apart from Him, I have no use for it. Survivor Rudy said that the only use for a Bible in a situation like theirs was as extra toilet paper. I understand. He doesn't know the Person of the book. Without the Person, the book is meaningless. It is just so much ink and paper inside a nice leather binding with gilt edges. I love the Church because Jesus calls us to gather around Him. Apart from Him, church is meaningless. Worse than that, it is fakery.

I have met ministers who don't believe anymore. Some have admitted it to themselves, others have not. But in every case their lives showed what they believed. Their convictions were expressed through their habits. I meet church-going people all the time who have no relationship with Jesus. They are not bound to God because, like Peter, they have no where else to go "for You have the words of eternal life." They love the practises of the church, perhaps because it reminds them of good times in their past, perhaps because they love a mystery, or perhaps because these are the only people who will welcome them. Whatever the reason, they know His Church but don't know Him. Some of them admit it, some deny it, some don't even know there's anything more. In every case, their convictions are expressed through their habits.

I am daily faced with the choice of loving the image- the paragraph and the photograph- more than loving the Person. I hear so many times of a wife or husband looking up after years of marriage and realizing that they don't even know their mate anymore. Why does it happen? I think it's because they stop pay attention. They get an image of the one they married and they stick with it. All the while, their mate is changing, and they don't notice it because they stopped loving the person, even seeing the person, and held instead to the image. It can happen to us with God. We decide to forgo the face to face meeting with Jesus once, twice, thrice. A week passes and we still feel pretty good about ourselves. We don't notice that our oil is running low, that our muscles are getting weak- we don't notice that we're not noticing anymore. Life just goes on and we do what we did last week and it seems to work again this week, and we do it agin the week after, and weeks become months and months become years and one day we look up and see that we've been not noticing. We've had the form of godliness but God has not been there. Like a sculpture of God, it looks like Him but it has no power.

Sometimes throughout those years of not noticing we invent things about God that we want to be so. When we finally notice Him again, we find out that some of what we believed was not true of Him. We made it up. Then comes the choice. Will we continue with the image or will we embrace the real?

I am going away. I am going away to be alone with Jesus. If I don't do this regularly, I forget what He looks like. I forget how He acts. When I hear His voice again, I remember how much I've missed it. I renounce Christianity because I desperately want Christ.

sapphire630 answered on 08/29/05:

That is where I have been.

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sarnian asked on 08/06/05 - For Bucker : Two peas in a pod (revisited)


Two Peas in a Pod

There were once two little peas in a pod.
One was still white, the other was not.
Peas can not think, can not talk, can not ask,
and surely no peas had ever a task.
And so it came that either one of the lot
knew what was happened outside of their pod.

Then it came time to harvest the peas.
and chose the ones that were good for seeds.
The farmer opened the pod and said :"Heck,
look here, one white seed, the other is black.
That's strange, never seen, and boy I rather
doubt if both of them share the same father!"

sarnian2005

Now, that surely calls up questions ! :)





sapphire630 answered on 08/08/05:

I know nothing about peas cause I am a mushroom....kept in the dark and fed sh*t!

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Laura asked on 08/07/05 - Favor

Could everybody please sign up as an expert in travel and tourism so that I may ask a question about plans for future travel? There are like 40 something unanswered questions there so posting another one would be kinda dumb without someone to answer.. I need advice about where to go for a once in a lifetime 14 day vacation that we are planning for next year around October. Will never be able to afford it again so this has to be "The place" for unforgettable memories..

sapphire630 answered on 08/08/05:

For colder climates I hbear Montana and Alaska are prettier than Hawaii. (BUT I think winter is the 6 months of dark in Alaska)
The carribean is suppost to be prettier than Hawaii too. My boss has gone to a few places there and keeps going back to Punta Cuna. Portegal is suppost to be really a neat place too.
I have no idea...I haven't been many places cause I can't afford it. I am planning to drive to Arizona and back for a winter vacation if I can afford it. I would like to go for more than a drive, but don't know anybody other than a couple girl friends in Texas.

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STONY asked on 08/06/05 - HEY ANSWERWAY, YOU SCREWED UP!!

HAVE YOU NOTICED IN YOUR NEW DESIGN THAT THERE IS NO WAY TO SIGN OUT OF THE WEBSITE? THAT MEANS ANYONE WHO STUMBLES ON THIS SITE AFTER I LEAVE WILL HAVE ACCESS THRU MY NAME AND ACC'T. I WILL RESTART THE COMPUTER BEFORE I LEAVE AND HOPE NO ONE ELSE FINDS THE DOOR LEFT OPEN.

sapphire630 answered on 08/06/05:

I don't have to worry....NOBODY WOULD WANT MY Identity.

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bucker asked on 08/06/05 - prejudices

be honest now. Have any of you ever felt prejudiced against anyone at anytime. Being three different kinds of Indian, Irish, and English. There may be more, I don't know. I Never the less, I have felt prejudice toward others. I do not like this, and I refuse to do it now. This was many years ago. That was before I learned that we are all God's chilfren.

sapphire630 answered on 08/06/05:

I really don't have any racial prejudices.

The problem I have with people is ones who live like the world revolves around them and they can't relate to anything beyond them.

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ATON2 asked on 07/29/05 - Is ATON a Muslim????

No. ATON is not now, nor has he ever been a Muslim.
Does ATON defend Muslims??? Yes when they are attacked by rabble rousers. Why? Because he has Muslim relations and he KNOWS the postings on this board to not reflect TRUE Islam.

Is ATON a MORMON. No. ATON is not NOW nor has he ever been a MORMON.
Does ATON defend MORMONS....YES, when they are attacked by rabble rousers. Why?? Because he has MORMON nieces and nephews who are among the finest CHRISTIANS he has ever known.

Is ATON an apostate from Jehovah's Witnesses. NO. ATON has NEVER been a Jehovah's Witness. Does ATON defend J.W.s ONLY when they are right :) Why?? Because they are often wrong :) :) :)

Getting the idea, folks????

I have defended Catholics against the depredations of Tom777 and our own anti-Catholic rabble rousers. Why?? You guessed it...I have Catholic nieces and nephews and cousins.

I have defended Judaism against our resident Anti-Semites...Yeah, you guessed it, again..I have Jewish In-laws.

Does ATON attack Christians...NO...only the pseudo-Christians who have distorted the teachings of Jesus and preached an elitist, country club Heaven which bears a sign "NO JEWS, MUSLIMS, BUDDHISTS, HINDUS or Dogs allowed".

Does ATON NOT have Christian relatives???? More than I can count...including an ordained minister, and a born again nephew who, the moment he accepted Jesus turned from a fun-loving teen ager to the sourest individual I have ever known.

EN FIN: Contrary to a recent, hysterical posting...As I have repeated over and over again... I do not consider the Scriptures of ANY organized religion to be the inspired, inerrant word of God..I am not a member of ANY organized religion..Any one who tries to pigeon-hole me as an adherent of ANY organized religious group is lying....or doing a bit of wishfull thinking.

Are Christians permitted to lie in defense of their beliefs????????? I know about Eusebius...but he was a product of his times.

sapphire630 answered on 08/04/05:

I think the problem is too many people confuse, or associate, Muslim with terrorist and they are NOT one in the same. Too many people just get too freaked out to where they can't think straight and then let their half-baked reasoning get the better of them and they run with it and end up with somthing similiar to hoof in mouth dis-ease!

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paraclete asked on 07/29/05 - Just to help Aton out

Aton want's to disprove Jesus is the messiah.

here is a list of fillfulled prophecies that aton can start disproving
The Pre-Existence of the Messiah

Subject Prophecy Fulfillment
The Messiah would be eternal. Psalm 102:25-27a Colossians 1:17
The Messiah would be from everlasting. Proverbs 8:22-23 John 17:5
The Messiah would be from everlasting (the "Everlasting Father"). Isaiah 9:6e Revelation 1:8
The Messiah would be from everlasting. Isaiah 48:16a John 1:1-2
The Messiah would be from everlasting. Micah 5:2c John 8:58

The Messiah Would be God Incarnate

Subject Prophecy Fulfillment
The Messiah would be the creator of all. Psalm 102:25-27b John 1:3
The Messiah would be Lord. Psalm 110:1a Matthew 22:41-45
The Messiah would be holy. Daniel 9:24b Luke 1:35
The Messiah would be God. Psalm 45:6-7b Hebrews 1:8-9
The Messiah would be God. Isaiah 7:14c John 12:45
The Messiah would be God. Isaiah 40:3c John 10:30
The Messiah would be God. Jeremiah 23:5-6b John 13:13
The Messiah would be both God and man. Jeremiah 23:5-6c" 1 Timothy 3:16
The Messiah would be both God and man (the "Mighty God"). Isaiah 9:6d John 10:30
The Messiah would be God Zechariah 11:10-11b John 14:7
The Messiah would be God Zechariah 11:12-13d John 12:45
The Messiah would be both God and man. Zechariah 12:10b John 10:30
The Messiah would be both God and man Zechariah 13:7c John 14:9

The Messiah Would be the Son of God

Subject Prophecy Fulfillment
God would have a Son. Proverbs 30:4b Matthew 3:16-17
The Messiah would be the Son of God. Psalm 2:7a Luke 1:31-35
The Messiah would be the Son of God. Psalm 2:12a Matthew 17:5
The Messiah would be the Son of God. 2 Samuel 7:13-14 Matthew 3:16-17
The Messiah would be the Son of God. 1 Chronicles 17:13-14 John 12:28-30
The Messiah would be the Son of God. Isaiah 9:6b Luke 1:35
The Messiah would call God his Father. Psalm 89:26 Matthew 11:27

The Time of the Messiah's Coming

Subject Prophecy Fulfillment
The Jew's authority to administer capital punishment would be gone when the Messiah arrived. Genesis 49:10c John 18:31
The Messiah would be announced to his people 483 years, to the exact day, after the decree to rebuild the city of Jerusalem. Daniel 9:25 John 12:12-13
The Messiah would be killed before the destruction of the temple. Daniel 9:26c Matthew 27:50-51

The Genealogy of the Messiah

Subject Prophecy Fulfillment
The Messiah would be a descendant of Shem. Genesis 9:26 Luke 3:23-36
The Messiah would be a descendant of Abraham. Genesis 12:3 Matthew 1:1
The Messiah would be a descendant of Abraham. Genesis 18:17-18a Matthew 1:1
The Messiah would be a descendant of Abraham. Genesis 22:18a Galations 3:16
The Messiah would be a descendant of Isaac. Genesis 17:19 Luke 3:23-34
The Messiah would be a descendant of Isaac. Genesis 21:12 Luke 3:23-34
The Messiah would be a descendant of Isaac. Genesis 26:4 Luke 3:23-34
The Messiah would be a descendant of Jacob. Genesis 28:14a Luke 3:23-34
The Messiah would be a descendant of Judah. Genesis 49:10a Luke 3:23-33
The Messiah would be a descendant of Judah. 1 Chronicles 5:2 Luke 3:23-33
The Messiah would be a descendant of Boaz & Ruth. Ruth 4:12-17 Luke 3:23-32
The Messiah would be a descendant of Jesse. Isaiah 11:1a Luke 3:23-32
The Messiah would be a descendant of Jesse. Isaiah 11:10a Luke 3:23-32
The Messiah would be a descendant of David. 2 Samuel 7:12-13 Matthew 1:1
The Messiah would be a descendant of David. 2 Samuel 7:16 Matthew 1:1
The Messiah would be a descendant of David. 1 Chronicles 17:11-12a Luke 3:23-31
The Messiah would be a descendant of David. Psalm 89:3-4 Matthew 1:1
The Messiah would be a descendant of David. Psalm 89:29 Matthew 1:1
The Messiah would be a descendant of David. Psalm 89:35-36 Matthew 1:1
The Messiah would be a descendant of David. Psalm 132:11 Matthew 1:1
The Messiah would be a descendant of David. Psalm 132:17 Matthew 1:1
The Messiah would be a descendant of David. Isaiah 7:13-14 Matthew 1:1
The Messiah would be a descendant of David. Isaiah 9:7 Matthew 1:1
The Messiah would be a descendant of David. Jeremiah 23:5-6a Luke 3:23-31
The Messiah would be a descendant of David. Jeremiah 33:14-15 Luke 3:23-31
The Messiah would be a descendant of David. Ezekiel 17:22-24 Luke 3:23-31
The Messiah would be a descendant of David. Ezekiel 34:23-24 Matthew 1:1
The Messiah would be a descendant of Zerubbabel. Haggai 2:23 Luke 3:23-27

The Birth & Childhood of the Messiah

Subject Prophecy Fulfillment
The Messiah would be born of the "seed" of a woman. Genesis 3:15a Luke 1:34-35
The Messiah would be born of a virgin. Isaiah 7:14a Luke 1:34-35
The Messiah would be born of a virgin. Jeremiah 31:22 Matthew 1:18-20
The Messiah would be Immanuel, "God with us." Isaiah 7:14b Matthew 1:21-23
The Messiah would be called by his name before he was born. Isaiah 49:1c Luke 1:30-31
The Messiah would be born in Bethlehem. Micah 5:2a Matthew 2:1-2
The birth of the Messiah. Isaiah 9:6a Luke 2:11
The Messiah would be protected by God. Isaiah 49:2b Matthew 2:13-15
The Messiah would grow up in a poor family. Isaiah 11:1b Luke 2:7
The Messiah would grow up in a poor family. Isaiah 53:2a Luke 2:7
The Messiah would be aware of his Father from his youth. Psalm 22:9 Luke 2:40

The Forerunner of the Messiah

Subject Prophecy Fulfillment
The forerunner of the Messiah would live in the wilderness. Isaiah 40:3a Matthew 3:1-4
The forerunner would prepare people for the coming of the Messiah. Isaiah 40:3b Luke 1:17
A messenger would prepare the way for the Messiah. Malachi 3:1a Matthew 11:10
The Messiah's forerunner would come in the spirit of Elijah. Malachi 4:5 Matthew 3:1-2
The Messiah's forerunner would turn many to righteousness. Malachi 4:6 Luke 1:16-17

The Attributes of the Messiah

Subject Prophecy Fulfillment
The Messiah would be a Prophet. Deuteronomy 18:15-19a John 6:14
The Messiah would be a Priest in the order of Melchisedec. Psalm 110:4 Hebrews 6:17-20
The Messiah would be Priest and King. Zechariah 6:12-13 Hebrews 8:1
The Messiah would be a King. Genesis 49:10b John 1:49
The Messiah would be a King. Numbers 24:17 John 19:19
The Messiah would be a King. Psalm 2:6 John 12:12-13
The Messiah would be the "Wonderful Counselor." Isaiah 9:6c John 7:46
The Messiah would be the "Prince of Peace." Isaiah 9:6f Colossians 1:20
The Messiah would be the subject of angels' worship. Deuteronomy 32:43 Luke 2:13-14
The Messiah would be a witness. Isaiah 55:4 John 18:37
The Messiah would be as a shepherd. Isaiah 40:11 John 10:11
The Messiah would speak in parables. Psalm 78:2 Matthew 13:34-35
The Messiah would speak in parables. Isaiah 6:9-10b Matthew 13:13-15
The Messiah would speak with a message of grace. Psalm 45:2 Luke 4:22
The Messiah's words would be as a sharp sword. Isaiah 49:2a Revelation 2:12-16
The Messiah would speak with words of authority given to Him from God. Deuteronomy 18:15-19b John 12:48-50
The Messiah would minister in Galilee. Isaiah 9:1-2a Matthew 4:12-17
The Messiah would have the full Spirit of God upon him. Isaiah 11:2a Matthew 3:16-17
The Messiah would have the Spirit of God upon him. Isaiah 42:1b Matthew 3:16-17
The Messiah would have the Spirit of God upon him. Isaiah 61:1-2a Matthew 3:16-17
The Messiah would have the Spirit of Wisdom. Isaiah 11:2b Luke 2:40
The Messiah would have the Spirit of Understanding. Isaiah 11:2c Luke 2:40
The Messiah would have the Spirit of Counsel. Isaiah 11:2d Matthew 7:28-29
The Messiah would have the Spirit of Might. Isaiah 11:2e Matthew 8:27
The Messiah would have the Spirit of the Knowledge of God. Isaiah 11:2f John 7:29
The Messiah would have the Spirit of the Fear of God. Isaiah 11:2g Hebrews 5:7
The Messiah would have a quick understanding in the fear of the Lord. Isaiah 11:3a Luke 2:46-47
The Messiah would place his trust in God. Isaiah 50:8-10 John 11:7-10
The Messiah would be just. Zechariah 9:9c John 5:30
The Messiah would not judge on the basis of external representations. Isaiah 11:3b John 7:24
The Messiah would judge the poor with righteousness. Isaiah 11:4 Mark 12:41-44
The Messiah would have compassion for the poor and needy. Isaiah 42:3 Matthew 11:4-5
The Messiah would act with righteousness. Psalm 45:6-7c John 5:30
The Messiah would be responsible for the judgement of mankind. Isaiah 49:2c John 5:22-29
The Messiah would not draw attention to himself. Isaiah 42:2 Matthew 12:15-21
The Messiah would be humble. Zechariah 9:9e Matthew 11:29
The Messiah would have the appearance of an ordinary man. Isaiah 53:2b Philippians 2:7-8
The Messiah would be the cornerstone. Isaiah 28:16 1 Peter 2:4-6
The Messiah would be the cornerstone. Zechariah 10:4 Ephesians 2:20
The Messiah would be the "Rock." 2 Samuel 23:2-4a 1 Corinthians 10:4
The Messiah would be as the "light of the morning." 2 Samuel 23:2-4b Revelation 22:16
The Messiah would say the scriptures were written of him. Psalm 40:6-8b Luke 24:44
The Messiah would give gifts to men. Psalm 68:18b Matthew 10:1
The Messiah would have the key of David. Isaiah 22:22 Revelation 3:7

Events During the Messiah's Ministry

Subject Prophecy Fulfillment
The Messiah would preach the good news. Isaiah 61:1-2b Luke 4:17-21
The Messiah would declare that he was the Son of God. Psalm 2:7b John 9:35-37
Infants would give praise to the Messiah. Psalm 8:2 Matthew 21:15-16
The Messiah would be be greeted with rejoicing in Jerusalem. Zechariah 9:9a Matthew 21:8-10
The Messiah would be beheld as King. Zechariah 9:9b John 12:12-13
The Messiah would be presented to Jerusalem riding on a donkey. Zechariah 9:9f Matthew 21:6-9
The Messiah would visit the second Temple. Haggai 2:6-9 Luke 2:27-32
The Messiah would make a sudden appearance at the temple. Malachi 3:1b Mark 11:15-16
The Messiah would be angered by disrespect toward the temple. Psalm 69:9a John 2:13-17
The Messiah would be ministered to by God. Isaiah 42:6b John 8:29
The Messiah would ask God for His inheritance. Psalm 2:8a John 17:4-24

The Messiah Would Perform Miracles

Subject Prophecy Fulfillment
The Messiah would heal the blind. Isaiah 35:5a Mark 10:51-52
The Messiah would heal the deaf. Isaiah 35:5b Mark 7:32-35
The Messiah would heal the lame. Isaiah 35:6a Matthew 12:10-13
The Messiah would heal the dumb. Isaiah 35:6b Matthew 9:32-33
The Messiah would heal the blind. Isaiah 42:7 Matthew 9:27-30
The Messiah would have a healing ministry. Isaiah 53:4a Luke 6:17-19

The Messiah Would Come to do God's Will

Subject Prophecy Fulfillment
The Messiah would be called to God's service from the womb. Psalm 22:10 Luke 1:30-33
The Messiah would be called to God's service from the womb. Isaiah 49:1b Matthew 1:20-21
The Messiah would be sent by God. Isaiah 48:16b John 7:29
The Messiah would come to do God's will. Psalm 40:7-8 John 5:30
The Messiah would please God. Isaiah 42:1c Matthew 3:16-17
The Messiah's work would glorify God. Isaiah 49:3b Matthew 15:30-31
The Messiah would not conceal his mission from the congregation. Psalm 40:9-10 Luke 4:16-21
The Messiah would not be rebellious to God's will. Isaiah 50:5 John 12:27
The Messiah would steadfastly set his face toward his mission. Isaiah 50:7 Luke 9:51-53
The Messiah would be God's servant. Isaiah 42:1a John 4:34
The Messiah would be God's servant. Isaiah 49:3a John 17:4
The Messiah would be God's servant. Isaiah 49:5 John 6:38
The Messiah would be God's servant. Isaiah 49:6a John 12:49-50
The Messiah would be God's servant. Isaiah 52:13a John 9:4
The Messiah would be God's servant. Isaiah 53:11b Romans 5:18-19
The Messiah would be God's servant. Micah 5:2b John 15:10
The Messiah would be God's servant. Zechariah 3:8 John 17:4
The Messiah would bear reproach, for God's sake. Psalm 69:7 Matthew 26:65-67
The Messiah would bear reproach, for God's sake. Psalm 69:9b Romans 15:3
It was God's will that the Messiah would be the sin-bearer for all mankind. Isaiah 53:6b 1 John 4:10
It was God's will that the Messiah would die for all mankind. Isaiah 53:10a John 18:11
It was God's will that the Messiah would die for all mankind. Zechariah 13:7a John 18:11
God would be fully satisfied with the suffering of the Messiah. Isaiah 53:11a John 12:27
The Messiah would receive guidance from God. Isaiah 42:6a John 5:19-20
The Messiah would speak with knowledge given to him from God. Isaiah 50:4 John 12:49
The Messiah would come in the name of the Lord. Psalm 118:26 Matthew 21:9

The Messiah Would Come for All People

Subject Prophecy Fulfillment
The Messiah would come for all nations. Genesis 18:17-18b Acts 3:24-26
The Messiah would come for all nations. Genesis 22:18b Galatians 3:14
The Messiah would come for all people. Genesis 28:14b Galatians 3:26-29
The Messiah would come for all people. 2 Samuel 22:50 Romans 15:8-9
The Messiah would come for all people. Psalm 18:49 Ephesians 3:4-6
The Messiah would come for all people. Isaiah 11:10b Acts 13:47-48
The Messiah would come for all people. Isaiah 49:1a 1 Timothy 2:4-6
The Messiah would be a light to the Gentiles. Isaiah 9:1-2b Luke 2:28-32
The Messiah would be a light to the Gentiles. Isaiah 42:6d John 8:12
The Messiah would be a light to the Gentiles. Isaiah 49:6b Acts 13:47-48
The Messiah would provide "justice" to the Gentiles. Isaiah 42:1d Matthew 24:14

The Messiah Would Come to Provide Salvation

Subject Prophecy Fulfillment
The Messiah would be the messenger of the new covenant. Malachi 3:1c Luke 4:43
The Messiah would be the new covenant. Isaiah 42:6c Matthew 26:28
The Messiah would be the new covenant. Jeremiah 31:31 Matthew 26:28
The Messiah would come to make an end to sins. Daniel 9:24a Galations 1:3-5
The Messiah would provide freedom from the bondage of sin and death. Isaiah 61:1-2c John 8:31-32
The Messiah would proclaim a period of grace. Isaiah 61:1-2d John 5:24
The Messiah would die for the sins of the world. Isaiah 53:8d 1 John 2:2
The Messiah would die for the sins of the world. Daniel 9:26b Hebrews 2:9
The Messiah would give up his life to save mankind. Isaiah 53:12b Luke 23:46
The Messiah would be as a sacrificial lamb. Isaiah 53:7c John 1:29
The Messiah would be an offering for sin. Isaiah 53:10b Matthew 20:28
The Messiah's offering of himself would replace all sacrifices. Psalm 40:6-8a Hebrews 10:10-13
The Messiahís blood would be shed to make atonement for all. Isaiah 52:15 Revelation 1:5
The Messiah would be the sin-bearer for all mankind. Isaiah 53:6a Galatians 1:4
The Messiah would be the sin-bearer for all mankind. Isaiah 53:11d Hebrews 9:28
The Messiah would be the sin-bearer for all mankind. Isaiah 53:12d 2 Corinthians 5:21
The Messiah would bear and carry upon himself the sins of the world. Isaiah 53:4b 1 Peter 2:24
The Messiah would bear the penalty for mankind's transgressions. Isaiah 53:5a Luke 23:33
The Messiah's sacrifice would provide peace between man and God. Isaiah 53:5b Colossians 1:20
The Messiah would justify man before God. Isaiah 53:11c Romans 5:8-9
The Messiah would be the intercessor between man and God. Isaiah 59:15-16b Matthew 10:32-33
The Messiah would intercede to God in behalf of mankind. Isaiah 53:12e Luke 23:34
The Messiah's atonement would enable believers to be his brethren. Psalm 22:22 Hebrews 2:10-12
The Messiah would come to provide salvation. Isaiah 59:15-16a John 6:40
The Messiah would bring salvation. Zechariah 9:9d Luke 19:10
The Messiah would have a ministry to the "poor," the believing remnant. Zechariah 11:7 Matthew 9:35-36
The Messiah would offer salvation to all mankind. Joel 2:32 Romans 10:12-13
The Messiah would come to bring Israel back to God. Isaiah 49:5b Matthew 15:24
The Messiah would come to Zion as their Redeemer. Isaiah 59:20 Luke 2:38
Those who refused to listen to the Messiah would be judged. Deuteronomy 18:15-19c John 12:48-50
The Messiah would reject those who did not believe in him. Psalm 2:12b John 3:36

The Messiah Would be Betrayed

Subject Prophecy Fulfillment
The Messiah's betrayer would be a friend whom he broke bread with. Psalm 41:9 Mark 14:17-18
The Messiah would be betrayed for thirty pieces of silver. Zechariah 11:12-13a Mathew 26:14-15
Thirty pieces of silver would be thrown into the house of the Lord. Zechariah 11:12-13c Matthew 27:3-5
The potter's field would be uninhabited. Psalm 69:25 Acts 1:16-20
The Messiah's betrayer would have a short life. Psalm 109:8a Acts 1:16-18
The Messiah's betrayer would be replaced. Psalm 109:8b Acts 1:20-26

The Messiah Would be Abandoned

Subject Prophecy Fulfillment
The Messiah would be abandoned by the disciples. Psalm 22:11 Mark 14:50
The Messiah's disciples would fail him in his time of need. Psalm 69:20b Mark 14:33-41
Men would hide from being associated with the Messiah. Isaiah 53:3d Mark 14:50-52

The Messiah Would be Despised

Subject Prophecy Fulfillment
The Messiah would be despised. Isaiah 49:7 John 10:20
The Messiah would be despised. Zechariah 11:8b Matthew 27:20
The Messiah would be despised. Isaiah 53:3a Luke 4:28-29
The Messiah would be hated by many without cause. Psalm 69:4 Luke 23:13-22
Political and religious leaders would conspire against the Messiah. Psalm 2:2 Matthew 26:3-4
The Messiah would be despised. Psalm 22:6 Luke 23:21-23

The Messiah Would be Judged

Subject Prophecy Fulfillment
The Messiah would be accused by false witnesses. Psalm 109:2 John 18:29-30
The Messiah would be judged. Isaiah 53:8b John 18:13-22
The Messiah would be silent before his accusers. Isaiah 53:7b Matthew 27:12-14
The Messiah would be innocent and had done no violence. Isaiah 53:9b Mark 15:3
The Messiah would have no deceit in his mouth. Isaiah 53:9c John 18:38

The Messiah Would be Rejected

Subject Prophecy Fulfillment
At the time of Messiah's coming, Israel would have unfit leaders. Zechariah 11:4-6a Matthew 23:1-4
The Messiah's brothers would disbelieve him. Psalm 69:8b John 7:3-5
The Messiah would be the "stone" rejected by the Jews. Psalm 118:22 Matthew 21:42-43
The Jews would have a hardened heart against the Messiah. Isaiah 6:9-10a John 12:37-40
The Messiah would be a "stumbling stone" for the Jews. Isaiah 8:14 Matthew 21:43-44
The unbelief of Israel's leaders would force the Messiah to reject them. Zechariah 11:8a Matthew 23:33
The Messiah would stop ministering to the those who rejected Him. Zechariah 11:9 Matthew 13:10-11
The Messiah would be distressed over the Jews unbelief. Isaiah 49:4a Luke 19:41-42
The Messiah's own people would not believe he was the Christ. Isaiah 53:1 John 12:37-38
The Messiah would be rejected. Zechariah 11:12-13b Matthew 26:14-15
The Messiah would be rejected. Isaiah 53:3b Matthew 27:21-23
The Messiah would be rejected by the Jews. Isaiah 49:4b John 5:43
The Messiah would be rejected by the Jews. Psalm 69:8a John 1:11
The Messiah would be rejected in favor of another king. Zechariah 11:4-6c John 19:13-15
The Messiah would be rejected. Zechariah 11:12-13b Matthew 26:14-15
The Messiah would be rejected by Gentiles. Psalm 2:1 Acts 4:25-28
The Messiah would be rejected. Zechariah 12:10c John 1:11
The Messiah's rejection would cause God to remove His protection of Israel. Zechariah 11:4-6b Luke 19:41-44
The Messiah's rejection would cause God to remove His protection of Israel. Zechariah 11:10-11a Luke 19:41-44
Israel would be scattered as a result of rejecting the Messiah Zechariah 13:7d Matthew 26:31-56

The Messiah Would Suffer Greatly

Subject Prophecy Fulfillment
The Messiah would suffer while reconciling men to God. Genesis 3:15c 1 Peter 3:18
The Messiah would have great sorrow and grief. Isaiah 53:3c Luke 19:41-42
The Messiah, anguished, would pray without ceasing. Psalm 22:2 Matthew 26:38-39
The Messiah would be oppressed and afflicted. Isaiah 53:7a Matthew 27:27-31
The Messiah would be confined and persecuted. Isaiah 53:8a Matthew 26:47-27:31
The Messiah's face would be beaten and spit upon. Isaiah 50:6b Matthew 26:67
The Messiah's back would be whipped. Isaiah 50:6a Matthew 27:26
The Messiah's back would be whipped. Isaiah 53:5c Matthew 27:26
The Messiah's face would be disfigured from severe beatings. Isaiah 52:14 Matthew 26:67-68

The Crucifixion of the Messiah

Subject Prophecy Fulfillment
The Messiah would be sacrificed upon the same mountain where God tested Abraham. Genesis 22:14 Luke 23:33
The Messiah would be grouped with criminals. Isaiah 53:12c Luke 23:32
The Messiah's hands and feet would be pierced. Psalm 22:16c Matthew 27:38
The Messiah would pray for his enemies. Psalm 109:4 Luke 23:34
The Messiah would be offered gall and vinegar. Psalm 69:20-21a Matthew 27:34
The Messiah's garments would be divided. Psalm 22:18a John 19:23-24
Lots would be cast for the Messiah's clothes. Psalm 22:18b John 19:23-24
The Messiah would be surrounded by Gentiles at his crucifixion. Psalm 22:16a Luke 23:36
The Messiah would be surrounded by Jews at his crucifixion. Psalm 22:16b Matthew 27:41-43
People would stare at the Messiah during his crucifixion. Psalm 22:17b Luke 23:35
The Messiah would be thought to be cursed by God. Isaiah 53:4c Matthew 27:41-43
The Messiah would be mocked by people shaking their heads. Psalm 22:7 Matthew 27:39
The Messiah would be mocked by people shaking their heads. Psalm 109:25 Mark 15:29-30
Mockers would say of the Messiah, "he trusted God, let him deliver him." Psalm 22:8 Matthew 27:41-43
The Messiah would be crucified. Psalm 22:14b Matthew 27:35
The Messiah would cry out to God. Psalm 22:1a Matthew 27:46
The Messiah would be foresaken by God. Psalm 22:1b Mark 15:34
The Messiah would be surrounded by evil spirits. Psalm 22:12-13 Colossians 2:15
The Messiah would thirst. Psalm 22:15a John 19:28
The Messiah would thirst. Psalm 69:20-21b John 19:28
The Messiah would thirst shortly before his death. Psalm 22:15b John 19:30
The Messiah would be killed. Isaiah 53:8c Matthew 27:35
The Messiah would be killed. Daniel 9:26a Matthew 27:35
The Messiah would die a violent death. Zechariah 13:7b Matthew 27:35
None of the Messiah's bones would be broken. Psalm 22:17a John 19:32-33
None of the Messiah's bones would be broken. Psalm 34:20 John 19:32-33
The Messiah's body would be pierced. Zechariah 12:10a John 19:34-37
The Messiah's heart would burst, flowing with blood & water. Psalm 22:14a John 19:34
The Messiah would be buried in a rich man's grave. Isaiah 53:9a Matthew 27:57

The Resurrection & Victory of the Messiah

Subject Prophecy Fulfillment
The Messiah's body would not be subject to decay. Psalm 16:8-10b Acts 13:35-37
The Messiah would be resurrected. Psalm 16:8-10a Matthew 28:6
The Messiah would be resurrected and live forever. Isaiah 53:10c Mark 16:16
The Messiah would be resurrected by God. Isaiah 55:3 Acts 13:34
Others would rise to life at the resurrection of the Messiah. Isaiah 26:19 Matthew 27:52-53
The Messiah would be God's "firstborn." Psalm 89:27 Mark 16:6
The Messiah would defeat death. Isaiah 25:8 Revelation 1:18
The Messiah would defeat death. Hosea 13:14 1 Corinthians 15:55-57
The Messiah would defeat Satan. Genesis 3:15b 1 John 3:8
The Messiah would be justified by his righteouness. Isaiah 50:8 1 Timothy 3:16
The Messiah would ascend into heaven. Psalm 68:18a Luke 24:51
The Messiah would ascend into heaven. Daniel 7:13-14a Acts 1:9-11
The Messiah would ascend and descend from heaven. Proverbs 30:4a John 3:13
The Messiah would be exalted to the presence of God. Psalm 16:11 Acts 2:25-33
The Messiah would be resurrected and crowned as King. Psalm 2:7c Acts 13:30-33
The Messiah would be exalted by God with power and strength. 1 Samuel 2:10 Matthew 28:18
The Messiah would be at the right hand of God. Psalm 80:17 Acts 5:31
The Messiah would be at the right hand of God. Psalm 110:1b Mark 16:19
The Messiah would be at the right hand of God. Psalm 110:5 1 Peter 3:21-22
The Messiah's throne would be everlasting. 1 Chronicles 17:11-12b Luke 1:32-33
The Messiah's throne would be everlasting. Psalm 45:6-7a Luke 1:31-33
The Messiah's dominion would be everlasting. Daniel 7:13-14c Luke 1:31-33
Because of his sacrifice, the Messiah would be greatly exalted by God. Isaiah 53:12a Matthew 28:18
The Messiah would be highly exalted. Isaiah 52:13b Philippians 2:9-11
The Messiah would be highly exalted. Daniel 7:13-14b Ephesians 1:20-22
The Messiah would prosper. Isaiah 53:10d John 17:1-5
The Messiah would receive authority over all. Psalm 2:8b Matthew 28:18
The Messiah would be given authority over all things. Psalm 8:6 Matthew 28:18
A vision of the Messiah in a glorified state. Daniel 10:5-6 Revelation 1:13-16

sapphire630 answered on 08/04/05:

I saw some computer statistic showing how improbable or impossible it would be for all these prophecies to be fulfilled by one man. I forget what it was though.

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ATON2 asked on 07/30/05 - Are the geneologies of Jesus given by Matthew and Luke the truth?????

Thoughts from a Christian minister whose study of the bible turned him into a freethinker. Link to follow.

"The genealogies of Jesus present a particularly embarrassing example of why the Gospel writers are not reliable historians. Matthew gives a geneaology for Jesus consisting of twenty-eight names from David down to Joseph. Luke gives a reverse geneology of Jesus consisting of forty-three names from Joseph back to David. They each purport to prove that Jesus is of royal blood, though neither of them explains why Joseph's geneaology is relevant if he was NOT Jesus's father: Jesus was born of the Virgin Mary and the Holy Ghost.

Matthews line is like this: David, Solomon, eleven other names, Josiah, Jechoniah, Shealtiel,Zerubbabel, Abiud, six other names, Matthan, Jacob, and Joseph.
Luke's line is like this: David, Nathan, seventeen other names (none identical to Matthew's list), Melchi, Neri, Shealtiel, Zerubbabel, Rhesa, fifteen other names (none identical to Matthew's list), Matthat, Heli, and Joseph.

Some defenders of Christianity assert that this is not contradictory at all because Matthew's line is through Joseph and Luke's line is through Mary, even though a simple glance at the text shows that they both name Joseph!. No problem, say the apologists: Luke named Joseph, but he REALLY meant Mary. Since Joseph was the legal parent of Jesus, and since Jewish geneologies are patrilineal, it makes perfect sense to say that Heli (their choice for Mary's father) had a son named Joseph who had a son named Jesus. Beleive it or not, many Christians can make these statements with a straight face. In any event, they will not find a shred of evidence to support such a notion.

However, there is a more serious problem to this argument:L the two geneologies intersect. Notice that starting with David and ending with Joseph, the lines SHARE two names in common: Shealtiel and Zerubabbel, both commonly known from the period of the Babylonian captivity. If Matthew and Luke present two distint parental genealogies, as the apologists assert, thre should be NO intersection. In a last ditch defense, some very creative apologists have hypothesized that Shealtiel's grandmother could have had TWO husbands and that her sons Jechoniah and Neri represent two distinct paternal lines, but this is painfully speculative.

The two geneologies are widely diferent in length. One would have to suppose that something in Nathan's genes caused the men to sire sons fifty percent faster than the men in Solomon's line.

Matthew's line omits four names from the genealogy given in the Old Testament (between Joram and Jotham), and this makes sense when you notice that Matthew is trying to force his list into three neat groups of fourteen names each. (Seven is the Hebrew's most sacred number). He leaves out exactly the right number of names to make it fit. Some have argued that it was common to skip generations and that this does not make it incorrect. A great-great-grandfather is just as much an ancestor as a grandfather. This might be true, except that Matthew explcitly reports that it was EXACTLY fourteen generations: 'So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations: and from David until the carrying away to Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away to Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.' (Matthew l:17) Matthew is caught tinkering with the facts. His reliability as a historian is severely crippled.

Another problem is that Luke's geneology of Jesus goes through Nathan, which is NOT a royal line. Nor could Matthew's line be royal after Jeconiah because the divine prophecy says of Jeconiah that "no man of his seed shall prosper sitting upon the throne of David, and riding any more in Judah.: (Jeremiah 22:30)
Even if Luke's line is TRULY through Mary, Luke reports that Mary was a cousin to Elizabeth, who was of the tribe of Levi..not the royal line.

Since Jesus was not the son of Joseph, and since Jesus himself appears to deny his Davidic ancestry (Matthew 22:41-46) the whole geneaology is pointless. Instead of rooting Jesus in history, it provides critics with an open window on the myth-making process. The Gospel writers wanted to make of their hero nothing less than what was claimed of other saviours of other religions....a KING born of a Virgin."

Forgive any typing errors, as this is not cut and paste...it can be found as part of a 15-page report "Jesus: Myth or History" at www.southwest.com.au/~joseph/Jesus%20History%20or%20Myth.htm.

sapphire630 answered on 08/04/05:

What someone once explained to me was that

Nor could Matthew's line be royal after Jeconiah because the divine prophecy says of Jeconiah that "no man of his seed shall prosper sitting upon the throne of David, and riding any more in Judah.: (Jeremiah 22:30)

to show that Joseph could not be Jesus' biological father for this very reason and that was the whole purpose of writing this lineage.

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arcura asked on 08/03/05 - Three questions...+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.

Which of these fit you?
Which of them funny?
Which could be viewed even remotely as Christian?
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I was thinking about how a status symbol of today is those cell phones that everyone has clipped on. I can't afford one. So, I'm wearing my garage door opener.

You know, I spent a fortune on deodorant before I realized that people didn't like me anyway.

I was thinking about old age and decided that it is 'when you still have something on the ball, but you are just too tired to bounce it'

I thought about making a fitness movie, for folks my age, and call it "Pumping Rust."

I have gotten that dreaded furniture disease. That's when your chest is falling into your drawers!

I know, when people see a cat's litter box, they always say, "Oh, have you got a cat?" Just once I want to say, "No, it's for company!"

Employment application blanks always ask 'who is to be notified in case of an emergency?' I think you should write, "A Good Doctor!"

Why do they put pictures of criminals up in the Post Office? What are we supposed to do -- write to these men? Why don't they just put their pictures on the postage stamps so the mailmen could look for them while they deliver the mail? Or better yet, arrest them while they are taking their pictures!

I was thinking about how people seem to read the Bible a whole lot more as they get older. Then, it dawned on me, they were cramming for their finals. As for me, I'm just hoping God grades on the curve.

"When I walked out here before, I saw all the screaming girls out here, and then I remembered -- oh, yeah, Al Gore is on the show!" --Jay Leno

sapphire630 answered on 08/04/05:

LOL!!!!!

I heard someone say that fake cell phones should be passed out to homeless bums who talk to themselves so then you wouldn't be able to tell they are talking to themselves....I am ready to stand in line folr one of them!

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excon asked on 07/25/05 - Safety in numbers???

Hello Christians:

Tell me, please. If you, by yourself, say a prayer in school (courthouse, etc.), will God hear it? Or, does your God require more than one of you to pray before he hears it? How many does it take? Do you need the support of your friends before you can pray? Does it embarrass you to pray alone? Do YOU have a one on one relationship with God, or does it require a majority? Why do you need everybody around you to lip since with you?

Really, I'm interested because you seem to think that if you can't make everybody pray with you, then your prayers won't work.

What's up with that?

excon

sapphire630 answered on 07/25/05:

Pray without ceasing...it can be done
in a group or alone. In every breath gives praise and thanksgiving (a form of prayer)

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ATON2 asked on 07/23/05 - Is this what the advocates of 'racial profiling' want to see happen??????

The man shot by London police (5 times in the head) because they thought he looked like an escaping terrorist, was a Brazilan electrician. The Creator help all the rest of us who look like Arabs!!!!!!! No wonder the prayer arose: "Jesus protect me from your followers"!!!!!!

sapphire630 answered on 07/25/05:

I have known of 12 year old boys being shot to death for running from the police. I have seen little old grandmothers handcuffed and thrown in jail simply for asking why the police were throwing their grandson in jail. Their reason....interfering with police. My point....Injustice is indiscriminate anymore.

What I want to know is why for the sake of not profiling are groups of *suspicious looking people* get through on the checks at airports while little old ladies are searched

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CeeBee2 asked on 07/21/05 - Of course the double post will help drive you crazy

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sapphire630 answered on 07/21/05:

I lost too much of my craziness so bring it on!

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arcura asked on 07/18/05 - Is another bit of freedom about to go down the drain?

DES MOINES, Iowa (AP)--Fees for a new driver's license could triple. Lines at motor vehicles offices could stretch out the door. Governors warned Monday that states and consumers would bear much of the burden for a terrorism-driven push to turn licenses into a national ID card.

“It's a huge problem,” said Democrat Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania. “Trying to make this work, there will be hell to pay.” He said it would cost his state “$100 million-plus” to restructure motor vehicle offices to respond to a new federal law called the REAL ID Act.

The law that passed in June as part of an $82 billion military spending bill goes beyond an earlier measure that sought to standardize state driver's licenses. By 2008, states must begin to verify whether license applicants are American citizens or legal residents of the United States.

That deadline brought the first question in a closed-door session between governors and federal officials on homeland security Monday at the National Governors Association meeting.

The two groups also talked about pressures on National Guard troops, and steps to better integrate state and local law enforcement with federal efforts to prevent terrorist attacks, governors said as they wrapped up their summer meeting.

But the REAL ID Act prompted the strongest reaction.

“It has become a national ID card. It's a terrible idea for the states to do it,” said Republican Mike Huckabee of Arkansas, chairman of the governors association. “They have created a national nightmare and they'll probably be driving up the cost of the driver's licenses by three- or four-fold.”

After meeting privately with governors, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the new law could create opportunities to protect people against identity theft. He also offered assurances that his agency would work cooperatively with states.

“What we want is to find a common plan that works for everybody, but we'll also take into account the natural differences states have,” Chertoff said.

The latest law--and an earlier version that had passed last year--have brought complaints from civil liberties advocates that the new cards' reliance on biometric identifiers such as fingerprints or retinal scans would threaten privacy.

They have warned that the documents can be stolen or altered, making identity theft easier, and that the cards could let government track people's travels.

But governors were more concerned about the bottom line, for their budgets and for their citizens. Huckabee's prediction: “Lines longer, price higher, frustration certainly greater.”

The federal government is essentially demanding the skills of immigration officials and FBI agents from motor vehicle clerks whose starting pay, in Arkansas, is $8.27 an hour, he said.

The logic of the law is also flawed, said Democrat Bill Richardson of New Mexico, because denying illegal immigrants a driver's license just makes it harder for government and law enforcement to keep track of them.

New Mexico allows illegal immigrants to get licenses. That makes roads safer since licensed immigrants can get insured and give the state data about where they live, he said. It also helps immigrants integrate into society, he said.

“It's working and now it could be dismantled by a shortsighted, federal unfunded mandate,” Richardson said

sapphire630 answered on 07/21/05:

The government makes no sense they *GIVE* away drivers licenses to illegals and then turn around and say they want a national ID card because they want to crack down on the illegals.....well I figured it out......they are allowing the borders to be open for all to come here illegally for the sole purpose of using it to turn around and impose stricter regulations and so forth on us....for our benefit of course!

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CeeBee2 asked on 07/21/05 - My attempt to drive you crazy...............

arcura had told me: "Of course it is a gift.
One can earn it."

Must one earn a gift, or is it something that is free and unearned?

Don't get into religion, but please just answer the above question as to your own experience with getting and giving gifts.

sapphire630 answered on 07/21/05:

I guess it is like one of them there for a donation of 60.00 you can recieve a video.

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Krewton asked on 07/15/05 - Question for Hope

Now let me git this straight. Accordin' to J.W. beliefs if I die and am not a believer I cease to exist? No hell? , and I get to be saved in the final resurection? So basically I can do anything I want and still be saved in the end!? WOW! yore doctine of Universalism sho beats the fire out of my doctrine of "Eternal Security")

sapphire630 answered on 07/18/05:

yep, it don't make sense to me....been puzzlin' me since they told me that....do what you want cause you can make it right in the millenium.

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hOPE12 asked on 07/14/05 - Does God live in your Church?

Hello Everyone,

Does God live in your building of worship?

Please keep this scripture in mind when answering.


(Acts 17:23-24) For instance, while passing along and carefully observing YOUR objects of veneration I also found an altar on which had been inscribed ‘To an Unknown God.’ Therefore what YOU are unknowingly giving godly devotion to, this I am publishing to YOU. 24 The God that made the world and all the things in it, being, as this One is, Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in handmade temples.

Take care,
Hope12

sapphire630 answered on 07/15/05:

Have to agree with Paraclete and Aton!

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excon asked on 07/13/05 - Morals

Hello Christians:

Let’s say that you were 62 years old, and you just got convicted of a crime and sentenced to 25 years in the slam - a virtual life sentence. You are, for the time being, free, but you have to report to the slam in October. You have sufficient assets to allow you to live comfortably, anywhere.

Would you stay? Would your innocence affect your decision? Would your guilt affect your decision. Would guilt or innocence even matter to you, for purposes of this decision? Why?

excon

sapphire630 answered on 07/15/05:

I have heard of people that lived a good moral life for many years after whatever they did and felt that they needed to go to jail to make it right once they were caught. Me personally, I wouldn't do anything to go to jail, but if they tried to arrest me for some stupid reason or another I'd rather they just shot me than spend one minute on that holding cell bench!

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hOPE12 asked on 07/15/05 - Follow up on Salvation!


Hello Everyone,
I wanted to do a follow up comments on the topic of salvation. If you wish to comment or give explanations, please feel free to do so.

I personally believe that all must believe in Jesus and that this is crucial to our salvation. I also though believe that more is needed. Please allow me to explain why I feel this way. –
Jesus spoke of some who would profess faith in him and even profess powerful works in his name, but remember Jesus did not recognize them. There must have been a reason why. Because they were “workers of lawlessness” and did not do the will of his Father. Matthew 7:15-23
The disciple James also reminds us of the need to “become doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves with false reasoning.” He also said: “You believe there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder. . . . Faith without works is dead.” James 1:22; 2:19, 26.
Some, though, argue that those who are genuinely saved do all these things anyway. But is that really the case in practice?

Many insist that the Scriptures say: “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life.” John 3:36, KJV Some even conclude that once you have accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as their personalSavior, they can never again be lost. “Once saved, always saved” is their sayings.
Notice the inspired warning of the disciple Jude. He wrote: “Beloved ones, though I was making every effort to write you about the salvation we hold in common, I found it necessary to write you to exhort you to put up a hard fight for the faith that was once for all time delivered to the holy ones.” Jude 3 NWT
Why did Jude write this? Because he knew that individual Christians could still lose the ‘salvation they hold in common.’ He went on to say: “I desire to remind you . . . that Jehovah, although he saved a people [the Israelites] out of the land of Egypt, afterwards destroyed those not showing faith.”Jude 5. NWT

Jude 5: 5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not. KJV

Jude’s warning would be pointless if Christians did not face a danger similar to that of those Israelites. Jude was not questioning the value of Jesus’ sacrifice. That sacrifice has saved us from Adamic sin, and Jesus will protect those who exercise faith in him. No one can snatch them out of his hand. But we can lose that protection. How? By doing what was done by many Israelites who were saved from Egypt. We can deliberately choose to disobey God.—Deuteronomy 30:19, 20.

Imagine being rescued from a burning tower. Think of the relief you would feel as you were safely taken from the building and the rescuer said: “You are safe now.” Yes, you would have been saved from certain death. But what would happen if you decided to go back into the building for some foolish reason? Your life would again be in danger.
Christians are in a saved condition. They have the prospect of everlasting life because they are in an approved position before God. As a group, their salvation from Adamic sin and all its consequences is sure.

But individually they will be saved to eternal life only if they continue to adhere to all of God’s requirements. Jesus emphasized this when he likened himself to a vine and his disciples to branches in that vine. He said: “Every branch in me not bearing fruit [God] takes away . . . If anyone does not remain in union with me, he is cast out as a branch and is dried up; and men gather those branches up and pitch them into the fire and they are burned.” John 15:2, 6; Hebrews 6:4-6 Those losing faith in Jesus also lose everlasting life.
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I personally believe there are various things involved in getting saved.
1- We must take in accurate knowledge of God’s purposes and his way of salvation.
2- We must exercise faith in the Chief Agent of salvation, Jesus Christ,
3- We need to do God’s will the rest of our lives.
John 3:16; Titus 2:14

Salvation is sure for those who follow this course. But it involves persevering right to the end of our present life or of this system of things. Only “he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved.” Matthew 24:13.

Does the Bible actually say, “Once saved, always saved”? No, it does not use those words in any specific text, but many sincere people believe that this is what the Bible teaches. And it is true that a number of Bible texts indicate that the basis for salvation is not one’s works, but, rather, faith in Jesus Christ, together with God’s “grace” and mercy. Eph. 2:8, 9; 2 Tim. 1:9; Titus 3:4, 5 Additionally, Jesus himself said that “he that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life.”—John 3:36, Authorized Version (AV); 1 John 5:13.

From such references it is often reasoned that if one ‘has everlasting life,’ he actually possesses it permanently; it cannot be lost, or, as many would have it: “Once saved, always saved.” However, does this understanding fully express the Scriptural view of gaining everlasting life?

Well, Christians concerned about their salvation may also wish to consider Jesus’ declaration that “he that endureth to the end shall be saved.” (Matt. 10:22; 24:12, 13; Mark 13:13, AV) And the apostle Paul comments similarly: “For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end.”—Heb. 3:14, AV.
How are we to reconcile these seeming disparities? Surely these servants of God were not contradicting themselves. Rather, were they not merely expressing the same understanding from different viewpoints? The apostle Paul provides the key to harmonizing these viewpoints.

Time and again Paul likens the Christian’s course to a “race” that must be run to the finish. “Let us run with patience the race that is set before us,” he urged the Hebrews. (12:1, AV) To enter the race, sinners must take the steps necessary for salvation: hearing and accepting the Word of God, believing in Jesus Christ and his ransom sacrifice, repenting of their sins and being baptized. In this way, they get saved “from this crooked generation,” as Peter exhorted those gathered at Pentecost. Unbelievers are outside the race, having failed to enter by getting “saved.”—Acts 2:37-40, Revised Standard Version (RSV); 16:31-33; Rom. 10:13, 14.

Once entered in the race by being “saved,” a Christian takes “hold of the life which is life indeed.” But is it possible to lose that grip on life? Paul answers with this question: “Do you not know that in a race all the runners compete, but only one receives the prize?” In the Christian race, Paul indicates the “one” who receives the prize is anyone who finishes the race. Therefore, Paul urges, “So run that you may obtain it.” Then, using himself as an example to make the point of his illustration, he continues: “I pommel my body and subdue it, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified.”—1 Tim. 6:19; 1 Cor. 9:24-27, RSV.

Evidently the apostle, who surely was a “saved” Christian, believed that even he could be “disqualified” from the race. Yet as long as he continued to ‘run that he might obtain’ the prize, thus remaining in the race, salvation was assured. This is why Christians who remain in the race can be said to ‘have everlasting life.’ But if they should ever quit the race, they are “disqualified,” losing their hold on everlasting life.

Paul follows up his remarks on the Christian’s race by cautioning about the danger of overconfidence. Using the example of the Israelites who were saved through the Red Sea, yet fell to wrongdoing in the wilderness, he warned: “We [“saved” Christians] must not put the Lord to the test.” Then, driving his point home, he declared: “Let any one who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall.” Yes, it could happen, even to “saved” ones!—1 Cor. 10:1-12, RSV.

This is why, throughout his writings, Paul consistently emphasized his own need to stay in the race. For example, of his hoped-for reward of the resurrection, he said: “I do not consider that I have made it my own; but one thing I do, forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead, I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.” It was only after Paul neared the end of his life that he wrote: “I have finished the race, I have kept the faith.” At this point in his life, he could finally say with confidence: “Henceforth there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, will award me on that Day.”—Phil. 3:11-14; 2 Tim. 4:6-8, RSV.

Paul’s view of his own salvation, then, is consistent with Jesus’ comments mentioned earlier about ‘enduring to the end’ to be saved.—See also Revelation 2:10; 3:11, 12, AV.

This helps us to see why Paul repeatedly entreated “saved” Christians to be on guard. Their everlasting salvation was still at stake. Addressing the obviously “saved” Hebrew Christians who had been “illuminated” and who had “endured a great fight of afflictions,” he warns: “If we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins.” The sacrificial benefits that “saved” such persons, then, can be lost. Why? Because such a person “hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto [outraged, RSV] the Spirit of grace.”—Heb. 10:26-32, AV.

Christians who truly appreciate the salvation provided through Christ and God’s grace will not be overconfident. They will strive to remain in the race like Paul and the other early Christians, whom he encouraged to “work out [their] own salvation with fear and trembling.”—Phil. 2:12, AV.

Informations taken from the Bible's NWT, KJV, AMS, AV, RSV/

Comments????

Take care,
Hope12

sapphire630 answered on 07/15/05:

One thing I honestly do not understand about Jehovah Witnesses is what purpose do they see in salvation when they tell me that everybody comes back to life for a second chance for the millenium. What purpose does salvation serve then?
Also for people like Chou who want nothing to do with an after-life, all they have to do is believe the non-existence teaching?

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paraclete asked on 07/15/05 - Christian's it's time we stood and said prayer does make a difference

Prayer 'won't help sick'
July 15, 2005 - 10:39AM


Praying for people who are facing heart surgery does not raise their chances of a cure or of avoiding death, according to an unusual study published in the British medical weekly The Lancet.

US doctors enrolled 748 patients with coronary artery disease who were about to undergo cardiac or arterial treatment using a catheter, a technique that can be done under local anaesthetic and is less invasive than open surgery but still carries a risk.

The patients were assigned to two groups of roughly equal numbers.

The first group had prayers said for them at a distance by Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists and others; the second one had no prayers said for them.

In addition to this, half of each group received bedside training in music, imagery and touch - practising relaxed breathing and listening to laid-back music to prepare for their operation - and half did not.

At a six-month follow-up check, there was no significant difference in the outcome between the prayer and no prayer groups, in terms of mortality, the number of heart attacks or readmissions to hospital.

But in both groups, the patients who received the "music, imagery and touch" treatment did get a perceptible benefit.

They were less stressed and worried prior to the operation, and their death rate at six months was slightly lower when compared with patients who did not get this treatment.

The study was led by Mitchell Krucoff of the Duke University Medical Centre in North Carolina.

AFP

so come on and tell us of your personal experiences where prayer has made a difference.

I'll go first. about ten years ago I needed an operation which would break the spetum in my nose. My surgeon told me this would be painfull for a few days. Before I entered surgery I prayed committing myself to God. There was no pain at any time. I don't think my surgeon believed me when I told him there was no pain.

sapphire630 answered on 07/15/05:

For every poll or study I see I see a total contradricting poll. I hear about doctors and nurses who say they see miracles through prayer more often than the average person or church.
One thing that I think makes this study not very effective:
A study shows that bitter unforgiving people have more medical problems. Bitter unforgiving people also are the ones that would be, more likely, to have a harder heart toward any benefits from prayer in the first place.

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MaggieB asked on 07/14/05 - We should pray for our government!

Is it just me, or does anyone else find it amazing that our government can track a cow born in Canada almost three years ago, right to the stall where she sleeps in the state of Washington. And they tracked her calves to their stalls. But they are unable to locate 11 million illegal aliens wandering around in our country. Maybe we should give each one a cow.

sapphire630 answered on 07/15/05:

Answer is that he doesn't want to keep them out...Why? My guess is his plan is to use the illegal alien & terrorists here as an excuse to make us have to go through more things such as national I.D. card, the chip, stricter patriot acts, homeland security, etc...
Instead of being pro-active and checking who comes in to the country in the first place.
For $5,000. they can become legal...that's all it takes.

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excon asked on 07/15/05 - Are sex offenders stupid or is it the government?


Hello experts:

Tracking sex offenders is one of the more stupid things our government does. In the first place, the government does NOT track sex offenders even though it says that it does. In the second place, assuming the government DOES know where certain sex offenders are, what good does it do for the victim who gets attacked by one, EVEN THOUGH THE GOVERNMENT KNEW WHERE HE WAS?

If they shouldn’t be on the streets, then pass laws that keep them in the slam. Passing laws to track them is stupid, stupid, stupid.

Go ahead, argue with me.

excon

sapphire630 answered on 07/15/05:

The latest big issue on the news with Shasta pretty much says it all, I'd say.

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powderpuff asked on 07/12/05 - why are you spreading rumors about me?

Hi Sapphire,

Just curious, why are you spreading rumors that I am chewy?????

copy and paste:

Question Details Asked By Asked On
Society & Culture/Christianity

chewy is powderpuff AkA as harmonyhil from the
spiritual board on askme.com




sapphire630 07/10/05





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07/12/05 Krewton
AHHHHHHHH, I see said the blindman;)

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I am not chewy. I have an idea that tarot10 gave you that information and I've reported her for abuse because of it. If you have information that tarot10 is not who started this little rumor, I'd like to know so I can tell Vijay and Dathaeus that I was wrong about my suspicions. They both know chewy isn't me. tarot10 is currently being investigated by complaints from others about all the lies she spreads about other experts here, now it looks like I've been added to her list of victims.

Come on Sapphire, you are smarter than that! You know I've never hidden my user names. Geez!

powderpuff, AkA Sharlene, harmonyhill, Zarahemla, Ursulagurturdis, SaturdaysWarrior, Willbe, but I never have been chewy.

sapphire630 answered on 07/12/05:

thought it was you sorry.

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MaggieB asked on 07/07/05 - To Pete:

My thoughts and prayers are with you and with those of your country who have been murdered or injured in any degree and their families; for those who are assisting them; for the
innocence of lives that has been shattered; for Tony Blair and those who are in his cabinet. May God sustain you, give you all courage, strength and peace of mind in such a distressing time.

Love and God bless,
MaggieB
Margaret

sapphire630 answered on 07/09/05:

Thankfully Pete is still with us!

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ATON2 asked on 07/08/05 - Not a question. Just a point of information.

Answerway DOES respond to legitimate requests. I asked that my blocking of Krewton be lifted....It has been. We can start knocking each other around again :) :) :)

sapphire630 answered on 07/09/05:

Aton I want front row seat and I will cheer you'z on!
krew I figured out who chewy is.

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excon asked on 07/09/05 - Snitching


Hello Christians:

Snitching - tattling - ratting - kissing and telling, buring your sources, etc.

What is the Christian/moral stand on the subject? Why? Do you keep secrets? Would you go to jail to keep a secret? Is it good or bad to do so? What do you teach your kids?

If it's good, why are all the terms describing one who does so, so reviling? If it's good, we should call it kissing or loving.

excon

sapphire630 answered on 07/09/05:

I really don't know. If it depends on life or death I think I would do which ever necessary.
One think I know is I am sick of all these cheatin' women I see and everybody acts like they are the elephant in the room nobody wants to deal with. If they aren't happy with their other half why do they leave 'em in the dark and feed 'em sh*t?

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FormerJesusHelper76 asked on 07/07/05 - The Coming Of Jesus!

What does the bible say about the signs of the coming of Jesus and How do we prepare for this? Pete asked a question about not using the book and I am asking you to use the book.

Thank you in advance.

Joe

sapphire630 answered on 07/07/05:

How do we prepare for the coming of Jesus?
Well according to the rapture *theory* we would all be raptured away and therefore not able to prepare for when he comes back to rule.

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excon asked on 07/06/05 - Christians vs. Science


Hello:

There's science and there's religion. I don't see a conflict, but I detect a virulent disagreement with science from some of you (tomder; Itsb; the rev). I wonder why. Is it because science sometimes debunks religion? Do you think science has an "anti-religion" agenda? Do you think scientists manipulate their data to reach a pre-determined anti-religious idea?

Personally, I've always been thrilled when science explains something to me - even when it destroyed some of my long held beliefs. I certainly never argued about it. Scientists don't "care" about what they discover. They only care about discovering something.

Or, do you know something I don't? That’s “know”, not believe.

excon

sapphire630 answered on 07/07/05:

Long before science

http://www.rinconhosting.net/users/bibletest/articles/biblescience.htm

the Bible says God took what is not seen to make what is seen---atoms, DNA etc...

there are verses (one is in Job) that talks about undersea currents. I have an article about the man that discovered and explained it all.

the Bible said the stars can not be numbered
Genesis 22:17 Blessing I will bless you, and multiplying I will multiply your descendants as the stars of the heaven and as the sand which is on the seashore; and your descendants shall possess the gate of their enemies.
Jeremiah 33:22 “As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, nor the sand of the sea measured, so will I multiply the descendants of David My servant and the Levites who minister to Me.”

The Bible also says that each star is unique.
1 Corinthians 15:41 There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.

The Bible describes the suspension of the Earth in space.
Job 26:7 He stretches out the north over empty space;
He hangs the earth on nothing.

The Bible talked about the "circle of the earth" long before Galileo did, when many thought the earth was flat. And before man understood astronomy, the Bible said that God had fixed the stars in the sky, keeping them in their place.

The Bible describes the circulation of the atmosphere.
Ecclesiastes 1:6 The wind goes toward the south, And turns around to the north;
The wind whirls about continually,
And comes again on its circuit.

Germs
People didn't understand the biological nature of germs until relatively recently (the last few hundred years). Yet in the Old Testament cleanliness laws and food laws, you have an obvious understanding of germs. But those instructions from God came thousands of years before man even understood how germs were transmitted, or even what they were.

I have a lot more but can't remember them right off. Let me know if you want more.

I do believe science, especially evolution, does manipulate their data to reach a pre-determined anti-religious idea.
I have heard many stories about how they will take different bones from different areas, even eras to make neandrthal man etc...and how do they know these previous evolutions of humans looked the way they did---hairy like an ape etc...? Just an artist rendition.

sapph
proud not to be identified as or with a knuckle draggin' neanderthal!




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arcura asked on 07/06/05 - The Necessity of Forgiveness…………………………………………..

Matthew 6:12. And forgive us our debts, as we have forgiven those who are in debt to us. 13. And do not put us to the test, but save us from the Evil One.
14. `Yes, if you forgive others their failings, your heavenly Father will forgive you yours; 15. but if you do not forgive others, your Father will not forgive your failings either. NJB

The way I see this is that if I forgive in a certain manner then that is how God will forgive me.
As example if I forgive only those who ask to be forgiven a certain sin than that is the one I will forgive and not others that may have been made.
Or I will forgive another only after they have been punished.

Question 1. Have you forgiven ALL who have trespassed against you and if so how?
Question 2. Is forgiveness of others by us mortals necessary for salvation?
Question 3. Do you believe that a person who does not forgive and enter Paradise?

sapphire630 answered on 07/07/05:

My problem is I can't get mad at anybody no matter how rotten they treat me! But I try to avoid getting myself where I am letting them treat me rotten.

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revdauphinee asked on 07/06/05 - storms!

Im sitting here in the middle of a tropical storm with at least one more worse one of shore please pray for the safety of all folks in thier paths
Dorothy

sapphire630 answered on 07/07/05:

I don't know which of my daughters to worry about more. One is joining the air force reserves and the other wants to start college in Florida!

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paraclete asked on 07/06/05 - Not directly Christian but?

Is African poverty the result of Christian intervention? Are we trying to rescue african from the worst effects of a liberal european christian appraoch



White mischief at play on a dark continent
July 7, 2005


It is Africa that has fallen victim to the arrogant, polluting G8 nations, writes Madeleine Bunting.

CALL me naive, but I thought it was possible 2005 could achieve even more than a historic breakthrough deal on debt relief and aid for Africa. The conjunction of this key political moment with a huge cultural festival, Africa 05, seemed to hold the promise of achieving one of those lasting shifts in public understanding of Africa.

What seemed within grasp was the start of a new relationship, finally drawing a line under the colonial themes of "saving" and "civilising" the continent.

The wealth of African creativity evident everywhere - art, music, sculpture, film - would reinject into the public sphere a perception of the immense ingenuity, resourcefulness and reflective inquiry of Africans. It would shatter the myth of Africans as powerless victims at the mercy of Western generosity and do-goodery. It would correct the media myth that the fate of millions of Africans is passively lying in the hands of eight men arriving in Gleneagles today, and make clear that, given half a chance, Africans can shape the circumstances of their daily lives - and their often-precarious survival - far more powerfully and effectively than the Group of Eight.

The hope was people would get to see more of Africa on their screens than starving black babies. We would get to hear about Africans much like ourselves - with the same hopes, fears and aspirations; we would, finally, begin to identify with them as human beings. That shift of perception offered a radical potential for a more equal engagement between Europe and Africa.

You may say that was ludicrously naive. I begin to fear that you are right. What we are seeing in this unprecedented media focus on Africa is an old theme. In 1787, the slogan of the Quaker abolitionists was "Am I not a man and a brother?" But the radicalism of this rallying cry was belied by the image on the Anti-Slavery Society's seal of the African slave - he was on his knees. His liberty and dignity was ours for the giving, not his for the taking. The relationship at this G8, 200 years later, is similarly framed: African as supplicant to the (mostly) white men.

An entire continent has been reduced to a "scar on the conscience of the world", stripped of its dignity and left more powerless than at any time since 1787. The images we saw of Africans at Live 8 at the weekend were the dying, the starving and the desperately impoverished.

Post-colonialism in a globalising economy is proving even more humiliating for Africa than colonialism: its huge wealth in natural resources sequestered in secret bank accounts; its commodities commanding ever-smaller prices; its vicious wars with the exported arms of the industrial world; its government policies dictated from Washington and Geneva.

Tony Blair's Africa agenda is yet another expression of what Professor John Lonsdale, the Cambridge historian of Africa, described in a lecture last week as "the self-righteously civilising mission of the past two centuries" of Europe towards its neighbour. He concluded that "it is a construction that infantilises not only Africans, unable to fend for themselves, but us, too, like babies demanding the instant gratification of self-importance".

What the past few weeks have reinforced in popular perception is the absurd simplification of an entire continent so that it is explicable in terms of just four adjectives: picturesque, pitiful, psychopathic and, above all, passive. This is the formula used by such interlocutors as Bob Geldof and Rolf Harris.

Sumptuous maybe, but the programs were riddled with stereotypes - setting suns, smiling children, inexplicable crazed violence - and had little new to say.

This kind of television reflects a profound lack of curiosity about Africa; a sharp contrast to the early 20th century, when Africa revolutionised Western art, or the 1960s, when a wave of new African leaders drew nervous respect across Europe. It is almost as if the West can't accept African agency: we want simplification of the

four Ps because it so neatly caters to our fears, derived from the colonial history of the "dark continent" of Joseph Conrad fame. Is this the price that has to be paid for an instant of Western attention?

Africa exposes - like no other continent - the hubristic arrogance of the Western industrialised countries that dominate the globe and are forcing an entire species into one model of human development - a model with catastrophic shortcomings.

Now is precisely the point at which we need to learn about the genius of Africa's own history of development, which, Lonsdale suggests, lies in the extraordinary resilience and self-sufficiency to survive and adapt in habitats not always conducive to human life. The resilience is derived in part from an investment in relationships (rather than things); partly it lies in the qualities of self-disciplined willpower that sustains individuals against all the odds. These are skills we've forgotten or may never have had, but the coming centuries suggest we'll need to learn them from Africans.

If we recognised the immensity of this achievement of human endeavour over thousands of years, it might help to dismantle the self-satisfied superiority by which the West lays claim to a monopoly on concepts of progress and development.

We - Africans and Westerners - might begin to reframe the debate and ask ourselves if it isn't the grossly polluting G8 that is a scar on the conscience of the world.

Madeleine Bunting is a columnist with The Guardian , London.

sapphire630 answered on 07/07/05:

I was listening to a program one time that showed about the ruled of the smallest country in Africa takes the money given for the poor and buy Rolls Royces and had a fountain built in his foyer which is bigger than any of my rooms.
I heard the other day that one of the main leaders in Africa wants and hopes over half the African population dies and something about him bulldozing over villages.

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tomder55 asked on 07/05/05 - Live 8

I am sure the leaders of the G8 meeting today in Scotland were all moved by the Pink Floyd reunion and I'm sure the whole concert thingy will have a big impact on the decisions the G8 leaders reach this week .

While highlighting the plight of starving Africa Stevie Wonder and Bon Jovi enjoyed a backstage gourmet menu of crispy calamari salad and salmon sushi;others ate char-grilled dry aged beef, tea-smoked spare ribs and chicken and ginger dumplings.
Various artists were given expensive gratuities for their volunteer efforts including Hugo Boss suits, watches, satellite radio subscriptions, Gibson guitars, $125 ties, $330 sweat suits ;jewellery.Many of them accepted a $12,749 goody bag of gifts for their appearance .The concert had a real boosting effect on the sales of many over the hill performer .

HMV has a full list of the artists on Live 8 who received an increase in album sales .Some of the listed acts are shown below.


REM 'Reveal' - 50%
The Beatles 'Number 1s' - 71%
U2 'Best Of: 1990 –' - 116%
The Killers 'Hot Fuss' - 131%
Razorlight 'Up all Night' - 335%
Dido 'Life for Rent' - 412%
The Who 'Then & Now' - 863%
Pink Floyd 'Echoes - Best Of' - 1,343%

I guess this charity thing is good for business. Did the concerts actually raise any money? No. Did they come up with a solution to world hunger ? No. Did they at least tell those who might want to make a donation to some worthy charity where to send the money? No. In fact, the concert cost uncounted millions of dollars. Who paid for the hotel suites ;the limos ?Why couldn’t that money have been used to benefit the poor starving Africans ? The real point was convincing you to tell the government that it needs to take more of your weekly paycheck and send it to the corrupt leaders of African nations. In contrast ;Moammar Kadafi is beginning to resemble Gandhi .


sapphire630 answered on 07/05/05:

yeahp look at what the concert did for Bangladesh way back in the daze!!!

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Krewton asked on 07/04/05 - No Question, just a statement..........

God Bless America on July 4th!!!!!

sapphire630 answered on 07/04/05:

my favorite day of the year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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MaggieB asked on 07/01/05 - The Bible or the Koran?

This is what is happening in North Carolina where I live:

...North Carolina judges are refusing a request by several Muslim organizations that want changes in the courtroom process. The Muslims want to replace the Bible with the Koran when a member of the Islamic faith is sworn in to give testimony. Judges in the Tar Heel state have refused -- and North Carolina Republican Representative Walter Jones likes that response. "I think this [request] is absolutely unacceptable," Jones says, "and I will encourage my friends who are judges in North Carolina -- and I'm sure they'll do this without my encouragement -- to resist any effort to allow the Koran to replace the Bible. It is absolutely unacceptable." The Muslim groups are expected to persist in their effort to replace the Bible.

Has anyone on the board had this to happen in your state?

sapphire630 answered on 07/03/05:

I didn't know there was anywhere left that swore on the Bible any more.
It kind of does make sense for MUSLIMS to swear on their own book. I am sure for them to swear on the Bible would have no significance to them.
If they are trying to force it to be the court standard doesn't sound right at all; especially when they say that us 'infidels' are not to touch their book.

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FormerJesusHelper76 asked on 07/03/05 - Karla Homolka

Ontario murderer. She is being released on Monday. She is trying to get the courts to get a media ban and she is trying to claim she has been treated as a monster. She pleaded guilty to two counts of manslaughter in the involvement of the killing. Homolka was sentenced to 12 years in prison in 1993 after she pleaded guilty to two counts of manslaughter for her role in her then-husband Paul Bernardo's sex slayings of Leslie Mahaffy, 14, and Kristen French, 15, and the fatal drugging rape of Homolka's youngest sister Tammy, 15. She is afraid for her life. Well she should be. What do you think should be the law about people who commits these horific murders. I know in some parts of the states these people would be in prison until they died naturally or giving the death penalty. What do you think about this case and what can be done to make sure this does not happen again, meaning light sentences. This is one thing I do not like about Canada. Very Very lax punishment system.

sapphire630 answered on 07/03/05:

It really isn't much better here. I have seen people get longer jail time for minor stuff than people that continually do really messed up things. I know too many that seem to have a revolving door at the jail. People say they keep getting out because they rat on others. I ask how many times can they say Joe and Frank sell drugs, etc...before it gets to where they can't get out on it. Society is not being protected from many that should be in jail. They manage to keep getting released.

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Bobbye asked on 07/02/05 - LUCY: Lived 3.18 million years past.

Re comments that dispel the "young earth theory" (I am not a proponent of the "young earth theory"), we were then pointed to "mother Lucy," whom the Arizona State University-Institute of Human Origins has dated as 3.18 million years past, based upon the Argon-Argon dating technique.

http://www.asu.edu/clas/iho/lucy.html

(1) WHAT ABOUT GENESIS 1:1 that covers the period at least 15 billion years prior to Genesis 1:2 (based upon carbon dating -- which some dispel; others accept)?

(2) LUCY, AS WELL AS EVE, WOULD FIT INTO THE FIFTEEN-BILLION-YEARS-PAST ERA -- BUT ONLY A MERE 3 MILLION YEARS OLD ("young chick"). EVE, of course, APPROXIMATELY fourteen plus BILLION YEARS OLDER, SO BACK TO "MOTHER EVE." ("Time Magazine" ran an article re the fifteen billion year-theory' about 10 years ago. Many reports have been given on T.V. dating the earth as eight plus billion years.)

Any comments? Thanks. Bobbye


sapphire630 answered on 07/03/05:

I agree with not knowing how the earth can be dated by Gen 1:1. I believe it could be possible for the earth to be older than the beginning of the Bible creation story; but I do not believe any of the evolution and carbon dating things are accurate. I have heard too many stories such as the one Aton said where the science messes with things to make the results look the way they want it to. Carbon dating has been proven to be most often inaccurate under various circumstances.

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arcura asked on 06/30/05 - Have a happy and thankful Independent's Day.

THE PRICE THEY PAID
Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence?

Five signers were captured by the British as traitors and tortured before they died.

Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned.

Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army, another had two sons captured.

Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War.

They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.

What kind of men were they?

Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured.

Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.

Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.

Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.

At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.

Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.

John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year, he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later, he died from exhaustion and a broken heart.

Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates.

Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not wild-eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more.

Standing talk straight, and unwavering, they pledged: "For the support of this declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of the divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."

They gave you and me a free and independent America. The history books never told you a lot about what happened in the Revolutionary War. We didn't fight just the British. We were British subjects at that time and we fought our own government!

Some of us take these liberties so much for granted, but we shouldn't.

So, take a few minutes while enjoying your 4th of July Holiday and silently thank these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price they paid. Remember: Freedom is never free!
Happy 4th of July!
Fred

sapphire630 answered on 07/03/05:

Definitely my favorite day of the year. Watch the Pittsburgh fireworks and you might see me cause I am definitely going this year!

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ATON2 asked on 06/29/05 - AVE ATQUE, but NOT VALE :)
Not a question: just a quick greeting to my dysfunctional cyber family

Missed you ALL...Too much personal stuff going on to explain. Will be posting sporadically...with new guidelines. No private postings (too much intrigue there, already). No more free rides...answers will be rated strictly on content, not INTENT!!! (EVEN IF I LIKE YOU) :) :) :)
Fair warning: Though I still abhor censorship, I will use the abuse button more frequently...and leave it up to answerway to keep the site clean!!!!!
Now!!! Can we get back to trying to EXPLAIN the ins and outs of Christianity...or do we persist in Anti-Mormon, Anti-Muslim, Anti-EVERYTHING that is NOT fundamentalist Christianity..rabble rousing??????? And for the sake of the Creator...NO MORE about Terry Schiavo or Michael Jackson!!!!!! That has become BORING to the point of Petrification!!!!!

"Once more into the breach...." and devil take the hindmost (whatever THAT means) :)

sapphire630 answered on 06/30/05:

oops...I see I already botched up with ya

:)

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Choux asked on 06/27/05 - Comet

"Not all dazzling fireworks displays will be on Earth this Independence Day. NASA hopes to shoot off its own celestial sparks in an audacious mission that will blast a stadium-sized hole in a comet half the size of Manhattan. It would give astronomers their first peek at the inside of one of these heavenly bodies.

If all goes as planned, the Deep Impact spacecraft will release a wine barrel-sized probe on a suicide journey, hurtling toward the comet Tempel 1 — about 80 million miles away from Earth at the time of impact".

Comments?

Mary Sue - can cut and paste, after all!

sapphire630 answered on 06/27/05:

I hope I ain't bunjee jumpin' above the atmosphere near there.

Excuse me while I go sit on the moon with my big baffoon and watch all the loons.

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hOPE12 asked on 06/27/05 - What would you do?



Hello Everyone,

There are many different religions in this world, but if confronted with a situation where there was one person from each religion in a cell and you were told you needed to renounce you religion or be killed.

What would you personally do?
Would you be alive or dead?
What principles would help you make your choice?

Take care,
Hope12

sapphire630 answered on 06/27/05:

Exactly who is supposedly going to kill all these people in this cell? I think Choux is onto something here! Maybe the cell would unite and over take them.

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Choux asked on 06/27/05 - Is this Immoral?

Boffins create zombie dogs
By Nick Buchan of NEWS.com.au
June 27, 2005
From:

Zombie dog
Eerie ... boffins have brought dead dogs back to life, in the name of science.
Advertisement:

SCIENTISTS have created eerie zombie dogs, reanimating the canines after several hours of clinical death in attempts to develop suspended animation for humans.
US scientists have succeeded in reviving the dogs after three hours of clinical death, paving the way for trials on humans within years.

Pittsburgh's Safar Centre for Resuscitation Research has developed a technique in which subject's veins are drained of blood and filled with an ice-cold salt solution.

The animals are considered scientifically dead, as they stop breathing and have no heartbeat or brain activity.

But three hours later, their blood is replaced and the zombie dogs are brought back to life with an electric shock.

Plans to test the technique on humans should be realised within a year, according to the Safar Centre.

However rather than sending people to sleep for years, then bringing them back to life to benefit from medical advances, the boffins would be happy to keep people in this state for just a few hours,

But even a this should be enough to save lives such as battlefield casualties and victims of stabbings or gunshot wounds, who have suffered huge blood loss.

Duing the procedure blood is replaced with saline solution at a few degrees above zero. The dogs' body temperature drops to only 7C, compared with the usual 37C, inducing a state of hypothermia before death.

Although the animals are clinically dead, their tissues and organs are perfectly preserved.

Damaged blood vessels and tissues can then be repaired via surgery. The dogs are brought back to life by returning the blood to their bodies,giving them 100 per cent oxygen and applying electric shocks to restart their hearts.

Tests show they are perfectly normal, with no brain damage.

"The results are stunning. I think in 10 years we will be able to prevent death in a certain segment of those using this technology," said one US battlefield doctor."

What say you?

sapphire630 answered on 06/27/05:

That sounds totally morbid. What gets me...we kill unborn babies yet we want to make life from the dead....
MORBID!

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Choux asked on 06/25/05 - Real Christians versus freethinker

Will these discussions/debates take place soon? I, for one, am looking forward to some challenging ideas to mull over.

sapphire630 answered on 06/26/05:

mytfine & Krew have it right
Free~con~oclast is busy talking it over with himself

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arcura asked on 06/26/05 - Regarding the recent taking of people's homes....

"Liberal" Justices Turn Back Clock ... To the Year 1215
Thomas M. Sipos
You no longer own your own home or have the right to buy one. This is due to an amendment to the U.S. Constitution, approved June 23.
No, this amendment didn't pass both houses of Congress and three fourths of the state legislatures, in what is whimsically termed "the amendment process." Rather, our Constitution was amended in the usual way, by judicial fiat. In essence, five Supreme Court justices -- John Stevens, David Souter, Ruth Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer, Anthony Kennedy -- voted that you no longer own your own home.

sapphire630 answered on 06/26/05:

I think it is time to eminent domain the Kennedy compound, Bill Gates mansion, maybe even Teresa Heinz Kerry's Foxchapel 'farm',
we could also take Donald Trump's place,
...oh and how about the Clinton's 'homes'?

Excuse me while I go find a bridge to live under....down south

Linda
Trinity Bridge
Wallisville, Texas

sounds good to me

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CeeBee2 asked on 06/24/05 - Our Founding Fathers.............................

Consider this:

If the Founding Fathers were good and true Christians, there would never have been an American Revolution.

I Sam. 15:23: For rebellion as is the sin of witchcraft.

1 Peter 2:13: For the Lord's sake accept the authority of every human institution, whether of the emperor as supreme, or of governors, as sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to praise those who do right.

Romans 13:1: Let every person be subject to the governing authorities; for there is no authority except from God, and those authorities that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resist authority resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.

None of the Founding Fathers were atheists, but many had little use for Christianity, were even strongly opposed to it. They were men of The Enlightenment, were Deists who did not accept the teachings of the Bible and of Christianity.

The writers of the Constitution wanted to be sure that there would never be an official U.S. religion. The Constitution never mentions religion except to exclude. The Constitution never uses the words Jesus Christ, Christianity, Bible, and God.

Despite what you were taught or wish to believe, the Constitution was not written by Christian men to establish a Christian nation.

Can you prove otherwise, say, for instance, quotes to the contrary from any of the Founding Fathers?

sapphire630 answered on 06/26/05:

You are right their purpose was to make sure one religion was never established...but their intent was for people to be free to worship as they individually believed; not for our nation to be free from religion.

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Saladin asked on 06/25/05 - Billy Graham Says He Never Turned Bush's Life Around

Recent claims have made Rev Graham responsible for changing Bush's life, but Billy Says "He Never Turned Bush's Life Around"

Friday night at the Rose Bowl, more than 2,000 people came forward to accept the Rev. Billy Graham's invitation to turn over their lives to Jesus Christ. That's something the president says he did during a now-famous talk with Graham, at a time when drinking and carousing threatened to lead George W. Bush astray.

When asked about it by NBC's Brian Williams, he said, "I've heard others say that, and people have written it, but I cannot say that.

I was with him and I used to teach the Bible at Kennebunkport to the Bush family when he was a younger man, but I never feel that I in any way turned his life around."

Read the entire story here:
Southerner Daily News
http://www.southerner.net/blog/

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:)

Interesting?

sapphire630 answered on 06/26/05:

wonder if he says the same thing about Clinton. He praised Clinton the other night... and didn't even mention if he condones his cheatin' ways or not!

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excon asked on 06/26/05 - Marijuana


Hello Christians:

I was relieved to see a photo of a federal agent carrying out a bundle of pot from one of three medical marijuana clinics raided in San Francisco on Thursday. Did you see it? Not only was that pot headed for the sick, who have no right to a cheap and effective medicine for the symptoms of AIDS, but some of them were homosexuals. Can you believe it? That’s a lethal combination (faggots and drugs) that could make them become dangerous. After all, Bush’s drug czar likened marijuana to crack and heroine in testimony before the Supreme Court, and with his scientific background, he should know.

I was further relieved to learn that the nationwide trade in cocaine, meth and heroine must be under control if agents have the time to devote to medical pot.

Are you as relieved as me?

excon

sapphire630 answered on 06/26/05:

gee, you mean they finally did something other than harrass people for not wearing their seatbelts, or driving in the passing lane 'for too long' and all that minor stuff that 'normal' people like me do?

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arcura asked on 06/24/05 - The latest Red Neck joke is..........................

The latest ploy to defeat the Iraqi Terrorists is to send in a team of Alabama
Special Forces.
Billy Bob, Butch, Bubba, Boo Boo, Scooter, Slick, Tex and Cooter are
being sent in with their 1968 Ford four wheel drive pickup trucks.
They will be given only the following information about the enemy:
1. There is no limit.
2. The season opened last weekend.
3. They taste like chicken.
4. They don't like women, beer, pickup trucks, country music, barbecue
or Jesus.
5. They were responsible for Dale Earnhardt's death.

It should be over in about a week.

sapphire630 answered on 06/24/05:

I think that will beat the middle age women should capture Bin Laden that me and cookie wrote!

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FormerJesusHelper76 asked on 06/24/05 - A New Life!

How do you feel about bringing in a new life into todays world. Do you think things in society will get better or only get worse. It is very important how the child is raised and where and how. What factors do you think will effect a child.

Thank you in advance!

Joe

sapphire630 answered on 06/24/05:

The main problem I see with parents nowadays is they ignore their kids and assume they will not turn to drugs etc....
I see middle class parents too busy working to buy their kids 'nice' things and poor parents too busy partying.

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tomder55 asked on 06/23/05 - What more evidence do you need ? The Supremes are out of control.

Today the Supreme Court ruled that it is permissable for local governments to seize your property ;your home if a Walmart want to expand.

Thursday's 5-4 ruling represented a defeat for some Connecticut residents whose homes are slated for destruction to make room for an office complex. They argued that cities have no right to take their land except for projects with a clear public use, such as roads or schools, or to revitalize blighted areas.

As a result, cities now have wide power to bulldoze residences for projects such as shopping malls and hotel complexes in order to generate tax revenue.

Local officials, not federal judges, know best in deciding whether a development project will benefit the community, justices said.

"The city has carefully formulated an economic development that it believes will provide appreciable benefits to the community, including - but by no means limited to - new jobs and increased tax revenue," Justice John Paul Stevens wrote for the majority.

He was joined by Justice Anthony Kennedy, David H. Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen G. Breyer.

At issue was the scope of the Fifth Amendment, which allows governments to take private property through eminent domain if the land is for "public use."


Hello !!!! PUBLIC USE !!!!

I am speechless .

sapphire630 answered on 06/23/05:

I think eminent domain has turned into something terribly wrong just like many other things the government and different groups have twisted to their own purposes.
I was just listening on the radio about how they are taking a bunch of really rich homes along the California seacost and giving them to private contractors so they can build UGLY looking condos.
Eminent domain's original purpose was for roads and necessities. Then they decided to use it for run down areas. Now they are using it against even the rich.
Where will it stop?

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Saladin asked on 06/23/05 - New law required to make the USA a safer place ...

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Some comparisons:

*Doctors:

(A) The number of doctors in the U.S. is 700,000

(B) Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year are 120,000

(C) Accidental deaths per physician is 17.14%

*Statistics courtesy of the U.S Dept of Health & Human Services

**Guns:

(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000 (yes that's 80 million)

(B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500

(C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is 0.001875%

**(Statistics courtesy of the FBI)

Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

Remember, guns don't kill people, doctors do!

FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR.

Please alert your friends to this alarming threat. We must ban doctors before this gets completely out of hand!!!

Nota bene: Out of concern for the safety of the public at large, I have withheld statistics on lawyers for fear the shock would cause people to panic and seek medical help!

Do we need a Doctor Law?

:)

Saladin - .45 semi-auto

sapphire630 answered on 06/23/05:

The number of cases where doctors left surgical instruments and sponges in people is unbelievable. Also many are contracting virus' and menengitis from unsanitary hospitals.
Doctors have too many people hooked on prescription drugs that do not need to be.
Not to mention all the negative side affects of many of the drugs.
I have to be desparate to go to the doctors. I mostly take herbal remedies and vitamins & minerals.
Also, they could treat people to cure cancer and many things, but then they would not be making the money they make hooking people on drugs. I put my dog into remission from cancer and I know people that take the same things I gave her and they swear by it.

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arcura asked on 06/23/05 - Question: How do you get the ACLU to stop........

defending terrorists?
One Answer is: Tell the that the terrorists are Boy Scouts.
Do you have another?
Fred

sapphire630 answered on 06/23/05:

There is a Christian organization that fights the ACLU's messed up interpretation of the law. I forget the name of it. It is 4 letters, similiar to ACLU and starts with A.
(I think it is something like ALCJ)

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paraclete asked on 06/20/05 - Let's get real here

Who do you think bears responsibility for the acts of Clergy? Only the clergy, or does the church to whom they belong also bear the responsibility for their wrongfull acts?

We have seen recently some weirdo backwoods priest crucify a nun, but is this really any different than a priest who mollests a child, etc etc etc.

I'm not saying that the church is necessarily responsible for the failings of their ordinary members but those they place in a position of trust is something else. But if those people deliberately do or are encourgaged to do something unlawfull where does the responsibility lie.

sapphire630 answered on 06/20/05:

I agree with Tomder cover-ups, enablers and denials.

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arcura asked on 06/20/05 - Do you think that Richard Lamm is correct about this?

I HAVE A PLAN TO DESTROY AMERICA
RICHARD D. LAMM
(Note: Richard D. Lamm was a Democrat who served as governor of Colorado for twelve years from 1975 to 1987.)………………………………………………………………………...

I HAVE A SECRET PLAN TO DESTROY AMERICA. IF YOU BELIEVE, AS MANY DO, THAT AMERICA IS TOO SMUG, TOO WHITE BREAD, TOO SELF-SATISFIED, TOO RICH, LETS DESTROY AMERICA. IT IS NOT THAT HARD TO DO. HISTORY SHOWS THAT NATIONS ARE MORE FRAGILE THAN THEIR CITIZENS THINK. NO NATION IN HISTORY HAS SURVIVED THE RAVAGES OF TIME. ARNOLD TOYNBEE OBSERVED THAT ALL GREAT CIVILIZATIONS RISE AND THEY ALL FALL, AND THAT "AN AUTOPSY OF HISTORY WOULD SHOW THAT ALL GREAT NATIONS COMMIT SUICIDE." HERE IS MY PLAN:

I. WE MUST FIRST MAKE AMERICA A BILINGUAL-BICULTURAL COUNTRY. HISTORY SHOWS, IN MY OPINION, THAT NO NATION CAN SURVIVE THE TENSION, CONFLICT, AND ANTAGONISM OF TWO COMPETING LANGUAGES AND CULTURES. IT IS A BLESSING FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO BE BILINGUAL; IT IS A CURSE FOR A SOCIETY TO BE BILINGUAL. ONE SCHOLAR, SEYMOUR MARTIN LIPSET, PUT IT THIS WAY:
THE HISTORIES OF BILINGUAL AND BICULTURAL SOCIETIES THAT DO NOT ASSIMILATE ARE HISTORIES OF TURMOIL, TENSION, AND TRAGEDY. CANADA, BELGIUM, MALAYSIA, LEBANON-ALL FACE CRISES OF NATIONAL EXISTENCE IN WHICH MINORITIES PRESS FOR AUTONOMY, IF NOT INDEPENDENCE. PAKISTAN AND CYPRUS HAVE DIVIDED. NIGERIA SUPPRESSED AN ETHNIC REBELLION. FRANCE FACES DIFFICULTIES WITH ITS BASQUES, BRETONS, AND CORSICANS.
II. I WOULD THEN INVENT "MULTICULTURALISM" AND ENCOURAGE IMMIGRANTS TO MAINTAIN THEIR OWN CULTURE. I WOULD MAKE IT AN ARTICLE OF BELIEF THAT ALL CULTURES ARE EQUAL: THAT THERE ARE NO CULTURAL DIFFERENCES THAT ARE IMPORTANT. I WOULD DECLARE IT AN ARTICLE OF FAITH THAT THE BLACK AND HISPANIC DROPOUT RATE IS ONLY DUE TO PREJUDICE AND DISCRIMINATION BY THE MAJORITY. EVERY OTHER EXPLANATION IS OUT-OF-BOUNDS.

III. WE CAN MAKE THE UNITED STATES A "HISPANIC QUEBEC" WITHOUT MUCH EFFORT. THE KEY IS TO CELEBRATE DIVERSITY RATHER THAN UNITY. AS BENJAMIN SCHWARZ SAID IN THE ATLANTIC MONTHLY RECENTLY:
...THE APPARENT SUCCESS OF OUR OWN MULTIETHNIC AND MULTICULTURAL EXPERIMENT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ACHIEVED NOT BY TOLERANCE BUT BY HEGEMONY. WITHOUT THE DOMINANCE THAT ONCE DICTATED ETHNOCENTRICALLY, AND WHAT IT MEANT TO BE AN AMERICAN, WE ARE LEFT WITH ONLY TOLERANCE AND PLURALISM TO HOLD US TOGETHER.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL IMMIGRANTS TO KEEP THEIR OWN LANGUAGE AND CULTURE. I WOULD REPLACE THE MELTING POT METAPHOR WITH A SALAD BOWL METAPHOR. IT IS IMPORTANT TO INSURE THAT WE HAVE VARIOUS CULTURAL SUB-GROUPS LIVING IN AMERICA REINFORCING THEIR DIFFERENCES RATHER THAN AMERICANS, EMPHASIZING THEIR SIMILARITIES.

IV. HAVING DONE ALL THIS, I WOULD MAKE OUR FASTEST GROWING DEMOGRAPHIC GROUP THE LEAST EDUCATED - I WOULD ADD A SECOND UNDERCLASS, UNASSIMILATED, UNDEREDUCATED, AND ANTAGONISTIC TO OUR POPULATION. I WOULD HAVE THIS SECOND UNDERCLASS HAVE A 50% DROP OUT RATE FROM SCHOOL.

V. I WOULD THEN GET THE BIG FOUNDATIONS AND BIG BUSINESS TO GIVE THESE EFFORTS LOTS OF MONEY. I WOULD INVEST IN ETHNIC IDENTITY, AND I WOULD ESTABLISH THE CULT OF VICTIMOLOGY. I WOULD GET ALL MINORITIES TO THINK THEIR LACK OF SUCCESS WAS ALL THE FAULT OF THE MAJORITY - I WOULD START A GRIEVANCE INDUSTRY BLAMING ALL MINORITY FAILURE ON THE MAJORITY POPULATION.

VI. I WOULD ESTABLISH DUAL CITIZENSHIP AND PROMOTE DIVIDED LOYALTIES. I WOULD "CELEBRATE DIVERSITY." "DIVERSITY" IS A WONDERFULLY SEDUCTIVE WORD. IT STRESSES DIFFERENCES RATHER THAN COMMONALITIES. DIVERSE PEOPLE WORLDWIDE ARE MOSTLY ENGAGED IN HATING EACH OTHER-THAT IS, WHEN THEY ARE NOT KILLING EACH OTHER. A DIVERSE," PEACEFUL, OR STABLE SOCIETY IS AGAINST MOST HISTORICAL PRECEDENT. PEOPLE UNDERVALUE THE UNITY IT TAKES TO KEEP A NATION TOGETHER, AND WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS MYOPIA. LOOK AT THE ANCIENT GREEKS. DORF'S WORLD HISTORY TELLS US:
THE GREEKS BELIEVED THAT THEY BELONGED TO THE SAME RACE; THEY POSSESSED A COMMON LANGUAGE AND LITERATURE; AND THEY WORSHIPED THE SAME GODS. ALL GREECE TOOK PART IN THE OLYMPIC GAMES IN HONOR OF ZEUS AND ALL GREEKS VENERATED THE SHRINE OF APOLLO AT DELPHI. A COMMON ENEMY PERSIA THREATENED THEIR LIBERTY. YET, ALL OF THESE BONDS TOGETHER WERE NOT STRONG ENOUGH TO OVERCOME TWO FACTORS . . . (LOCAL PATRIOTISM AND GEOGRAPHICAL CONDITIONS THAT NURTURED POLITICAL DIVISIONS . . .)
IF WE CAN PUT THE EMPHASIS ON THE "PLURIBUS," INSTEAD OF THE "UNUM," WE CAN BALKANIZE AMERICA AS SURELY AS KOSOVO.

VII. THEN I WOULD PLACE ALL THESE SUBJECTS OFF LIMITS - MAKE IT TABOO TO TALK ABOUT. I WOULD FIND A WORD SIMILAR TO "HERETIC" IN THE 16TH CENTURY - THAT STOPPED DISCUSSION AND PARALYZED THINKING. WORDS LIKE "RACIST", "XENOPHOBE" THAT HALTS ARGUMENT AND CONVERSATION.

HAVING MADE AMERICA A BILINGUAL-BICULTURAL COUNTRY, HAVING ESTABLISHED MULTICULTURALISM, HAVING THE LARGE FOUNDATIONS FUND THE DOCTRINE OF "VICTIMOLOGY", I WOULD NEXT MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO ENFORCE OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS. I WOULD DEVELOP A MANTRA - "THAT BECAUSE IMMIGRATION HAS BEEN GOOD FOR AMERICA, IT MUST ALWAYS BE GOOD." I WOULD MAKE EVERY INDIVIDUAL IMMIGRANT SYMPATRIC AND IGNORE THE CUMULATIVE IMPACT.
VIII. LASTLY, I WOULD CENSOR Victor Davis Hanson’s BOOK MEXIFORNIA — THIS BOOK IS DANGEROUS — IT EXPOSES MY PLAN TO DESTROY AMERICA. SO PLEASE, PLEASE — IF YOU FEEL THAT AMERICA DESERVES TO BE DESTROYED — PLEASE, PLEASE — DON'T BUY THIS BOOK! THIS GUY IS ON TO MY PLAN.
"THE SMART WAY TO KEEP PEOPLE PASSIVE AND OBEDIENT IS TO STRICTLY LIMIT THE SPECTRUM OF ACCEPTABLE OPINION, BUT ALLOW VERY LIVELY DEBATE WITHIN THAT SPECTRUM." — NOAM CHOMSKY, AMERICAN LINGUIST AND US MEDIA AND FOREIGN POLICY CRITIC.
Snopes last updated: 16 June 2005

sapphire630 answered on 06/20/05:

This left a lot more out---dumbing down America by keeping them entertained, side-tracked and only giving them what they want them to hear (liberal's half truths) Revising history, etc....

Telling them the Patriot Act, National
I. D. cards, GPS and other such devices are for THEIR benefit while having an alterior hidden agenda.


"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

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arcura asked on 06/19/05 - What is your theoloical comments about ..........

Sunday's gospel reading?
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(Mt 10:26-33): Jesus said to his apostles: «Do not be afraid. There is nothing covered that will not be uncovered, and nothing hidden that will not be made known. What I am telling you in the dark, you must speak in the light. What you hear in private, proclaim from the housetops.

»Do not be afraid of those who kill the body, but have no power to kill the soul. Rather be afraid of him who can destroy both body and soul in hell. For only a few cents you can buy two sparrows, yet not one sparrow falls to the ground without your Father's consent. As for you, every hair of your head has been counted.

»So do not be afraid: you are worth much more than many sparrows. Whoever acknowledges me before others I will acknowledge before my Father in heaven. Whoever rejects me before others I will reject before my Father in heaven».

sapphire630 answered on 06/20/05:

Basically that the wealthy people who get away with murder will have their day; so the people who are sh*t on should have inner strength to endure.

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Itsdb asked on 06/20/05 - The "Greatest American"

Sunday, June 26th, the Discovery Channel will be announcing the winner of the "Greatest American" event.

The top 5 nominees and corresponding toll free voting number are:

Benjamin Franklin
1-866-669-3101

Martin Luther King Jr.
1-866-669-3102

Abraham Lincoln
1-866-669-3103

Ronald Reagan
1-866-669-3104

George Washington
1-866-669-3105

To make your selection online from among the top 5 go here.

For the fun part, who would you choose as the 5 most ridiculous choices to make the top 100?

My pick for most ridiculous choices (and there are so many):

Tom Cruise
Hugh Hefner
Madonna
Michael Jackson
Joseph Smith

And yours? Anyone left off the list that you would add?

sapphire630 answered on 06/20/05:

O.J. but I guess he is stuck on a Florida golf course looking for Nicole's "real" killers






Tom Cruise! what is sooo ridiculous about Tom Cruise...I was planning on voting for him!

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arcura asked on 06/20/05 - Primary school kids can be very sharp.................

Hillary Clinton goes to a primary school in New York to talk about the world. After her talk, she has a "question and answer" period. One little boy raises his hand and the Senator asks him for his name.
"Kenneth."
"And what is your question, Kenneth?"
"I have three questions: First, whatever happened to your medical health care plan? Second, why would you run for President after your husband shamed the office? And third, whatever happened to all those things you took when you left the White House?"
Just then the bell rings for recess. Hillary Clinton informs the children that they will continue after recess.
When they resume Hillary says, "Okay where were we? Oh, that's right, question time. Who has a question?" A different little boy puts his hand up. Hillary points to him and asks him for his name.
“Larry."
"And what is your question, Larry?"
"I have five questions: First, whatever happened to your medical health care plan? Second, why would you run for President after your husband shamed the office? Third, whatever happened to all those things you took when you left the White House? Fourth, why did the recess bell go off 20 minutes early? And fifth, what happened to Kenneth?"

sapphire630 answered on 06/20/05:

They definitely need to grow up to take Dan Rather's place!

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Choux asked on 06/19/05 - Jesus Taught Us

to love our neighbors. Could he possibly have believed in moral absolutes? Anything absolute?

All the people here who believe in moral absolutes only like to judge people and get sanctimonious, stereotype and condemn, don't they? Don't they, Gade?

What do you think?

sapphire630 answered on 06/19/05:

The problem is that our idea of moral absolutes isn't attained or reflective of God's true absolutes.
It is the same as the way I see perfectionists. They are perfect in their own eyes; even though most can see an easier or better way to achieve the same thing. Therefore they are only right(-eous)in their own eyes!

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tomder55 asked on 06/17/05 - I wonder

If Terri Schiavo had been dehydrated to death at the Guantanamo Bay detention camp,would Dick Durbin read her autopsy report from the Senate floor ?

sapphire630 answered on 06/19/05:

I feel deprived once again!!! They had all kinds of shows put on for them (and didn't even appreciate it)
They are fed better than me and treated better than me!
Me thinkeths something stinkeths and it ain't their treatment!

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lucpi asked on 06/19/05 - Is this madness?

A Romanian Orthodox priest who ordered the crucifixion of a young nun because she was "possessed by the devil" and now faces murder charges was unrepentant as he celebrated a funeral mass for his alleged victim.
"God has performed a miracle for her, finally Irina is delivered from evil,"said Father Daniel,29.
He insisted that from the religious point of view, the crucifixion of Maricica Irina Cornici,23, was "entirely justified", but admitted that he faced excommunication as well as prosecution, and was seeking a "good lawyer".

sapphire630 answered on 06/19/05:

I THINK fATHER dANIEL IS THE ONE THAT NEEDS PUT OUT OF HIS MISERY!

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FormerJesusHelper76 asked on 06/14/05 - O.J. Simpson?

All those who think the police lie and cover up things. Who here believes that O.J. is innocent and give the reasons why? As well the ones who believe O.J. is guilty and give the reasons why?

Thank you in advance!

Joe

sapphire630 answered on 06/16/05:

That was so botched that I really don't know but guess he did do it or have it done...just like Robert Blake.
The thing that really got me was he vowed that if it took every last penny and the rest of his life he was going to find the ones that did kill Nicole. I DO NOT think the real killerS are on a Florida golf course or anywhere else he spends all his time at! I suppose he doesn't waste his time because he did find the killer----in the mirror.....

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FormerJesusHelper76 asked on 06/14/05 - Micheal Jackson?

Who here believes Jackson is guilty and who thinks he is innocent. Please give your reasons why you feel that way.

Joe

sapphire630 answered on 06/16/05:

I do not think he should have got off totally free. I am sure he is guilty of some stuff. He should have at least got corruption of a minor.
I heard he has a long hallway to his bedroom and there is an alarm or something to alert him if someone is coming toward the room. That is enough to make me think he is guilty of something. Then he says something about who wouldn't take a child that needs love in and let them sleep with them, your own or "someone elses". I would never feel comfortable letting "someone else" 'sleep' with my kid and be left to wonder what is going on behind closed doors!

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Choux asked on 06/14/05 - Lesson from Michael Jackson Verdict

Yesterday, I spent some time listening to the Jurors talking about how they reached verdicts on all the counts in the Michael Jackson child molestation trial.

One woman said that she couldn't believe that a woman would do that to her child.

Two women didn't like the fact that the Mother of the molested kid looked directly at them during her testimony and snapped her fingers at the jury.

The man who was the foreman didn't really say anything at all directly on subject to the questions asked of him.

All these people were adults, and they really couldn't think straight. They couldn't focus on one fact and REASON through the arguments on each side, and reach their decision based on the facts!

It is very important that Americans learn how to think straight. What an embarrassment.

sapphire630 answered on 06/16/05:

I have yet to see a Hollywood celebratity convicted of anything serious since O.J. Robert Blake, now Micheal. The jury didn't like the mother's attitude, lies, and, I think, they thought she should have been on trial just as much (or more so) Micheal.
Well they will probably throw the book at Phil Spector.

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Liz22 asked on 06/13/05 - Is going on the Internet wrong?

Please help me out here, my Sister whom I love Dearly has told me tonight that as a Jehovah Witness they are not allowed to go on the internet, but she has a PC and just called for my e-mail address.

I confided in her that I know two on here that are dedicated, and she told me to beware because they are probably Dis fellowship
Is this true? Plus I know for a fact they are on Pal-Talk, my Sister is always right so I feel intimidity and worthless for I am always wrong in her eyes, Perhaps she is right? Can Jehovah Witness's go on the Internet if not why is it wrong?

Thank you,

sapphire630 answered on 06/13/05:

Just like a knife, it depends how you use it.
Nobody can say it is wrong to go on the internet...they are not the Holy Spirit!
If it weren't for the internet we here would not have had the opportunity to have gotten acquainted so it can be used as a blessing as well as being used for scams, porn, etc....
GOD Bless you and your internet use

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Choux asked on 06/13/05 - School Boards

Since when can't local school boards/school district officials decide on the curriculum of their local schools?? Maybe I'm missing something here.

Doesn't the Federal Government decide whether a state gets matching funds; schools *must teach* the three R's. math, English, Social Studies and science and **local** school can decide the rest of the curricula such as art, phys ed, whatever?

When I was in school, art was "required" Physical education was required!!

Why can't a *local* school district require Black History when the majority of students are Black??? American history covers white people's history!! And, a small amount of history of minorities in Ameridca such as Latimos, Native Americans, Irish, Italians, Chinese, Polish, etc....


I smell folks who want to keep the Black man(woman) down!

sapphire630 answered on 06/13/05:

The problem is many schools are making these their main criteria over the 3 R's and many kids are graduating not knowing the english language, history and many can hardly read.
Also, they are making it a madatory class rather than an elective.
Also, why do they want to make a whole course on Black history? Why not the native American? I think they went through as much, even more than the black race.
They should cover each and every ethnic group. Over a 9 month period they should be able to give equal coverage to Native American, Asian, African, Hispanic, etc,

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tarot10 asked on 06/13/05 - Psychologist/psychiatrist involved

Did anyone hear whether any psycholigists or psychiatrists were involved in testifying on behalf of the plaintiff in the Michael Jackson case?

sapphire630 answered on 06/13/05:

I think their main goal and issue they focused on was, as in most cases, the burden of PROOF; not circumstantial 'he said, she said.'
I think the whole thing became a 3 ring circus. They had all those 'celebraties' testifying and the issue was nothing to do if Leno and others thought Micheal Jackson was a great guy. I know child molesters that child protective services will not go after for anything in the world and they can get a lot of people to say they think they are a swell guy from what they know of them. Look at the priests I doubt many questioned their character.

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tarot10 asked on 06/13/05 - What should happen to parents in the future?

What should happen to parents in the future who let their children sleep over at Michael Jackson's House?

My question is also posed to those who support the Registry of sexual abusers and rapists?

What good does it do to be warned that someone might be a child abuser or a rapist, or a killer?

What kind of parent allows his children to spend the night at some grown man's house anyway? And a man who might be a child molester?


I heard that the prosecution has been eyeing Michael Jackson carefully for the past 10 years. They have been trying very hard to get him.

We appear to be a society of blamers and not of people who take responsibility.

sapphire630 answered on 06/13/05:

Exactly! How can a parent allow their child to be in a suspicious situation and then turn around and sue for what they allowed to happen even PUT in that situation?

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hOPE12 asked on 06/13/05 - Ask yourself, 'Am I truly a follower of Christ?'

Hello Everyone,

1) In the light of Galatians 5:16-26 how must we view the way one uses his power of speech?
2) Does the way we speak to and about others show whether or not we are truly followers of Christ?

Galatians 5:16-26

“6 But I say, Keep walking by spirit and YOU will carry out no fleshly desire at all. 17 For the flesh is against the spirit in its desire, and the spirit against the flesh; for these are opposed to each other, so that the very things that YOU would like to do YOU do not do. 18 Furthermore, if YOU are being led by spirit, YOU are not under law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, and they are fornication, uncleanness, loose conduct, 20 idolatry, practice of spiritism, enmities, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, contentions, divisions, sects, 21 envies, drunken bouts, revelries, and things like these. As to these things I am forewarning YOU, the same way as I did forewarn YOU, that those who practice such things will not inherit God’s kingdom.
22 On the other hand, the fruitage of the spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faith, 23 mildness, self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Moreover, those who belong to Christ Jesus impaled the flesh together with its passions and desires.
25 If we are living by spirit, let us go on walking orderly also by spirit. 26 Let us not become egotistical, stirring up competition with one another, envying one another.”

Take care,
Hope12

sapphire630 answered on 06/13/05:

Like Tarot said carbon copies (I call them cookie cut) are not what God wants. Look how many times in the Bible that God has said he will have mercy on who he will have mercy and who are we to question. In Matthew it says God will say to many 'religious' people, "depart from me, I never knew you!"

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carnitin asked on 06/11/05 - Some facts about Marijuana

Why The US Should Not Legalize Marijuana For Medical Or Recreational Use
Wednesday, March 30, 2005 -by Roger Morgan

Legal Ramifications

Article VI of the United States Constitution states “…This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution of Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding. The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution.” (Form and spelling as originally stated in Article VI, United States Constitution, adopted Sept. 17, 1787).



States that already have passed laws authorizing the possession and distribution of marijuana for medical purposes are in conflict with federal law that prohibits such possession and distribution of this controlled substance.


State legislators, having taken an Oath or Affirmation to support the U.S. Constitution, should carefully consider the ethical and legal considerations for enacting a statue in conflict with the U.S. Constitution.




Marijuana As a Medicine



The Federal Drug Administration (FDA) is the clearing house for drugs in the United States. They employ scientifically validated methods to ascertain the medical efficacy and safety of all new drugs and medical devices submitted for approval. They have not approved smoked marijuana for medical use, but they have approved at least two pharmaceutical forms of cannabinoids, Dronabinol and Nabilone, synthetic versions of the active therapeutic agent, THC, found naturally in botanical marijuana. Both have been approved for a decade or more.



In 1999, at the request of the federal government, the prestigious Institute of Medicine (IOM) conducted a review of medical marijuana. The IOM review concluded that, although marijuana contains substances that appear to provide therapeutic benefits, the risks imposed by the toxic delivery system i.e., smoking, outweigh the benefits. They concluded also that additional research should be undertaken to develop safer and more effective methods for delivering the therapeutic benefits of cannabinoids, such as in pill form. This is fully consistent with the evolution of most drugs which had their humble beginning in a plant or animal species.



No elected official or public servant can ignore the enormous social and health consequences that marijuana use imposes on the people of this country, particularly children, who are much more vulnerable to harm and addiction. Marijuana ranks third, after alcohol-in combination with cocaine, in numbers of persons admitted to hospitals each year as a result of drug-induced acute emergency episodes. Nearly 88,000 of the over 195,000 people in treatment for marijuana are children, and more young people are in treatment for marijuana that any other drug. (2001 CASA study, Shoveling Up, Columbia University).



Smoked marijuana has no medicinal value. Those who promote it to assist desperately ill people reveal their true intent to legalize marijuana for recreational use by opposing the further development of safe and effective cannabinoids-based, laboratory engineered medicines, that would reduce or eliminate the dangerous hallucinogenic side effects of crude marijuana.
There are medicines already on the market that are FDA approved that are considered safe and more effective.



Legislators and public opinion are ill equipped to circumvent medical science. The Pure Food and Drug Act, passed by legislative action in the year 1906, was established as a result of bogus medicines or nostrums purporting to cure just about every illness. Many of these so called medicines contained large amounts of opium, morphine, coca, and/or alcohol. Unregulated testimonials by patients, phony doctors and professors provided spurious claims of cures and false hopes based on the intoxicating effects of these mixtures, and not on their medical efficacy. The same holds true today for those who claim smoked marijuana is a medicine, offering no scientific evidence to support the claim. The FDA has served our country well, evaluating drugs with the best known science, to determine what is and is not an acceptable drug. Legislators and/or public opinion should not circumvent the experts.


Because marijuana is not an FDA-approved drug, it carries no authorized labeling. States that have passed these unconstitutional acts often are unable to prevent physicians from recommending the drug for certain off label uses, such as stress, that are little more than subterfuges for sanctioned recreational use.


Suggesting marijuana has medicinal value sends the wrong message to young people. Perception of harm is a big reason why children do not use drugs. Suggesting marijuana is a medicine implies to young people that it is good, not bad, and therefore encourages its use.


Who Is Pushing For Legalization Anyway?



In all probability, it isn’t people from within the states where the legalization effort is being pushed. The billionaires, which we refer to as the domestic Axis Of Evil, George Soros, Peter Lewis and John Sperling are behind the effort to legalize drugs in this country. The provide a major part of the funding for the Medical Marijuana Project, The Drug Policy Alliance and other organizations whose sole aim is to legalize drugs. Referring to marijuana cigarettes as medicine is a cruel hoax, as it has does not have any medicinal value and causes more harm than good. Promoting smoked marijuana to relieve the pain and suffering of the chronically ill, when there are FDA approved alternatives that don’t cause harm, is a marketing ploy that appeals to the compassion of Americans. In almost all states where medical marijuana has been approved, it has been because of substantial financial investments by the Axis and because of political contributions to legislators. Be careful it doesn’t happen in your state.



The Harmful Effects of Marijuana



Marijuana stifles motivation; retards the maturation process; adversely affects short term memory and one’s ability to learn; enhances the onset of mental illness; is very high in cancer causing agents; adversely affects reproductive organs and has a multitude of other negative physiological effects. The scientific explanations for the effect of marijuana include the following:



Marijuana causes changes in brain chemistry, by hindering the neurotransmitter chemical that triggers various signals throughout the nervous system.


Marijuana alters mood and behavior. It leads to difficulty in concentration, attention to detail and learning. It also impairs true perception as well as short term memory. Recent studies suggest that what people learn while they are using marijuana is forgotten when the person is not using marijuana.


Marijuana increases the work of the heart. The changes in heart rate and blood pressure are the same as those found in a person under high stress.


Marijuana is much higher in tar and carcinogens, and is much more detrimental to the lungs, than tobacco. It has a much more adverse affect on the upper airways (i.e. sinuses and larynx) and can cause lung, head and neck cancer.


Marijuana decreases blood flow to the limbs, which in extreme cases may require amputation.


Marijuana reduces the number and quality of sperm and may damage their mobility, thus adversely affecting fertility.


Marijuana is a carcinogen and adversely affects the immune system. (Which should be of concern to an AIDS patient.)


Marijuana stays in one’s system for up to thirty days, and is a contributing factor to many vehicular accidents caused by drugged driving.


The level of marijuana use by children and adolescents is very alarming, and certainly a barrier to academic achievement in our middle and high schools.



Responsibility To Protect; To Manage Tax Dollars



The federal government has the primary responsibility to protect its citizens from harm, but governments at all levels share that responsibility.



Currently, over 24,000 people die per annum from drug-induced causes, and an approximately 60,000 die from drug-induced and drug related causes. 9.4% of the adult population is drug or alcohol dependent; over 5 million Americans are raising their grandchildren; approximately one-third of high school students use alcohol and drugs regularly; and on the average, states spent $81.3 billion on substance abuse, 99% of which was spent on the aftermath of substance abuse in justice, health care, education, welfare, child/family care and mental health (CASA 2001 Shoveling Up Study), and only 1% on prevention. This is horrible economic policy and leaves the role of States to protect its people unfulfilled.



Almost all problems of substance abuse originate with children and adolescents, 11 to 17 years old, starting with alcohol, tobacco and marijuana. All three are considered gateway drugs, and all three are extremely dangerous in their own right. Approving marijuana for any use will escalate its use by young people, which in turn will escalate the down stream levels of death, destruction and economic.




sapphire630 answered on 06/12/05:

I think so many (people) (potheads) are for this because they figure it is the first step to legalizing it for them. They also seem to think medical marijuana is their smoking version and not merinol (pill form).
I heard that marijuana increases red blood cells and decreases white which is the opposite of what an ill person needs.
The only people I think should have medical marijuana are terminally ill, ready to die that have exhausted all other hopes AND are about down to the choice between the morphine drip and their last breath.
A friend of mine had medical marijuana because his pain was so bad even with all kinds of other pain killers. It was the only way he could function half way normally.

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arcura asked on 06/10/05 - What is the Goal of the ACLU??????.....................

What is the Goal of the ACLU?
By Jack Ward
June 1, 2005

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) sounds like an organization that protects American values. Many people believe that the ACLU is the nation's guardian of liberty, and great protector of the U.S. Constitution.

Unfortunately, the ACLU was never a promoter, or protector of American values or the Constitution. In fact, ACLU might as well stand for the American Communist Lawyers Union.

The ACLU has created the facade that it is a champion of the oppressed, but it uses the powers of the government to coerce all members of our society into accepting a socialist existence.

Don't believe me, just read what Roger Baldwin, the co-founder of the ACLU said: "I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately, for abolishing the state itself... I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the properties class, and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal. I don't regret being part of the
communist tactic. I knew what I was doing. I was not an innocent liberal. I wanted what the communists wanted, and I traveled the United Front road to get it." In spite of Baldwin's Communist leanings, President Jimmy Carter awarded him the Presidential Medal of Freedom on January 16, 1981.

Baldwin didn't create the ACLU in a vacuum, he had plenty of help. A group of Communist Party officials, fellow travelers, anarchists, and radicals joined Baldwin to found the ACLU in 1920.

Former chairman of the Communist Party USA, William Z. Foster was also an ACLU co-founder. Foster said, "The establishment of an American Soviet government will involve the confiscation of large landed estates in town and country, and also, the whole body of forests, mineral deposits, lakes, rivers, and so on."

The ACLU's official policy statement reveals that the intent of the ACLU (like the Communist Manifesto) is to undermine the moral foundation, and weaken the fabric of our society. For example, according to the ACLU's Policy Guide, the ACLU supports the legalization of all drugs (including "hard" drugs, like crack and PCP), public drunkenness, pornography
(including "kiddie porn"), sexual perversion, (including sodomy, bestiality, pedophilia, and necrophilia), prostitution (including child prostitution), euthanasia, and infanticide.

Policy numbers 62 and 75 reveal that the ACLU is also opposed to a parent's role in educating their children, including home schooling and vouchers. Obviously, they believe the education of our youth is too important to be left to parents.

Policy numbers 239 and 242 state that the ACLU is opposed to the death penalty, even for the most heinous murderers. What is worse, the ACLU demands that all criminals (except murderers) be given suspended sentences, and released back into the community. We already know that most convicted criminals are prone to resume their life of crime, once released from prison.

The ACLU policy of leniency is on display, everyday. These are examples of ACLU Policies that are designed to weaken the fabric of our society.

The ACLU mirrors Lenin's Rules for Revolution. Lenin's rules were revealed after a 1919 raid in Dusseldorf, Germany. The files marked Communist Rules for Revolution, included
corrupt the young, control all means of publicity, divide people into hostile groups, destroy people's faith, preach democracy, but seize power, encourage government extravagance and discontent, foment strikes and civil disorder, breakdown moral values, and create a pretext to control all firearms.

These were Lenin's plans to undermine a society and create chaos, in order to successfully overthrow a government. And all this time, you thought that the ACLU was really concerned with your civil liberties.

Now, you know that the goal of the ACLU was, and continues to be, to promote Communism. Baldwin and his Communist buddies ran the ACLU for thirty years promoting the goals of the Communist Manifesto, and little has changed since he left. While it is true that not all ACLU members or supporters are Communists, all must be sympathetic to the ACLU goals, or they wouldn't be associated with the ACLU.

Once created, the ACLU provided legal protection to Communist
infiltrators in the U.S. Since then, the ACLU has been the legal arm of the Collective Left (Communists, Socialists, Progressives, and Liberals) anarchists, radicals, and members of the Ku Klux Klan and NAMBLA (North American Man Boy Love Association).

Former ACLU Southern California staff attorney, Rees Lloyd is now working to expose the ACLU. Lloyd describes the ACLU as, "the Taliban of American liberal secularism."

I guess that the ACLU's goal must be to create anarchy, and destroy our society.
http://www.eco.freedom.org/el/20050601/ward.shtml

sapphire630 answered on 06/12/05:

ACLU's purpose is to turn America upside down and backwards. They would rather we be gay marxists that paint sacri-religious portraits than anything

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excon asked on 06/11/05 - Black or White


Hello:

If Michael Jackson is convicted, who is gonna riot? Black people, or white?

excon

sapphire630 answered on 06/12/05:

probably the pediphiles!

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Choux asked on 06/09/05 - Please Note

Instead of letting go of previous hostilities, Salad, upon return from vacation, immediately resumed an attack on the great Choux who had no intention of continuing any negative dialogue with him.

Note:: All my putdowns are in response to his direct attacks. No one attacks the great Choux and triumphs! (Note *missing* and *thoroughly defeated* cyber folk who waged verbal war on the magnificent Choux:: ATON and "BRADD")

Resume normal activities.
Cordially,
Choux

sapphire630 answered on 06/09/05:

Not one in a trillion,
get it str8 chewy, Choux IS one in a bzillion!

I guess Saladin had to go on vacation to regroup

Choux, My new line I will let you use:
GO home,
take 2 asprin
AND DO NOT call me in the morning

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Itsdb asked on 06/09/05 - Clearing the environmental air...

For all you who think Bush is an environmental disaster and his sole reason for rejecting Kyoto is to help his business buddies...

Did you know that on July 25, 1997, the United States Senate voted 95-0 to reject the Kyoto protocol as long as "the exemption for Developing Country Parties is inconsistent with the need for global action on climate change and is environmentally flawed"?

"(1) the United States should not be a signatory to any protocol to, or other agreement regarding, the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change of 1992, at negotiations in Kyoto in December 1997, or thereafter, which would--

(A) mandate new commitments to limit or reduce greenhouse gas emissions for the Annex I Parties, unless the protocol or other agreement also mandates new specific scheduled commitments to limit or reduce greenhouse gas emissions for Developing Country Parties within the same compliance period, or

(B) would result in serious harm to the economy of the United States; and

(2) any such protocol or other agreement which would require the advice and consent of the Senate to ratification should be accompanied by a detailed explanation of any legislation or regulatory actions that may be required to implement the protocol or other agreement and should also be accompanied by an analysis of the detailed financial costs and other impacts on the economy of the United States which would be incurred by the implementation of the protocol or other agreement."

I reckon the objection was overwhelming long before Bush arrived at the White House...

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Did you know U.S. "forest area has been stable for nearly a century," and in fact have expanded over the last decade? The 2005 Index of Leading Environmental Indicators reports, "Expanding forestland in both the United States and Europe is important because the trend runs counter to popular perception. The National Report on Sustainable Forestry noted that “Surveys have indicated that Americans often have misperceptions about the current status and trends for forests in the U.S. For example, many think our forests are declining, while in reality the total area of forests nationally has been fairly stable since about 1920 and actually increased slightly between 1990 and 2002. Also, many think we are harvesting more trees than we are growing, while in reality net growth in U.S. forests exceeds removals by a large margin."

Interestingly, it also reports "Relative to the difference in overall land area between the two continents, forestland is growing about four times faster in the United States than in Europe."

Somebody tell Europe they need to plant more trees...

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Did you know air quality in the U.S. is improving?

"Amidst all the sound and fury surrounding national policy toward air pollution, one fact should be kept in mind: 2004 recorded the lowest levels of ozone air pollution in U.S. history...The EPA’s own emissions models project that emissions from the auto fleet will decline by more than 80 percent over the next 25 years."

The Core Air Quality Indicators , reported by the EPA in December 2004:

National Ambient Air Pollution Levels, 1976-2003

Ozone (1-hour standard) -31%
Sulfur Dioxides -72%
Nitrogen Dioxide -42%
Carbon Monoxide -76%
Particulates (PM 10)* -31%
Lead -98%

(*1988-2003) Source: U.S. Environmental Protection Agency

Did you know that Air Quality Indicators in ten of the most polluted areas has improved by 53.9% since 1980, including an 85.1% improvement in Orange County, Ca.?

"Air pollution fell again in the United States, but hot air over the subject continued to increase."

Steven Hayward of the pacific Research Institute "has offered a standing wager of $1,000 that air quality measures in 2009 will be better than in 2001."

Any takers?

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Water quality is still an issue. There is progress but who knows how much since even the EPA admits there are too many variants in monitoring and reporting to establish trends. We do know for instance the Great Lakes have shown "dramatic improvements over the last 30 years" and that wetlands are increasing. But did you know "the U.N.’s 2002 Global Mercury Assessment, more than half of the mercury in the earth’s atmosphere comes from sources in Asia; North America accounts for only nine percent of global mercury emissions."

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By the way Clete, when will Australia get on board with Kyoto? "The clock is ticking. If global industry’s greenhouse gas emissions do not begin to be significantly and rapidly reduced within decades, humanity faces potentially catastrophic consequences. Yet, confronted with the world’s most pressing environmental problem, the Australian government has brazenly thrown its weight (and subsidies) behind the corporate polluters’ efforts to stall the measures necessary to avert the crisis."

I guess I need a question here, so how do they know "Current CO2 levels are the highest for more than 420,000 years"?

Steve

sapphire630 answered on 06/09/05:

Since we have GOOD air quality and we have the global warming maybe the GOOD air quality is responsible for the global warming.

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FormerJesusHelper76 asked on 06/01/05 - Drinking!

What does God say about Drinking? What are you personal thoughts about drinking? Thank you again in advance for your thoughts and opinions.

Joe

sapphire630 answered on 06/02/05:

what the Bible says about drinking
Do things in moderation and do not let them control YOU!
The Bible does not say do not drink; but do not be drunk-or a drunkard!
It also says to be in your right mind, (not an altered one)---something that is hard for druggies to do.

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arcura asked on 06/02/05 - Seriously read through this and.......

tell me what Christian lesson (or lessons) you get from it. That's question 1.
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The following is the philosophy of Charles Schultz, the creator of the "Peanuts" comic strip. You don't have to actually answer the questions. Just read the e-mail straight through and you'll get the point.
1. Name the five wealthiest people in the world.
2. Name the last five Heisman trophy winners.
3. Name the last five winners of the Miss America.
4. Name ten people who have won the Nobel or Pulitzer Prize.
5. Name the last half dozen Academy Award winners for best actor and actress.
6. Name the last decade's worth of World Series winners.
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How did you do?
The point is, none of us remember the headliners of yesterday. These are no second-rate achievers. They are the best in their fields. But the applause dies. Awards tarnish. Achievements are forgotten. Accolades and certificates are buried with their owners.
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Here's another quiz. See how you do on this one:
1. List a few teachers who aided your journey through school.
2. Name three friends who have helped you through a difficult time.
3. Name five people who have taught you something worthwhile.
4. Think of a few people who have made you feel appreciated and special.
5. Think of five people you enjoy spending time with.
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Much Easier!
Now question 2. How often does you association with Jesus Christ bring him to your mine during your day?
Praise God for all that is good and true,
Fred

sapphire630 answered on 06/02/05:

Like I tell little screaming, crying kids:
Come back a few years from now and tell me what you were crying about!

I can't remember where in the Bible it says something about this world growing strangly dim when we go to the after-life.

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Pete_Hanysz asked on 05/31/05 - Just curious:)

Quote from hOPE12

"Any and all who disobey God's laws and principles are part of Christendom. Anyone who does not obey God's laws are part of Christendom or also refered to in the Bible as Babylon the Great"

I need some help on this please.

Pete

sapphire630 answered on 06/01/05:

'The law' says to eat no unclean meat, do not wear clothing that is not 100% pure---> no rayon, nylon or acrylic mix.

If she does not want to partake of this world she better not not only not vote, but also use no money or credit cards, purchasing gas for your vehicle is supporting this world system to some extent----> so NO driving!!!
best yet don't breath!

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Choux asked on 05/28/05 - Deep Depression

I have fallen into a very deep depression. I anticipated being able to read books with my new glasses, and I can't. I was not aware that cataracts disrupted all vision; don't ask me why. Because I have a cataract on my left eye, my vision cannot be corrected enough for me to read or see clearly at any distance (except better at compurter). I'm going to see an opthamologist for help, but of course, I have no resources to get another pair of glasses should I get help from him. Doris, my friend, is working on stuff to see what can be done.

Consequently, I'm taking a vacation from AW until I'm able to function better.

Mary Sue

sapphire630 answered on 06/01/05:

I hear a lot of people glad they had laser surgery for cataracts.

For depression listen to music (like maybe Enya)
do things you like to get you out of depression
and take B-complex.

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arcura asked on 06/01/05 - Subject: Jesus and the Redneck

Jesus and the Redneck


An Irishman in a wheelchair entered a restaurant one afternoon and asked the waitress for a cup of coffee. The Irishman looked across the restaurant and asked, "Is that Jesus sitting over there?" The waitress nodded "Yes," so the Irishman told her to give Jesus a cup of coffee on him. The next patron to come in was an Englishman with a hunched back. He shuffled over to a booth, painfully sat down, and asked the waitress for a cup of hot tea. He also glanced across the restaurant and asked, "Is that Jesus over there?" The waitress nodded, so the Englishman said to give Jesus a cup of hot tea, "My treat." The third patron to come into the restaurant was a Redneck on crutches. He hobbled over to a booth, sat down and hollered, "Hey there, sweet thang. How's about gettin' me a cold glass of Coke!" He, too, looked across the restaurant and asked, "Is that God's boy over there?" The waitress once more nodded, so the Redneck said to give Jesus a cold glass of Coke, "On my bill." As Jesus got up to leave, he passed by the Irishman, touched him and said, "For your kindness, you are healed." The Irishman felt the strength come back into his legs, got up, and danced a jig out the door. Jesus also passed by the Englishman, touched him and said, "For your kindness, you are healed." The Englishman felt his back straightening up, and he raised his hands, praised the Lord and did a series of back flips out the door. Then Jesus walked towards the Redneck. The Redneck jumped up and yelled, ."Don't touch me...I'm drawin' disability!"

sapphire630 answered on 06/01/05:

of course the next step would be to sue--->if Jesus did!

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MaggieB asked on 05/31/05 - Pray for people of Iraq

I am (xing) out the name of this soldier and his parents for safetys sake on the internet. He is a local soldier from my community and very well known.

Tue, May 31, 2005

Rowan soldier - Pray for people of Iraq
By XXXXXXXXXX

Salisbury Post

Last week Jeff xxxxxxx, the son of Donald and Carol xxxxxx of xxxxxxx, shared his experiences on an "escort detail" in a letter from Camp Taji, Iraq, where he's stationed with the 3rd Infantry Division.

Not that he escorted anyone anywhere.

That "detail," he explained, was "Army-speak, for watching two Iraqi citizens while they built a fence here at the camp."

And the week he spent with them "was worth every bit of what I've done to this point."

He broke bread with the two Iraqis and talked to them about their lives.

"A lot of people back home have this idea that Iraq is overrun with people out to kill us, get us out at all costs, and generally hate us," he wrote, but instead, he had made friends — and felt like his experience was not unique.

But another letter followed, and by then he had returned to his regular job in satellite communications. Gobble is a good writer, who says:

"It just so happened that some orders came down that they needed people to man the gate guard positions on the outskirts of the post we live and work on.

"The life of a soldier is not that difficult," he added. They get up, take a shower, shave, check their haircut, go to work, follow orders, go home, go to sleep.

But his orders for May were different.

He was scheduled to guard the main gate for this post with several of his fellow soldiers.

"And at first," he wrote, "it was terrible."

The temperature was going up to 125 degrees here now during the day, "and, of course, we are wearing our full battle rattle (DCU- Desert Combat Uniform, helmet, a flack vest that adds 40 pounds to me and a full load of ammunition.)

"On top of all this, not only is it hot, but the wind is not even cool... It feels like I'm stuck in a sandy hair dryer."

But he's has the opportunity of working with the new Iraqi Army soldiers. Some had to serve in the Iraqi army under Sadaam Hussein.

"And," he wrote, "they have some of the greatest and worst stories to tell. Others are young but still remember what life was like under that terrible man."

For instance, they told him, under Sadaam, punishment for having a cell phone that he did not give them or authorize was 10 years in jail. For having the Internet, you could get 20 years. For making any negative remark about the government or positive remark about an Iraqi enemy was death.

The soldiers who served in the Army were forced to be there. Armed men, Saddam's men, would come to their home, he was told, and demand that they join or they and their entire family would die.

"Anyone who scored a certain percentage on tests in college or held a degree in physics, language, psychology, biology, etc. would be forced to join as well," he has been told.

"Refusing meant certain death. If these things alone aren't enough to show some sort of picture of how bad this place was before, I just can't imagine what would be. The Iraqi men I serve beside, although they themselves are still learning to be free, are starting to show pride in themselves and in their country.

"I feel that one day soon, their Army will be ready, and their country will be ready to stand on its own. I just read that 54 percent of the people don't have good water or sewers."

The children, too, he writes, have "been on my heart. I've been wanting to do something to help them and just recently found out that people back home can help through the U.S. State Department," which works with the Iraqi Ministry of Culture.

"Those are the people responsible for giving clothes and food to needy children over here," he writes. "I urge anyone who can to help. Let them know we are their friends, and together, we can be strong. Wow, there is so much I see and hear about here that sometimes it is overwhelming. If I could, I'd give a hand to every one that was outstretched to me.

"... But still, continue to pray for the people of Iraq, that they can find peace. Pray for the military men and women... my brothers and sisters, that we come home together. Even pray for Zarqawi, the mastermind terrorist. Pray that we find him before he destroys another life, another family.

"I'll keep praying for you all, and I love you and can't wait to get home. Thanks for listening to a now, more understanding soldier."

Contact xxxxx xxxxx at: xxxxxxsalisburypost.com.

Thanks,

Please pray for all concerned.

MaggieB

sapphire630 answered on 06/01/05:

I would love to see a documentary done on all the good the soldiers are doing. I have heard several stories about how they have made the Iraq civilians lives better but you never hear it on the news. All they report is stuff to work against the soldiers and their safety.

My daughter said she is going to enlist in the air force reserves to be a plane mechanic. It scares me to death because I think things are going to get worse all over the world and the military is going to be hurt the hardest. Not to mention that even if you live thru the military you can be court martialed for doing your job now.

My daughters very good friend is coming home on leave from Oklahoma and then he has to go to Abu Graib. I will worry for him until he is safely out of the military.
I know you could die slipping in the tub but like I told my daughter why put yourself in front of a fast moving train.

I am worried sick for the soldiers!

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paraclete asked on 05/31/05 - Attack of the Clones

I see we have to enjure another attack of the clones, but I wonder when they will advance their thinking beyond the tired arguments they continually put forward. Afterall, Paul tells us he was advanceing in Judaism beyond that of his fellows, so it must be possible for a JW to also advance into the glorious light of Jesus Christ. If Paul could find Jesus in the old testament why can't the Watchtower Society?

sapphire630 answered on 06/01/05:

comfortable annilation sounds sweeter I suppose!

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MaggieB asked on 05/31/05 - OK, I'm a little curious also!

Hope, why all the posts, one after the other, when you don't respond to all answers you receive? What is your purpose?

If you want to debate, why not go to the Discussion Forum?

MaggieB

sapphire630 answered on 06/01/05:

I have asked that ever since askme.com!
She NEVER rates or comments to the posts that she knows will be contrary to her view point. I am sure she never even reads the posts that she puts up for controversy when she knows the answers will not be supportive of JW's view point.

I just got done rating a bunch of replies to her newest post with this comment....
Why waste your time she obviously doesn't read the comments....where do you see her rating or even commenting!?

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ROLCAM asked on 06/01/05 - What is the recipe ?

Would you like to live your life fully human,
fully alive ?

What then is the recipe ??

Example to what this means:-

The mind**********Right Intention.

Try all the parts of your body, your soul and
belongings.

sapphire630 answered on 06/01/05:

Tim McGraw's song...live like you were dying.

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carnitin asked on 06/01/05 - Watchtower Hypocrisy: "The word Trinity is not found in the Bible"?

Watchtower Hypocrisy: "The word Trinity is not found in the Bible"?

So what! That does not make the concept of the Trinity a false doctrine!

Examples of Jehovah’s Witness hypocrisy:

Jehovah's Witnesses often say, "The word trinity is not in the Bible"

Jehovah's Witnesses often describe God as being "Omnipotent immutable", (so do we) yet these words are not found in the English Bible any more than Trinity! Some JW's argue that Omnipotent is used in Latin, in the Latin Vulgate, however the fact it is a mistranslation is proven by the fact that the New World Translation doesn't follow the use of the word Omnipotent.
Although Jehovah's Witnesses call themselves "monotheists" and believers in "monotheism", these words are not found in the Bible. So the concept is found in the Bible and we use a non-biblical word to describe it! Same as with Trinty: The concept is found in the Bible, not the word. (Sadly, JW's do not believe God is omnipresent, or omniscient.)
The Bible talks about "atheism" in Ps 14:1, "The fool has said in his heart, 'There is no God.'" So although the word atheism is not found in the Bible, JW's have no problem using the word, since the concept is taught in the Bible. Same as with Trinty: The concept is found in the Bible, not the word.
The Bible also fails to mention the baptism of the Apostles, but JW's say that they were. (and we agree)
In fact, Jehovah's Witnesses are notorious for employing words that are not found in the Bible to teach their false doctrine. Here are a few of the favorite JW words,: "theocracy, millenium, rapture, centralized world organization, Watchtower organization, Kingdom hall, ministerial servants, Circuit Assemblies, Theocratic, Ministry School". Remember, all these words not only convey false doctrine, they are also not found in the Bible anywhere, not even the concept behind the words!
Saying, "The word trinity is not in the Bible" is therefore as irrelevant as it is illogical and quite meaningless.
Jehovah's Witnesses are hypocrites for using the false argument that since the word Trinity is not found in the Bible, this must mean it is a false doctrine!

--By Steve Rudd








sapphire630 answered on 06/01/05:

I tried learning what they believe but they drove me soooo crazy. They kept telling me that the verse about the vine and the branches meant one thing and I kept saying that the word little 2 letter word *IF* (I abide in you) gave the verse an entirely different meaning. They could not understand that one bit. They also tried to tell me that for the millenium that everybody that ever lived comes back to life and has a second chance. Everybody will have one acre of land and will have to work together to restore the earth to paradise. If they rebel or don't pull their weight they will be annilated. I don't see that in the Bible. How do they get that out of you have one chance this time around and then the judgment---It is appointed once....

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carnitin asked on 06/01/05 - Watchtower Hypocrisy: "The word Trinity is not found in the Bible"?

Watchtower Hypocrisy: "The word Trinity is not found in the Bible"?

So what! That does not make the concept of the Trinity a false doctrine!

Examples of Jehovah’s Witness hypocrisy:

Jehovah's Witnesses often say, "The word trinity is not in the Bible"

Jehovah's Witnesses often describe God as being "Omnipotent immutable", (so do we) yet these words are not found in the English Bible any more than Trinity! Some JW's argue that Omnipotent is used in Latin, in the Latin Vulgate, however the fact it is a mistranslation is proven by the fact that the New World Translation doesn't follow the use of the word Omnipotent.
Although Jehovah's Witnesses call themselves "monotheists" and believers in "monotheism", these words are not found in the Bible. So the concept is found in the Bible and we use a non-biblical word to describe it! Same as with Trinty: The concept is found in the Bible, not the word. (Sadly, JW's do not believe God is omnipresent, or omniscient.)
The Bible talks about "atheism" in Ps 14:1, "The fool has said in his heart, 'There is no God.'" So although the word atheism is not found in the Bible, JW's have no problem using the word, since the concept is taught in the Bible. Same as with Trinty: The concept is found in the Bible, not the word.
The Bible also fails to mention the baptism of the Apostles, but JW's say that they were. (and we agree)
In fact, Jehovah's Witnesses are notorious for employing words that are not found in the Bible to teach their false doctrine. Here are a few of the favorite JW words,: "theocracy, millenium, rapture, centralized world organization, Watchtower organization, Kingdom hall, ministerial servants, Circuit Assemblies, Theocratic, Ministry School". Remember, all these words not only convey false doctrine, they are also not found in the Bible anywhere, not even the concept behind the words!
Saying, "The word trinity is not in the Bible" is therefore as irrelevant as it is illogical and quite meaningless.
Jehovah's Witnesses are hypocrites for using the false argument that since the word Trinity is not found in the Bible, this must mean it is a false doctrine!

--By Steve Rudd








sapphire630 answered on 06/01/05:

I tried learning what they believe but they drove me soooo crazy. They kept telling me that the verse about the vine and the branches meant one thing and I kept saying that the word little 2 letter word *IF* (I abide in you) gave the verse an entirely different meaning. They could not understand that one bit. They also tried to tell me that for the millenium that everybody that ever lived comes back to life and has a second chance. Everybody will have one acre of land and will have to work together to restore the earth to paradise. If they rebel or don't pull their weight they will be annilated. I don't see that in the Bible. How do they get that out of you have one chance this time around and then the judgment---It is appointed once....

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Pete_Hanysz asked on 06/01/05 - Sun soakin' time!

Off to spend a couple of weeks on the island of Formentera...I will give you a wave Claude!!

Pete

sapphire630 answered on 06/01/05:

send me some 100 degrees weather please....I am STILL wearing sweat shirts!

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arcura asked on 05/25/05 - When you were a teenager were there books likr this?

May 25, 2005
"Educational" Smut For Kids

By: Michellen Malkin

Here's a rich irony: I'm writing today about a new children's book, but I can't describe the plot in a family newspaper without warning you first that it is entirely inappropriate for children.

The book is "Rainbow Party," by juvenile fiction author Paul Ruditis. The publisher is Simon Pulse, a kiddie lit division of the esteemed Simon & Schuster. The cover of the book features the title spelled out in fun, Crayola-bright font. Beneath the title is an illustrated array of lipsticks in bold colors.

The main characters in the book are high school sophomores -- supposedly typical 14- and 15-year-olds with names such as "Gin" and "Sandy." The book opens with these two girls shopping for lipstick at the mall in advance of a special party. The girls banter as they hunt for lipsticks in every color of the rainbow:

"Okay, we've got red, orange, and purple," Gin said. "Now we just need yellow, green, and blue."

"Don't forget indigo," Sandy said as she scanned the row of lipstick tubes.

"What are you talking about?"

"Indigo," Sandy repeated as if that explained everything. "You know. ROY G. BIV. Red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet."

"That's seven lipsticks. Only six girls are coming. We don't need it."

What kind of party do you imagine they might be organizing? Perhaps a makeover party? With moms and daughters sharing their best beauty secrets and bonding in the process?

Alas, no. No parents are invited to this get-together. A "rainbow party," you see, is a gathering of boys and girls for the purpose of engaging in group oral sex. Each girl wears a different colored lipstick and leaves a mark on each boy. At night's end, the boys proudly sport their own cosmetically sealed rainbow you-know-where -- bringing a whole new meaning to the concept of "party favors."

In the end, the kids in the book abandon plans for the event and news of an epidemic of sexually transmitted diseases rocks their school. But the front cover and book marketing emphasize titillation over education, overpowering any redeeming value the book might have. Indeed, according to Publisher's Weekly, the bound galleys sent to booksellers carried the provocative tagline, "don't you want to know what really goes down?"

The author and publisher of the book seem to have persuaded themselves that they are doing families a favor. Simon & Schuster did not return my call seeking comment, but Bethany Buck, Ruditis' editor, told USA Today the intention was to "scare" young readers (uh-huh), and Ruditis told Publisher's Weekly:

"Part of me doesn't understand why people don't want to talk about [oral sex]," he said. "Kids are having sex and they are actively engaged in oral sex and think it's not really sex. I raised questions in my book and I hope that parents and children or teachers and students can open a topic of conversation through it. Rainbow parties are such an interesting topic. It's such a childlike way to look at such an adult subject -- with rainbow colors."

Teenage group orgies are "an interesting topic"? Is Ruditis out of his mind? We can only pray Simon & Schuster keeps him away from the preschool "Rubbadubbers" books.

In a small sign that decency and common sense still survive in the marketplace, a number of children's book sellers are refusing to stock "Rainbow Party." But as Ruditis' comments indicate, it's just a matter of time before the book ends up on public school library shelves in the name of "educating" children and helping them "deal with reality." The teen lit market is now awash in sexually explicit books that would require brown-paper wrapping if sold at 7-11; their authors are being hailed as "edgy."

For once, radio shock jock Howard Stern has my sympathy. When Oprah Winfrey aired a show last year in which a guest joked bawdily about teenage "rainbow parties" under the guise of enlightening parents, Stern pointed out the regulatory double standards. Why should he be punished for indecent broadcasts while Oprah escaped scrutiny for equally explicit -- and exploitative -- content?

Stern is in the wrong line of work. If you want to peddle smut with society's approval, children's books and sex ed is where it's at.

sapphire630 answered on 05/26/05:

They just said some celebrety is suing NBC for censoring something they said. >>>What about the 'new' FCC rulings?

While we were sleeping 'Leave it to Beaver' turned into 'Malcolm in the middle', ozzie and harriet turned into Ozzie and Sharon, and Danny Thomas (Make room for daddy) and Robert Young (Father knows best) are rolling in their graves!

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paraclete asked on 05/18/05 - A short english lesson


1. Verbs HAS to agree with their subjects.

2. Prepositions are not words to end sentences with.

3. And don't start a sentence with a conjunction.

4. It is wrong to ever split an infinitive.

5. Avoid cliches like the plague. (They're old hat)

6. Also, always avoid annoying alliteration.

7. Be more or less specific.

8. Parenthetical remarks (however relevant) are (usually) unnecessary.

9. Also too, never, ever use repetitive redundancies.

10. No sentence fragments.

posted in the interests of universal understanding

sapphire630 answered on 05/19/05:

BUT, but I must disagree with my subjects as I am their royal hindass. My preposition is all I can work with to the end; at least until I split my infinitive with all my annoying alliterations as I put up with everybody's repetitive redundanices.
My only universal understanding is my fragmented boxes and boxes of paradoxes I live upon with until

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tomder55 asked on 05/19/05 - Why Islam is disrespected

Why Islam is disrespected
By Jeff Jacoby , Globe Columnist | May 19, 2005

IT WAS front-page news this week when Newsweek retracted a report claiming that a US interrogator in Guantanamo had flushed a copy of the Koran down a toilet. Everywhere it was noted that Newsweek's story had sparked widespread Muslim rioting, in which at least 17 people were killed. But there was no mention of deadly protests triggered in recent years by comparable acts of desecration against other religions.

No one recalled, for example, that American Catholics lashed out in violent rampages in 1989, after photographer Andres Serrano's ''Piss Christ" -- a photograph of a crucifix submerged in urine -- was included in an exhibition subsidized by the National Endowment for the Arts. Or that they rioted in 1992 when singer Sinead O'Connor, appearing on ''Saturday Night Live," ripped up a photograph of Pope John Paul II.

There was no reminder that Jewish communities erupted in lethal violence in 2000, after Arabs demolished Joseph's Tomb, torching the ancient shrine and murdering a young rabbi who tried to save a Torah. And nobody noted that Buddhists went on a killing spree in 2001 in response to the destruction of two priceless, 1,500-year-old statues of Buddha by the Taliban government in Afghanistan.

Of course, there was a good reason all these bloody protests went unremembered in the coverage of the Newsweek affair: They never occurred.

Christians, Jews, and Buddhists don't lash out in homicidal rage when their religion is insulted. They don't call for holy war and riot in the streets. It would be unthinkable for a mainstream priest, rabbi, or lama to demand that a blasphemer be slain. But when Reuters reported what Mohammad Hanif, the imam of a Muslim seminary in Pakistan, said about the alleged Koran-flushers -- ''They should be hung. They should be killed in public so that no one can dare to insult Islam and its sacred symbols" -- was any reader surprised?

The Muslim riots should have been met by outrage and condemnation. From every part of the civilized world should have come denunciations of those who would react to the supposed destruction of a book with brutal threats and the slaughter of 17 innocent people. But the chorus of condemnation was directed not at the killers and the fanatics who incited them, but at Newsweek.

From the White House down, the magazine was slammed -- for running an item it should have known might prove incendiary, for relying on a shaky source, for its animus toward the military and the war. Over and over, Newsweek was blamed for the riots' death toll. Conservative pundits in particular piled on. ''Newsweek lied, people died" was the headline on Michelle Malkin's popular website. At NationalReview.com, Paul Marshall of Freedom House fumed: ''What planet do these [Newsweek] people live on? . . . Anybody with a little knowledge could have told them it was likely that people would die as a result of the article." All of Marshall's choler was reserved for Newsweek; he had no criticism at all for the marauders in the Muslim street.

Then there was Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who announced at a Senate hearing that she had a message for ''Muslims in America and throughout the world." And what was that message? That decent people do not resort to murder just because someone has offended their religious sensibilities? That the primitive bloodlust raging in Afghanistan and Pakistan was evidence of the Muslim world's dysfunctional political culture?

No: Her message was that ''disrespect for the Holy Koran is not now, nor has it ever been, nor will it ever be, tolerated by the United States."

Granted, Rice spoke while the rioting was still taking place and her goal was to reduce the anti-American fever. But what ''Muslims in America and throughout the world" most need to hear is not pandering sweet-talk. What they need is a blunt reminder that the real desecration of Islam is not what some interrogator in Guantanamo might have done to the Koran. It is what totalitarian Muslim zealots have been doing to innocent human beings in the name of Islam. It is 9/11 and Beslan and Bali and Daniel Pearl and the USS Cole. It is trains in Madrid and schoolbuses in Israel and an ''insurgency" in Iraq that slaughters Muslims as they pray and vote and line up for work. It is Hamas and Al Qaeda and sermons filled with infidel-hatred and exhortations to ''martyrdom."

But what disgraces Islam above all is the vast majority of the planet's Muslims saying nothing and doing nothing about the jihadist cancer eating away at their religion. It is Free Muslims Against Terrorism, a pro-democracy organization, calling on Muslims and Middle Easterners to ''converge on our nation's capital for a rally against terrorism" -- and having only 50 people show up.

Yes, Islam is disrespected. That will only change when throngs of passionate Muslims show up for rallies against terrorism, and when rabble-rousers trying to gin up a riot over a defiled Koran can't get the time of day.



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I would add that when the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem was occupied by Arafat's thugs ;and they ripped up Bibles to use as toilet ;the world hardly noticed.

sapphire630 answered on 05/19/05:

Even moreso when a desecrated picture supposedly of the virgin Mary or Jesus is made by a so-called "artists" it is called art and given grants to be displayed in art museums.
Go figure!

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Choux asked on 05/19/05 - Howard Stern vs. Decent People

That smut purveyor, Howard Stern, had a real shock when the results of a poll of potential subscription radio customers revealed that they would chose the competetor to Sirius, the new radio concept that Stern signed on by an overwhelming margin!!

Do you think that this means we have turned the corner on indecency on the public airways?? That there is less public interest? More control?

What do you think?

sapphire630 answered on 05/19/05:

I have been hearing since before Janet Jackson's little stunt that Americans want more decency---I'll believe it when I sees it!

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Choux asked on 05/16/05 - News in America

"News" in America is either entertainment or propaganda. What a sorry state of affairs!

Where do you go to get your facts?

sapphire630 answered on 05/16/05:

NOT the T.V. or newspaper
mostly non-biased
internet sites and Tomdearest!

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Pamela asked on 05/14/05 - Michael Jackson's white skin.

Some of the experts here believe that MJ has changed his skin color because he does not like his own race.
In today's newspaper here it tells a story of a woman who has vitiligo, "the same as Michael Jackson."
Vitiligo causes the body to slow down the production of melanocytes resulting in large areas of white patches on the skin.
Isn't it a pity that we humans are so quick to judge others without knowing all the facts?
I would like to hear from you if you have had the experience of being misjudged over a medical condition or any other reason.

sapphire630 answered on 05/16/05:

White patches?
I have watched MJ since the 60's when he was 5 years old on Ed Sullivan. I have never seen white spots on him; he always looked one shade, as fading as it may have been.

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Choux asked on 05/16/05 - Shocking American Abuse at Gitmo

Just on Fox cable news, a shocking story of abuse at Guantanamo Base in Cuba. The news reader stated that an American, "Flushed a Korean down the toilet".

I say, "How is this going to make Islamic terrorists talk"???

Comments?

PS True story.

sapphire630 answered on 05/16/05:

From what I heard it wasn't even true and 20 people have been killed over it--so far.

I don't think that American journalists should be reporting this stuff; especially when they don't even have their story straight.

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Krewton asked on 05/09/05 - If I'm lyin' I'm dyin' sugar pants!

When I try to reply to you Pete it says expert has blocked your contact. Can't get any more blocked than that!

sapphire630 answered on 05/09/05:

I am not saying this is the problem but I have seen misunderstandings like this sometimes when someone sends in a report of abuse on someone answerway will block you from each other even if that wasn't your intention. Did you send in a report of abuse on Pete?

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Saladin asked on 05/03/05 - Help or Hindrance?


Laura Bush Talks Naughty
By JOHN TIERNEY

Published: May 3, 2005

When King Agamemnon and his fleet
of warships were becalmed in the Aegean Sea, he ordered his wife to fetch their daughter so she could be sacrificed to the gods. It worked, sort of. The winds picked up and blew the Greek ships to triumph at Troy, although Agamemnon's wife did murder him later.

Republican presidents rely on a slightly less cruel sacrificial ritual for their problems. Their wives appease the media gods with comedy routines.

Each spring, when politicians and reporters convene for formal dinners that are supposed to be funny and are often compared to root canals, they talk about Nancy Reagan's "Secondhand Clothes" the way fans talk about the 1927 Yankees. The Reagans' image for conspicuous consumption was never the same after Mrs. Reagan put on rags in 1982 to sing a lampoon of her spending habits.

But on Saturday night, Laura Bush set a new standard. After interrupting her husband and telling him to sit down, she did a stand-up routine that included what was probably the first joke told in earshot of a president that involved him and a horse's phallus.

Mrs. Bush called her husband Mr. Excitement for going to bed by 9 o'clock and turning her into a "desperate housewife."

She said that Lynne Cheney's Secret Service code name became Dollar Bill after they both went to Chippendales (where they ran into Sandra Day O'Connor and Ruth Bader Ginsburg).

Noting that Andover and Yale did not have "real strong ranching programs," she said Mr. Bush had started his ranching career by trying to milk a horse - a male horse.

Her timing had the audience howling, and the edgier lines had them gasping.

Jokes about pent-up sexual frustration from a prim librarian?

With her born-again husband sitting there and enjoying it? And cameras recording it for Republican preachers who are determined to get sex out of schools and off television?

[...]

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Did this help or harm GWB? What do you think?

:)

Ronnie

sapphire630 answered on 05/05/05:

She asked how is he going to end tarrany when he goes to bed at 9. My guess is the tarrany he needs to stop is Laura going to Chippendales.
I think she lowered herself by this because it was so phony, out of character and unbecoming for her.

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ethical_reason asked on 05/03/05 - Hillary beat Laura on a Christianity board

Is that wierd or what?

sapphire630 answered on 05/05/05:

after her entertainment the other day I think Laura has fallen from grace with many Christians.

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Choux asked on 05/03/05 - Ugly Children Cute Children

Today on cable, a story getting a lot of play is from a study from Europe, which found out that parents treated their good-looking children better than their uglier children. The child treated best was a good-looking boy.

Were you a good looking child?
Did your parents treat you well?
Comments?

sapphire630 answered on 05/05/05:

I know too many mommy dearests.
I see mothers treating their cute kids horribly all the time. The little girl across the street from me gets her hair pulled by her mother everytime she gets mad at her and its usually only because her mother is miserable.

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arcura asked on 05/05/05 - I do not believe in what many say is a coincidence.

There is a reason for my belief.
It is what you hear and say in Church, that God is the "Creator of all things visible and invisible"
As such God created all the laws of the universe of which science has been struggling for millennia to discover and they are finding that there is much more than what they have so far uncovered.
Though man has free will it still operates within those various laws.
We were created in God's image and that covers a great area of what we do and what happens because of our choices that affect ourselves and others.
That does not mean that everything we do is preordained but it does mean that we operate right along with all the laws of the universe which includes the birth and death of stars and galaxies.
Looking at it that way it is a colossal enterprise of tremendously varied proportions.
On another scale the latest religious study report is out that people who attend church services regularly are happier, healthier, longer lived and have a more stable family life than do others.
Some could say that's a coincidence, and in the strictest definition of the word it is, BUT it also reflects the grace of God. Get this, everything does.
Praise God from whom all blessing flow because that's the way it is curtsey of the King of the Universe.
Do you understand this as I do?
Fred

sapphire630 answered on 05/05/05:

only works for me when my synchronicity is at its best; otherwise it is coincidence.

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Saladin asked on 05/05/05 -
"Louie Louie" - Whaddya think?


"Louie Louie, me gotta go.
Louie Louie, me gotta go.

A fine little girl, she wait for me.
Me catch the ship across the sea.

I sailed the ship all alone.
I never think I'll make it home.

Louie Louie, me gotta go.
Three nights and days we sailed the sea.

Me think of girl constantly.
On the ship, I dream she there.

I smell the rose in her hair.
Louie Louie, me gotta go.

Me see Jamaican moon above.
It won't be long me see me love.

Me take her in my arms and then
I tell her I never leave again.

Louie Louie, me gotta go."

By Richard Berry
Copyright 1957-1963 by Limax Music Inc.

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Are the words inappropriate for a high school marching band to play in a parade?

:)

Ronnie


sapphire630 answered on 05/05/05:

Nothing compared to Snoop Doggie, Eminem and others

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ETWolverine asked on 04/26/05 - Leave of Absense

To all my friends at Answerway.

Due to circumstances beyond my control, specifically computer-access related issues, I will be going on a long-term leave of absense.

I've enjoyed the past few years here with you all. We've had some great conversations and I've learned a lot. And I'm going to miss being here.

Hopefully this isn't a permanent situation. Maybe I'll be able to come back at some point, even on a limited basis. But for now, I have to say goodbye to you all.

Best wishes, and keep the faith.

Elliot

sapphire630 answered on 04/28/05:

Do like I do and make stops at the library as often as possible if your library has internet access. That and my school are the only way I have to get on the library.

You will remain on my fav list no matter.
Hurry back!

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Dark_Crow asked on 04/27/05 - Is there Propaganda going on here?

The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously.

If you don't know the other point of view, you don't know anything. The essential element of an unbiased position is whether it speaks to an opposing view accurately. Propaganda, on the other hand, often ignores or mischaracterizes the other view, or gives weak, watered-down renditions of their position. If reasonable people hold different views, then we are dealing with opinion, not fact. In the language of relativity, everyone is correct--- from their own point of view--- but of course we know this cannot always be the case; especially when it comes to Values. Everyone does have (or should have) the freedom to hold their own beliefs and the freedom to try to persuade others of the truth of those beliefs. But not all beliefs can in fact be equally true; so it is that not only must we approach beliefs with an open mind, those beliefs must be according to knowledge. What we firmly believe, if it is true, is called knowledge. The right to have one’s opinion respected requires that one is deemed competent. Only when an individual has proven that they are educated and informed can their opinion ever be appreciated or accepted.

Comments?

sapphire630 answered on 04/28/05:

If only everybody could truly understand that!

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Dark_Crow asked on 04/28/05 - “Judge not, lest ye be judged”

“Judge not, lest ye be judged” is an all too often cliche I find distasteful as the other common cliche; “its all relative.”.

Both of these cliches are just plain bad advice for anyone to take give or take.

Many people would judge a convicted serial rapist as deserving of punishment because the crime offends their sense of right and wrong, while condemning others as being judgmental concerning their stands on other forms of sexual immorality; including pre-martial and extra-marital relationships.
So what standards are we to use in making judgements?
The phrase, "Any text without a context is a pretext", is valid of Scriptures as well as in philosophy; so please, answer the question in context.

sapphire630 answered on 04/28/05:

I think we are to judge with wise, right judgment
but not condemning judgment...
For example, we need to judge if we can trust someone to watch our kids for safety sake, but not judge them in an upity, self-righteous, condemning way.
In other words, Micheal Jackson I might like as a person and have no personal ill will toward you, BUT NO Micheal Jackson my kids ain't NEVER stayin' at your Neverland!

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CrimeLab asked on 04/23/05 - Found the original story...

5-Year-Old Handcuffed After Fight At School
By STEPHEN THOMPSON spthompson@tampatrib.com
Published: Mar 18, 2005


ST. PETERSBURG - Police handcuffed the wrists and legs of a 5-year-old girl at a school this week after the kindergartner attacked a teacher and the assistant principal, officials said.
The student was disciplined and was to return to school today, Pinellas County schools spokesman Ron Stone said Thursday. He did not provide details of the punishment.

The St. Petersburg police officers involved - two training officers and two probationary officers - were not disciplined because their actions were deemed within policy, police spokesman Bill Proffitt said.

He said one of the training officers, Mark Williams, was aware the girl had been disruptive in the past when police received a call at 3 p.m. Monday saying she again had become violent at Fairmount Park Elementary School, at 575 41st St. S.

The girl had started acting up in class and struck a teacher and Assistant Principal Nicole Di Benedetto, Proffitt said.

She first was restrained with steel, standard-issue handcuffs but slipped out of those, he said. She then was bound with plastic flexible cuffs but continued to struggle, kicking at officers as they walked her out of the school to a squad car, Proffitt said.

She was put in the back of the cruiser but continued kicking one officer in the arms and legs, so another set of handcuffs was used to restrain her legs, a police report says.

When officers called the Pinellas-Pasco State Attorney's Office, they were told prosecutors would not charge the girl with battery on a school employee or anything else.

``To think we would consider charging a child of that age with a crime is almost comical,'' said Bruce Bartlett, chief assistant state attorney. Di Benedetto, 31, was disappointed charges were not filed because it was the third time the girl had behaved violently, the police report says. Di Benedetto declined to comment Thursday.

Once prosecutors made their decision, the girl was released to her mother. Neither mother nor daughter was at their apartment Thursday, but the mother was upset that her daughter, who weighs 60 pounds and is 4-foot-5, had been handcuffed, Proffitt said.

Officers contacted the state child abuse registry because they had concerns about what were said to be sudden, negative changes in the girl's behavior and statements she made, the police report says.

Di Benedetto told police she checked on Room 13 at 1:50 p.m., according to the police report. The girl was sitting on the floor, pouting and refusing to take part in a math exercise involving jelly beans, the report says.

It said that eventually, the girl got up, went into the math teacher's office and started throwing things from the desk into the trash.

The teacher had the other students in the class leave.

Another teacher was called to help, but the girl kicked her in the shins, hit her in the arm, and tried to scratch her, the report says. She calmed down after 25 minutes, the report says, but once she was in Di Benedetto's office, she started throwing things again and struck Di Benedetto three times, in the arms and stomach. Then police were called.

http://www.tampatrib.com/floridametronews/MGBTDJDYF6E.html

Sounds a little different now, does it not? Note that the cops were NOT disciplined.

sapphire630 answered on 04/25/05:

I heard almost a year ago hand cuffing and hauling kids away to jail is becoming more and more common for kids that are disruptive. I heard they hand cuff them for safety reasons because of the harm out of control kids can do.
My one son was out of control when he was grade school age and it took a lot to restrain him. Three police had him one time and he was still out of control and they expected me to be able to restrain him alone. I have seen it with kids they get an adrenaline strength that is unbelievable. It happens to the best of families so I disagree with the 'single mother not disipling' idea. Handcuffing does seem very extreme but I don't know what else they can do when things get that out of control.
My son eventually 'outgrew' his behavior.

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CeeBee2 asked on 04/21/05 - How has Christianity changed...................

for the good and for the ill since the 1940s and 1950s?

sapphire630 answered on 04/21/05:

Have to agree with curious
God and his will doesn't change it is peoples customs, perceptions, personalities, etc....that change.

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arcura asked on 04/21/05 - Once popular were joke about North Dakota. Now it's East Texas.

East Texas Jokes.

The owner of a golf course in East Texas was confused about paying an
invoice, so he decided to ask his secretary for some mathematical
help. He called her into his office and said, "You graduated from the
University of Texas and I need some help.

If I were to give you $20,000, minus 14%, how much would you take off?
" The secretary thought a moment, then replied, "Everything but my
earrings."
You gotta love those East Texas women.

=======================================

A group of East Texas friends went deer hunting and paired off in
twos for the day.
That night, one of the hunters returned alone, staggering under the
weight of an eight-point buck.

"Where's Henry?" the others asked
"Henry had a stroke of some kind. He's a couple of miles back up the
trail," the successful hunter replied.
"You left Henry laying out there and carried the deer back?" they
inquired.
"A tough call," nodded the hunter. "But I figured no one is going to
steal Henry!"

=======================================

A senior at the Texas A&M was overheard saying ..
"when the end of the world comes, I hope to be in East Texas."

When asked why, he replied he'd rather be in East Texas because
everything happens in Texas 20 years later than in the rest of the
civilized world.

=======================================

The young man from East Texas came running into the store and said to
his buddy, "Junior, somebody just stole your pickup truck from the
parking lot!"
Junior replied, "Did you see who it was?
"The young man answered, "I couldn't tell, but I got the license
number."

=======================================

East Texas's worst air disaster occurred when a small two-seater
Cessna 150 plane, piloted by two Texas Aggie students, crashed into a
cemetery earlier today.

Search and rescue workers have recovered 300 bodies so far and expect
the number to climb as digging continues into the evening.

The pilot and copilot survived and are helping in the recovery efforts.

=======================================

A Texas State trooper pulled over a pickup on US-59. The trooper
asked, "Got any ID?"
The driver replied, "Bout whut?

=======================================
A bottle collector had been on a several state traveling vacation.
When he go back to home in Butte, Montana he showed what he had found on the trip to his neighbor.
As they were looking at the bottles he was mentioning from where he got them.
The neighbor had picked up a bottle of Sorghum Root Beer and said "I know where this comes from. The soda was made in Louisiana and was bottled in East Texas".
"Interesting," said the collector. "I bought it in East Texas. How could you tell?"
His friend said,. "Molded into the glass on the bottom is the message 'Open the other end'."
============================================.
A man in East Texas had a flat tire, pulled off on the side of the
road, and proceeded to put a bouquet of flowers in front of the car
and one behind it.

Then he got back in the car to wait. A passerby studied the scene as
he drove by and was so curious he turned around and went back. He
asked the fellow what the problem was. The man replied, "I have a flat tire.

"The passerby asked, "But what's with the flowers?"
The man responded, "When you break down they tell you to put flares
in the front and flares in the back! I never did understand it
either."

sapphire630 answered on 04/21/05:

The Bull and The Blonde
Two sisters, one blonde and one brunette, inherit the family ranch.
Unfortunately, after just a few years, they are in financial trouble.
In order to keep the bank from repossessing the ranch, they need to purchase a bull so that they can breed their own stock.
Upon leaving for another ranch to check on the possibility of buying a bull, the brunette tells her sister, "When I get there, if I decide to buy the bull, I'll contact you to drive out after me and haul it home."
The brunette arrives at the man's ranch, >inspects the bull, and decides she wants to buy it. The man tells her that he will sell it for $599.
After paying him, she drives to the nearest town to send her sister a telegram to tell her the news. She walks into the telegraph office, and says, "I want to send a telegram to my sister telling her that I've bought a bull for our ranch." "I need her to hitch the trailer to our pickup truck and drive out here so we can haul it home."
The telegraph operator explains that he'll be glad to help her, then adds, "It's just 99 cents a word." Well, after paying for the bull, the brunette only has $1 left.
She realizes that she'll only be able to send her sister one word. After thinking for a few minutes, she nods, and says, "I want you to send her the word "Comfortable".
The operator shakes his head. "How is she ever going to know that you want her to hitch the trailer to your pickup truck and drive out here to haul that bull back to your ranch if you send her the word, 'comfortable?'"

The brunette explains, "My sister's blonde. The word's big. She'll read it slowly. "com-for-da-bull".


http://www.texasrebelradio.com/texas_jokes.htm


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STONY asked on 04/21/05 - AN INTRESTING SCENARIO...

How old is grandma?



Very Scary
One Evening a Grandson was talking to his Grandmother about
current events.

The Grandson asked his Grandmother WHAT she thought
about
the shootings at schools, the computer age, and just things in
general.
The Grandma replied, " Well, let me THINK a minute, I
was
born
BEFORE:
Penicillin,
Frozen foods,
Xerox,
Frisbees,
and The Pill.

There was NO radar,
No credit cards,
No laser beams,
Man had NOT invented pantyhose,
air-conditioners,
dishwashers,
clothes dryers,
and the clothes were HUNG OUT to dry in the fresh air
and
man hadn't yet walked on the moon.
Your Grandfather and I got married FIRST and then
lived together.
EVERY family had a Father and a Mother
Until I was 25, I called every man, older than I , "Sir",
and AFTER I turned 25, I still called policemen and every man
with a title, " Sir.."
We were born before gay-rights:
computer-dating,
dual careers,
daycare centers,
and group therapy.

Our lives were governed by the Ten Commandments, good
judgments and common sense.
We were taught to know the difference between right
and wrong
and to stand up and TAKE responsibility for our actions.
Serving your country was a privilege, living in this
country was a bigger privilege.
We THOUGHT fast-food was WHAT people ate during lent.
Having a meaningful relationship meant getting along
with your cousins.

Draft dodgers were people WHO closed their front doors
when the evening breeze started.
Time-sharing meant time the family spent together in
the weekends.
We NEVER heard of FM radios,
tape decks,
CD's,
electric typewriters,
yogurt,
or guys wearing earrings.
We listened to the Big Bands, Jack Benny, and the
President's speeches on our radios.
And I DON'T EVER remember, ANY kids blowing his brains
out


JUNK.
The term 'making out' referred to HOW you did on your
school exam.
Pizza Hut, McDonald's, and instant coffee were
un-heard of.

We had 5 &10-cent stores where you could actually buy
things
for
5 and
10 cents: Ice cream cones, phone calls, rides on a
streetcar,and
a
Pepsi
were ALL a nickel.

And if you didn't want to splurge, you could spend
>your
nickel
on
enough
stamps to mail 1 letter and 2 postcards.

You could buy a new Chevy Coupe for $600., but WHO
could
afford

one??
Too bad... because gas was only 11 cents a gallon.

In my days, "grass" was mowed, " coke" was a COLD
drink,


pot

was
something your mother cooked in, and " rock music" was your
Grandmother's
lullaby.
"Aids" were helpers in the Principal's office.
"Chip" meant a piece of wood.
" Hardware" was found in a hardware store.
and "software" wasn't EVEN a word.
And we were the LAST generation to actually believe
that
a
lady
needed a
husband to have a baby.
NO WONDER, people call us " OLD and CONFUSED" and say
there is
a
generation gap.
And HOW old do you THINK I am??

Read on... pretty scary IF you think about it and
pretty sad at the same time.
This woman would be only 58 years old.

sapphire630 answered on 04/21/05:

I am 50 and remember about ALL that.

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CeeBee2 asked on 04/21/05 - Why Do We Feel So Bad When We Have It So Good?

Today's standard of living that you and I share is better than almost all the men and women of history. (The U.S. and EU middle class or above lives better than 99.4 percent of the human beings who have ever existed and better than most of the royalty in history.)

We have easy access to a huge variety of foods at affordable prices. (We used to buy fresh only when fruits or vegetables were "in season" or harvested from our gardens.)

Our average lifespan has almost doubled since the beginning of the 20th century (77 years compared to 41).

Deadly diseases such as polio, smallpox, measles, and rickets have been defeated. Even croup could be fatal.

Our houses are more than double the size of the past generation, plus we have forced-air heat (not a coal or wood stove/furnace) and ac that was unheard of by our grandparents.

Most of us have health insurance.

The "jet set", a term that once described people of rare affluence, now describes 200 million Americans who regularly travel by land, air, and water.

Crime is down, our environment is cleaner, we are more educated, and we experience greater equality. In real dollars almost everything costs less today than it did during the 1950s, health care is light-years better, three times as many people now make it to college, communication is nearly instantaneous, and no one thinks twice when women and blacks go to the polls to vote.

(paraphased from http://www.theocentric.com/theoarchives/000298.html)

I remember the 1940s and 1950s with great affection, but if you had a choice, would you really prefer to live back then instead of now?

sapphire630 answered on 04/21/05:

People are short-sighted and forget the past. Nowadays people grieve over long lines and minor inconvenience and don't think of the blood, sweat and tears our ancestors had to endure so we could have it soooo comparatively easy. They handled every thing differently, like they put cardboard in their shoes and kept on going; the tread on our kids tennies wears down a tiny bit and it is time to run to the tennis shoe store and spend another $110.
I think I would rather live back then because people had a true appreciation for hard work and the simple things in life.

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ETWolverine asked on 04/21/05 - Is this fair?

In the past week, there have been 5 cases that have come to light in NYC of sexual abuse of students by teachers.

Joanna Hernandez, a middle-school teacher, was arrested after kissing a 15-year-old 8th grader at IS 55 in Brownsville.

Rhianna Ellis, a social studies teacher, got pregnant by her 18-year-old student at the HS for Health Professions and Human Services in Manhattan.

Samantha Solomon, a guidance counselor at the same school as Ellis is said to have had a 2-week affair with a 17-year-old boy.

Joseph Morales, a Staten Island middle school teacher was arrested for flashing school girls.

Investigators say they are probing an unnamed 27-year-old male teacher from Richmond Hills HS in Queens for having an affair with an 18-year-old student.

What we have here is a pattern of abuse by teachers. We also have a pattern of these teachers being protected and defended by their respective unions (mostly the UFT).

These are not the only cases by far. They are just the ones that have popped up within the past week.

There are grave similarities between these allegations and patterns, and the patterns of child sex abuse within the Roman Catholic Church.

The major difference between them is that nobody is calling for punitive action against the teachers unions.

For years of perusing this board, I have watched people attack the church (legitimately) over the clergy sex abuse issue. They have called for the punishment of the Church, for people to leave the church, for the church to come clean, for the church to be overhauled, for the church to be investigated... etc. Over and over again, members of this board (experts and questioners) have called for action against the church for protecting predator clergy.

Why haven't we heard a call for action against the teachers union for protecting predator teachers?

What's different?

Absolutely nothing.

So why the tough talk against the church, but not against the UFT and other teacher unions?

I'm not Catholic. I have no great love for the RCC. I have no need to defend them on religious grounds. But I see an anti-Catholic bias taking place, intentional or not, and I feel the need to speak up about it.

I'm not defending the church for protecting predatory clergy. I think the church is dead wrong for doing so. That isn't my issue. My issue is that I see two similar situations, both in the media, both widely reported, but only ONE of them is receiving the attention of the public. Why is the public so fixated on crucifying the church, but ignoring the teachers' union?

Is there a bias against the church?

Elliot

sapphire630 answered on 04/21/05:

I agree with you
I think that the problem is (partly) the teachers can get organizations like the ACLU, NAMBLA and other ones fighting for stuff like this to be legal (and hard as it is to believe these organizations are fighting for just that); and the church is on its own because of stuff like separation of church and state, etc...
and of course the church is suppost to be held accountable to a higher moral standard.

This world is making less and less sense to me with all the contradictory double standards.

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Choux asked on 04/21/05 - Re-Doing my Apartment

This isn't an easy project, cheer me on, please! I am going to get rid of at least half my books and I find I'm on dead center...inertia...and, get rid of my wedding pictures and some stuff just collecting dust....it is difficult.

My friend Doris helped me with the heavy work, she took many of my clothes and donated them, and other stuff like furniture, she kept what she wanted and donated the rest.

Soon, I hope, I will have a lovely simple but beautiful in a (minimalistic way) living space, just the basics, easy to clean, keep the cat hair and dander at bay. Even poor Nick has allergies!! :):):)

I gotta get this done!! I hate living in a messy pit.

Cheer me on!! Old lady in need of cheery encouragement!!

sapphire630 answered on 04/21/05:

Tell your friend don't touch the computer IT stays!

If I lived near you I would help ya.

If you throw too much away and end up wanting more stuff

I could send you my old tee shirt

genuine antique person
been there, done that, can't remember

&/or a few of my cats


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Liz22 asked on 04/19/05 - Hank?

Has anyone heard from Hank? I hope all is okay with him, for I miss him,

sapphire630 answered on 04/19/05:

If you click on his name and get his profile page it says he checked in here today. If you want to see what he last answered click on his 'see answers in christianity' other than that wait til he replies to this I guess.

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Mathatmacoat asked on 04/18/05 - an opinion needed?

Chou, nip down the street and take a look at this for me and tell me if it's for real?

http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/A-Virgin-vision/2005/04/19/1113854186444.html

Now's our big opportunity to get an expert opinion on a apparition.

sapphire630 answered on 04/19/05:

ohhnnnoooo! sounds to me like an underpass is going to go missing and be found on E~bay!

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CeeBee2 asked on 04/18/05 - karma - 1) do you believe that

karma operates in your life? 2) If your answer to 1) is yes, please give an example of karma at work in your life.

sapphire630 answered on 04/19/05:

I believe some of the reap what you sow...it does come around in some form one day or another...
Karma as in reincarnation. I have my own theory on what so called reincarnation really is and it is not a soul coming back for another try.

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Lazlow asked on 04/18/05 - You people are scum

God's mercy on all you swine! I'm keeping Liz22 off this board until all of you get your shit together. You suck. God hates all of you. Choux, you're cool.
Next time any of you say anything bad about Liz22, I'll have my goons rip your balls off, and if the person doesnt have balls, you'll wake up with some attatched to you.
I may be a foul-mouthed person, but I never once made any personal insults to offend anybody here, I've always respected each person here.

Consider this a warning. Next time I hear that Liz22 is a bad mother, I will destroy this board and none of you will ever have the chance to enjoy it again.

Lazlow

sapphire630 answered on 04/19/05:

Liz iz da best!!
Tell her I said so!

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Choux asked on 04/07/05 - Being Correct

Is there a misconception that the Holy Spirit of Christianity is about *being correct*???

Comments please about the nature of the Holy Spirit.

sapphire630 answered on 04/15/05:

The Holy Spirit is absolute truth therefore many Christians believe they have to always be correct but that does NOT make them right!

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Choux asked on 04/14/05 - Believing in God

The results of a study were quoted in a story on my ISP. The results showed that those who believed in God were happier and lived longer than those who didn't. HOWEVER, that only applied to *African-Americans*.

White people, *no difference*.

sapphire630 answered on 04/15/05:

I have read so many conflicting statistic reports especially on politics and religion I wouldn't even waste my time on them. Over 60% Americans are suppost to believe in God yet over 60% don't want to hear anything about God because they do not believe in anything to do with God. What sense is that!?

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hOPE12 asked on 04/15/05 - Hypothetical question?

Hello Everyone,

How would you balance your choice if you had to choose between your child and your mate?

Another words suppose someone said that if you to choose your child's life or your mates life. Which loved one would be let go? Could you choose? What thoughts would enter your mind as you must choose between the two most loved ones in your life?

Now lets take it even further. What if you had to choose your worship to God or your loved ones life? Could you choose? What would you base your choice on?

I bring this up because throughout history many have had to make that choice. Some world rulers have killed those who have choose to worship God. Some children where even killed in front of the parent because they choose to serve God, when given that choice.

Once again, what would your choice be???

Take care,
Hope12

sapphire630 answered on 04/15/05:

My KIDS! >>>>You can't live with em and you can't live without em!

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hOPE12 asked on 04/15/05 - A Real tough Question:

Hello Experts,

Now here a good question for you guys. If after getting married a husband or a wife become slow mentally and does not have the mature understanding to make family choices, can he still remain the head of his household? Does God's laws expect a wife to be in subjection even though a man's ability to make choices is mentally impaired? Please give your answer from the Bible. Thank you

Take care,
Hope12

sapphire630 answered on 04/15/05:

I wouldn't let any man make my decisions...its my way or the highway...maybe thats why I am happy ALONE!

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tomder55 asked on 04/15/05 - Happy Tax Day

"There is no virtue in compulsory government charity, and there is no virtue in advocating it. A politician who portrays himself as caring and sensitive because he wants to expand the government's charitable programs is merely saying that he is willing to do good with others people's money. Well, who isn't?"

P.J. O'Rourke

sapphire630 answered on 04/15/05:

I could do a LOT of good with other peoples money...and probably even save THEM money in the long run!

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paraclete asked on 04/07/05 - On the leadership of the Holy Spirit #3

A number of our good catholic experts have suggested that I have been less that truthfull in my questioning of Cardinal George Pells statement. They say they can't read the transcript

Here is what was said on this subject on the April 6 program Dateline

"GEORGE NEGUS: Cardinal, I don't mean this in a facetious or a sacrilegious way, but how does the Holy Spirit guide people like yourself in the conclave when there has to be politics involved, there has to be ideology involved, there has to be numbers involved, is the Holy Spirit a good political numbers man? "

CARDINAL GEORGE PELL: No, sometimes He gets it right, sometimes He gets it wrong. But the Holy Spirit always works through free individuals. We try to listen to one another, we try to think, we try to discern what the church needs and to come to some consensus. The Holy Spirit only works through humans and through natural means generally. I've received no special inspiration.

GEORGE NEGUS: It's interesting though you said sometimes the Holy Spirit can get it wrong?

CARDINAL GEORGE PELL: Yes, well there have been bad popes in history. "

What I would like to know is how can a Church be led by an infalliable Pope being counselled by a falliable Holy Spirit? Something is terribly wrong with the doctrine here, or that Church is being led by the wrong people.

sapphire630 answered on 04/07/05:

you said sometimes the Holy Spirit can get it wrong?

CARDINAL GEORGE PELL: Yes, well there have been bad popes in history. "

(I did hear this on the radio)

sounds like he is calling the pope the Holy spirit. when actually he should be saying sometimes the pope gets it (what the Holy spirit is 'telling' him wrong---in that case, maybe he (the bad pope) is hearing the wrong spirit.


What popes does he refer to or consider bad popes?

Conclusion:
Listen to NO man.


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STONY asked on 04/07/05 - FOR YA'LL FLA. RESIDENTS....

YOU NO LONGER NEED TO QUIVER IN FEAR OF CRIMINALS OR CARJACKERS IN OUR STATE. YESTERDAY THE GOV. SIGNED INTO LAW THE RIGHT TO FIGHT BACK WITH FORCE AND IT GOES INTO EFFECT ON OCT.1, 2005. WHAT IT BASICALLY SAYS IS THIS, BREAK INTO MY HOUSE AND YOU CAN LEAVE WITH THIRTY SLUGS YOU DID NOT BRING WITH YOU WHEN YOU ENTERED. ATTEMPT TO JACK MY CAR AND YOU WILL GET A FREE RIDE IN THE AMBULANCE AS THEY CART YOUR BODY AWAY
BECAUSE THIS CITIZEN IS ARMED AND DANGEROUS. I REMEMBER THE COCAINE COWBOYS OF THE 80'S AND THE LAW IS NOT ON THE SIDE OF THE CRIMINAL ANYMORE. IT AIN'T FREE REIGN ON FLORIDIANS ANYMORE. CRIMINALS TAKE NOTICE
BECAUSE AN OLD TEXAS SAYING IS COMING TO PASS HERE IN THIS STATE, "IF YOU [MESS] WITH THE BULL YOU GET THE HORNS ALSO." JUST SLIGHTLY CLEANED UP.

sapphire630 answered on 04/07/05:

Great until gun laws are passed that ban ALL guns...then its back to the drawing board

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Saladin asked on 04/07/05 - Are You Wise to Trust Your Own Senses - or - Is Seeing Believing?


If you think your senses are trustworthy, this will shock you:

http://www.michaelbach.de/ot/mot_mib/index.html

sapphire630 answered on 04/07/05:

yes...until optical illusions cause me grand delusions!


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bal317 asked on 04/07/05 - Why can't Carter go?

Can someone please tell me.
What was the conflict(I think,I heard something), behind the problem, that. Former President Jimmy Carter could not attend Pope John Paul II's funeral.

I thought if it was setting. Then out of respect should'nt Mrs. Bush of stayed home and allowed the men to of gone, like the rest of the wives?

Thank you,
bal317

sapphire630 answered on 04/07/05:

Good question, why Clinton rather than Carter other than Clinton has somehow become strange bed fellows with the Bushs. Hmmm, does this have some strange connection to do with Monica somehow?

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Choux asked on 04/07/05 - Follow-Up to Hope's Question

Hope asked if we beleive in an afterlife, and if so or not, reasons for our opinions. I would like to ask, why would a person want to "live" without a body? To me, that sounds like a horror!

Why want to have an afterlife at all? Isn't death peace at last?

sapphire630 answered on 04/07/05:

The Bible says we are given a *new* body.
According to what I understand Sylvia Browns teaching it is the spirits that do not realize they are dead or are not ready to move on to the after-life, for whatever reasons, that roam the earth that do not yet have their *new* bodies.

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ROLCAM asked on 04/06/05 - The actual practice ??

What are some reasons people practice religion?

sapphire630 answered on 04/07/05:

I once heard someone say
Religion is man's attempt to reach God
Spirituality is God reaching out to man.

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excon asked on 04/07/05 - Context


Hello again, experts:

It occurs to me that many of my beliefs about life were made in a scientific context. In other words, I believe science first and foremost. Do you?

The answer is either yes or no. I don't believe you can pick and choose. Let's not be coy, here. I mean specifically, do you believe the earth is around 11 billion years old or only around 6,000 years? Do you believe we evolved from monkies?

Can you believe both science and religion? Why are they opposites?

excon

sapphire630 answered on 04/07/05:

Have to agree with visions.

There is what we call science in the Bible and God is the creator of that what we call 'science'. We just don't have the absolutes like God does and I was getting ready to ask a question about how far back does history go biblically or otherwise? I don't think it goes back much more than maybe 7,000 years. So is the earth billions of years and man only 6 or 7 thousand years?

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arcura asked on 04/06/05 - In a comment I made to another Christian group....

Some Catholics said that they though Momon's were not Chrisitans.
I thought you mind be interested in my point of view on that.
Here is what I offered.
"If we are to claim that those the do not baptize as Catholics do are not Christians How about those do not that consecrate the Eucharist, or hold Mary in high esteem, or pray to the saints, or have icons in their buildings of worship, or use holy water, or chant, or the clergy wear seasonal vestments or have a pope. Are they who do not do all that not Christian?
There is said to be the five basic fundamentals of Christianity. They are all mentioned in the Apostles Creed. Many denominations claim that those hold those five to be the truth are the only Christians. Personally I disagree.
Those the Baptize in the name of Jesus only are said to be non Christian. Yet the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is another name for God. AS IS EACH ONE OF THOSE THREE. The Father is God, The Son is God, The Holy Spirit is God, Therefore we hold that Jesus the son of God is God and to call on his name we address GOD.
How about the Independent Baptist Church. They claim to believe in no creed. They do not say the Apostle's creed. Are they not Christian? Yet they are said to be strong fundamentalists. They are also quick to claim that some other denominations are not Christian. Does that make them not Christians?
Some claim that the Jesus is not God, but they believe He is the Son of God. Does that make them not Christians?
Where do we draw the line? Or should we not do so and let God do that?
Should we not be charitable As is God and Jesus?
God is Love. To be charitable is an act of Love. To Love with charity is to emulate God. Isn't that something we are supposed to do?
I think those sects, groups, churches, that teach and hold Jesus to be the Son of God who suffered, died, and rose from the dead to be the Saviour; the promised Messiah should be fairly called Christian.
Now, What do YOU PERSOALLY think about that?"
Peace and kindness, Fred

sapphire630 answered on 04/06/05:

Most of it is all man made and has nothing to do with what God wants of us.

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Choux asked on 04/04/05 - Dead Pope 24/7

I can't take it anymore!! The Funeral isn't until Friday!! I rely on cable TV for entertainment, and all this coverage of the dead Pope is a downer!!

sapphire630 answered on 04/04/05:

Isn't it strange how one news item can make you wonder if the rest of the world is doing fine----since you don't get the usual 15 + min. of local and national news.
In the winter here all you hear about is the ice and school closings...its like news just ain't happenin'

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ETWolverine asked on 04/04/05 - Living wills

Hello everyone.

The Terri Schiavo case has increased the number of people who are asking their legal counsel about living wills. As a courtesy, a number of legal websites, newspapers, etc. have printed templates of living wills that people can use as the basis for creating their own living wills. I happen to think this is a good thing, and a service that everyone should take advantage of.

However, every version of the living wills that I have seen call for doctors to STOP giving life-saving care at a certain point... whatever that point may be (incapacitation, coma, PVS, brain-death, whatever). But I have not seen a single living will form that says "In the event of my incapacitation, I wish to LIVE, and have the doctors continue to administer care until my death occurs. I do not want the plug to be pulled or care to be interrupted until my natural death occurs."

First, why is there no such form on file?

Second, how can I make such a form for myself, those being my wishes?

Elliot

sapphire630 answered on 04/04/05:

http://www.uslegalforms.com/living-will-forms.htm

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Pete_Hanysz asked on 04/04/05 - Semi Royal Wedding

Prince Charles has postponed his wedding to Camilla Parker-Bowles.

The marriage was due to take place on Friday, the same day as the Pope’s funeral.

Bearing in mind what the English royal family got up to in the 16th century, could the Vatican be finally seeking it’s gentle revenge?

sapphire630 answered on 04/04/05:

Doesn't Princess Di have the full entitlement to revenge?

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hOPE12 asked on 04/04/05 - Here is something that we should all think about:

Hello Everyone,

We live in a world that gives the most honors to those who have prestige and money or popularity. I for one mourn those who are not popular to the people and those who are thrown away as garbage after their death. I do not mourn those with neither prestige, nor honor or give worship to any man. We see people all over the world blown up and little babies starving to death, people dying of all kinds of dreadful causes, such as Aids and other horrible conditions. Yet, who is given the most notice and honor and pomp?

The world has lost the balance of what true love for all mankind really is. Jesus Christ himself did not honor any man, but was always seeker of the poor and helpless and only gave honor to the one who deserves of honor alone, his heavenly Father. I guess that is why Jesus himself said “he is no part of the world.” Neither would his followers be part of this world. John 17:16 "They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world." The world balance on what is important has lost it’s balance. The rich and famous and the powerful receive much honor and thousands of dollars are spent in showing honor and tribute to them, while the poor baby or child in this world are thrown in a ditch at the side of the road in some countries. How sad, when one who looses their life is given honor and dignity and respect at much coast, while another is thrown away as if their life had no meaning. just as we would throw awaya garbage. Is there something wrong with this? I am sure having trouble understanding it.

In my religion, we do not regard funerals as sacraments, but we do recognize that these sad events offer occasion for giving consolation. By attending them, we know we can give evidence of the love and respect that we had for our fellow Christian. We do not pray for the dead for they are dead, but we do give them a proper burial and we pray for the family left behind. We do not pray for the dead because we believe that their future is now in God's hands and there is nothing more we can do for them. We can though help the family memebers of the one who died to deal with their loved ones death. And we may be moved to think more seriously on the meaning of life, about how we each should be using our own life before God. And how that all human beings are precious in God’s sight. We therefore would keep our balance when mourning. The rich, the powerful, those with prestige and the poor are all equally precious to God. we do not show one more respect then the another and we feel that all persons should be thought of as a life that we love being gone until God sees fit to resurrect them. One persons life is not more important then another. Oh, if only we could have God’s thoughts on the matter of all life being precious to him. If our accomplishements are greater then anothers, we should not receive any greater respect or be honored. For what we do is what we should do, for without the strength of God, we can do nothing at all.

The apostle Paul wrote that “a large door that leads to activity” had been opened to him. 1 Corinthians 16:9. Our circumstances may permit us to enter a door to spiritual activity. Engaging in the ministry, for example, involves much effort and sacrifice. These full time servants are appreciated by fellow Christians for their faithful service. But the fact that they spend more time in the ministry does not make them feel superior to others Christians. Instead all Christians should cultivate the attitude encouraged by Jesus: Luke 17:7-10 :” 7 “Who of YOU is there that has a slave plowing or minding the flock who will say to him when he gets in from the field, ‘Come here at once and recline at the table’? 8 Rather, will he not say to him, ‘Get something ready for me to have my evening meal, and put on an apron and minister to me until I am through eating and drinking, and afterward you can eat and drink’? 9 He will not feel gratitude to the slave because he did the things assigned, will he? 10 So YOU, also, when YOU have done all the things assigned to YOU, say, ‘We are good-for-nothing slaves. What we have done is what we ought to have done.’” Yes, those with special privileges of spiritual activity, should be grateful and those around them should not pay tribute and great honor to them , for what a slave of God does in that ministry is what they should have done. In our religion we treat all those that die equally for they will all stand before their maker and in what better hands could they be in. "We also use whatever means we have, to help those who are still alive and in need of help. The dead are just that dead and we can not do a single thing for them. Eccl. 9: 5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward; but the memory of them is lost. 6 Their love and their hate and their envy have already perished, and they have no more for ever any share in all that is done under the sun." This shows that there life on earth is over and there is nothing we can do for them they are in God's memory or hands.


Take care,
Hope12